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Help! I want to MO w/o P...OK to do?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Andre123, Apr 16, 2017.

  1. Andre123

    Andre123 Fapstronaut

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    I've chosen the Standard Reboot method. I've been 2 days without PMO. Now I want to masturbate without porn. I wonder if this is OK or am I just deluding myself again. My goal is to be able to masturbate with gay partner...that is our sex life. But, I cannot get erections now. Would it be OK to masturbate thinking of him? I cannot be with him now. All alone. I think this is how I set myself up for a relapse. How do I stop this...it is getting worse over two days?
     
  2. J247

    J247 Fapstronaut

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    Still not an okay thing to do. 2 days is just the beginning. Your urges go away in about two weeks.

    The only way an O is okay is a wet dream or if the other person is the one is doing the sex or M for you.
     
  3. Andre123

    Andre123 Fapstronaut

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    Thanks. I need an Accountability Partner but no one responded. How do you get one? I need to dialogue about this...it takes my mind off it. I want to have a healthy sex life but the pressure builds every day and it is hard to resist.
     
  4. J247

    J247 Fapstronaut

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    I dunno. Get one by posting in that forum section or taking initiative. Or just keep posting in this section with all your concerns. It becomes increasingly difficult the first couple of weeks then you wake up one morning and it's gone. Just gotta meditate, pray, take cold showers, go for walks, etc. anything to get your mind off it.
     
  5. if this is your goal, why do you want to do it alone? you can not do both! it simply does not work that way.
     
  6. IamRick

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    I remember reading about the term "Healthy Masturbation" (Mo without P). Some no-fapers say you can still recover doing just MO but its slower. Personally i'd abstain completely, its too easy to slip back into old habits, specially on a new streak.
     
  7. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    Certainly the porn is a superstimulant, which is a major problem. Beyond that though, why are you giving up porn? If objectifying people as sexual objects enters into your list of reasons, then I would ask what would you think about when you masturbate? If it comes to thinking about people, then perhaps that would be categorized under sexual objectification.

    I agree with others who state that no O will help you get over it faster. It's probably going to be a rougher journey, but it should balance out sooner. If that's not an option, then having sexual interaction with a partner would be better.
     
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  8. Andre123

    Andre123 Fapstronaut

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    I'm trying to not PMO right this minute. I am alone (not a good thing) sitting at my computer (also not a good thing) in the daytime when I have downtime (not a good thing) and rationalizing that masturbating without porn is OK. The need is great inside. I have never coped with these urges before. Is it cool to actually talk to someone on the phone? Can email exchanges help and is that OK? Right now I'm so horny that I don't need porn to orgasm...that's the problem running through my head right now. Partner is not available for a few days. I'm trying to surf this to the end without doing it. But, willpower can only hold out so long. I never realized I was so addicted until I stopped the porn. I've been doing it for years and now, as an old man, I can hardly manage my thinking around this. It is painful and embarrassing really. Who can I talk with?
     
  9. luskos

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    First few days are actually the best.The urge is non-existent, but you realize that after first week.It's the habit that is dangerous.Instead of focusing on days and counting them just acknowledge that they had passed, that's what helped me.

    You need to change some things around you so everything is working in your favor.You can start meditation.Get a phone and put a timer for 5 min get comfortable, focus on breathing, if thought come, thought goes.If you get comfortable with 5 min make them 6-7 or more.Personally i think for beginner 20 is plenty.Constantly remind yourself to check if you got more tense, and relax whatever part of the body got stiff.This exercise will help you to catch the thoughts about doing PMO, observe them, acknowledge them, let them go and switch focus to what you were doing.

    Fill your time with something to do, that distract your mind and be cautions of schedule holes when you got free alone time.

    Start doing some physical activity so your body receive dopamine hits from some other activity than PMO.

    Talk with a friend, relative or a professional about this.You lose nothing and there is almost 100% certainty that he is also doing PMO.These days everyone is doing it.Once i caught my dad with pants down.You may feel better from the fact that someone was listening you or from the fact that you are already one step ahead of someone that can't even comprehend what you are doing.

    What a drowning man thinks while drowning is probably how much can hold his breath, but you are not drowning and you can actually breath under water.Stay strong!
     
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  10. It is not recommended to have sex during reboot (at least, not at the beginning). :oops: It just causes more dopamine hits and thereby slows down the recovery from overstimulation from dopamine. I suggest no PMO (i.e. no sex for at least 3 months).
     

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