ITS OK TO MASTURBATE GUYS! ITS NORMAL!

All I feel is that children going through puberty may masturbate and its ok for them. (Learning about sexuality)

Others are immature to think Masturbation as normal.

 

What gives you the authority to tell people when and where they should discuss certain topics? If you don't happen to like a particular topic of discussion, don't get involved in it. Don't reply and move on to something you'd actually like to talk about.

 

I didn't have a computer in my own room when I grew up, so I didn't have free access to erotica/porn until I was 19.

I didn't try masturbating until I was 14, I would get boners but I would just let them be there. But then I had to go through postmodernist, "sex-positive", perverted sex education here in Sweden. Where they said that it's normal to masturbate and that everybody does it. My friends said I was weird for not masturbating.

So at 14, I tried masturbation. And pretty soon, I was hooked. I would masturbate to messed up fantasies. When I had seen something on TV that aroused me, I would lock myself into the bathroom and masturbate. I almost always masturbated in the bathroom, where there was the lowest risk of discovery, sometimes I would hear parents/siblings outside in the house, but I would continue anyway because once I started I couldn't stop until I was done. So messed up.

Masturbating made me more and more perverted. My sexual fantasies became increasingly perverted. As soon as I got aroused, I got an urge to masturbate, and I didn't think I could resist it. I would sometimes masturbate in bathrooms at school or in other public bathrooms, on trains for example. Once, at 18, I saw a girl sunbathing in a bikini outside of a window, I was alone and masturbated while peeking at her through the window. Once, also at 18, I found a hair from a girl I knew, and I put it in my mouth. I had zero self control.

Not developing my self-control also hurt my grades and performance at school. I stopped engaging in any athletic activities, I would spend my free time watching TV, playing computer games and masturbating to messed up fantasies. I also smoked.

In my opinion, masturbation is damaging in of itself!

I wish I had never started doing it, it never even occurred to me until I was brainwashed by postmodernist sex education and friends.

Some say you should masturbate to "find your sexuality", well what I found should've never been discovered! But I don't think it was found, it was created. By masturbation.

Is masturbating to fantasies really that different from masturbating to porn?

Maybe masturbating without fantasies every once in a while is harmless, I don't know. But that will very easily slip into destructiveness, chaos.

It's better to not masturbate at all. There is no need to masturbate! Buddhist monks go decades or their whole lives without masturbation nor sex. There are NoFappers who've gone hundreds of days on hard mode. I've once gone 142 days on hard mode, my prostate didn't explode. Postmodernist media tell us lies to try to trap us into fapping, because that makes us weak so they can control us. But you don't need masturbation! Do something productive instead.

However, this is all my opinion. My belief. My advice. You can go out there and do whatever the fuck you wanna do!

 

Can't it just be don't judge others , live and let live, but all the while living by your beliefs and morals. Why these binary statements that separate, I'm sure there are a lot of grey areas in any argument

 

Are you trying to convince yourself that masturbation is normal ? I don't think masturbation Is good for anyone cause once you masturbate then you will have the feeling to masturbate again..If masturbation was normal then I wanted you to know that nofap community would never exist . I think you are trying to convince yourself that masturbation is normal and you don't want to change that belief .everything have two aspects .
Masturbation do have two aspects . You said only about positive side why don't you talk about negative side??
Have you never experienced the guilt feeling after masturbation ?

 

I like your posting. Just wanted to remark that usually I didn't felt guilty after masturbation, often felt very fine. In this community obviously are a lot of religious people and they consider masturbation as a sin. I don't like that. I prefer the idea, that each person should make his or her own choice. Some people recognize their habit as addiction, others don't. It's up to me how to handle it. The reboot-programs surely might help those who are severely addicted to porn and/or masturbation. Those who make a commitment for NO-PMO will feel guilty after masturbation. This is a special situation and we have to consider that millions of men are not porn-addicted.

 

I agree with you . But I would like to share you my experience. Before that I would like to ask you a question ?
Are you sure about the fact that millions are not addicted to porn ? Cause I don't think because addiction is not something that people like to talk and they always try to do everything to ensure that no one knows that they are an addict. For example : consider me - I didn't use my real name or profile pic on nofap because I don't want to know my society or my friends to know that I am an addict. So do you and everyone else in this forum .Also for your information millions may not be addicted to porn but they are either addicted to drugs , smoke or anything else. No offence

 

Yes, unfortunately they do. I am addicted to coffee.
Fact is that I am not porn-addicted, I don't like this stuff at all and never did. I registered in this website because I was longing for sexual abstinence, specially abstinence from masturbation . And in those 23 days I very well could recognize how much I already have been addicted to M.
Will I practise M again? Yes, I am sure I will. And I will not feel guilty about it. And my longing for having sex with a real partner has increased dramatically. All feels well.

 

I don't think everyone have same life like you . And what I wrote is my personal opinion . Masturbation had harmful affect on my life so I hate it and I am a Christian but I never lived a Christian life.
Since I struggled with masturbation I just don't want others to suffer with it. Many destroyed their life on porn addiction.i just wanted to share my views

 

General Christian commentary, not directly in response to anyone, but it seems like it could help the conversation...


Unfortunately, a lot of the time, Christians don't get the most important parts of Christianity, just like Christ's disciples didn't...continually. One part of the Good News is that the disciples were dumb, just like we can be, but they *were* faithful, which *all* Christians can be. Anyway, a lot of the discussion in this thread has to do with concepts and morality that we have not received from the Spirit--which is Love--but from the Church across the centuries, which because it is made up of a lot of dumb people trying their best to be faithful, has got some important stuff wrong, just like the disciples did.

M(asturbation) is not a subject of the Gospels, whereas M(oney) is, for example. So I think that if one identifies as Christian, and is drawing strength from the faith in one's recovery, it would be helpful if one can focus on the biggest words in the Gospel, like Forgiveness and Mercy. The only real discussion of sex as a moral topic in the Gospels is about sex as it relates to fidelity to one's spouse. (Oh, yeah, and that part of the epistles when Saint Paul seems to have had a really bad day and went off on one of his congregations about not participating in the pagan rituals of the day and said lots of stuff about fornication, which is difficult to interpret this far removed from his social context.)

We do not help ouselves break addiction by berating ourselves, and Christianity should never be the club with which we do it. Guilt and shame can only be helpful to get us turned around and moving in the right direction. Once we can get on the path, it's time to be gentle, but firm, with ourselves, and be merciful and forgiving of ourselves for having got entrapped in a cycle. Only then can we face up to the real damage we've caused ourselves and others.

If you are taking strength from your faith in Jesus, focus on the loving and forgiving arms that are always open to us.

 

You're right. Normally I wouldn't have the right. But, I am a king. I was merely giving a suggestion. I don't want to play semantics or anything though.

It's just, I normally have an innocent view of everything. For example, I don't like to swear, or fornicate, or hear the harsh reality of things, ect. I was raised in a very conservative household, you see. I wouldn't talk about sex in public unless I really knew a person (and no one else could hear us), or discuss my finances with anyone outside my immediate family. Those are examples. I believe they're call "savoir faire". I wasn't trying to offend you in anyway, and apologize for what I did. I understand stand this is a forum with masturbation and porn as it's "thesis" but, I thought there was a consensus, and people discussed ways to avoid and not berate eachother about it. I just thought was was an inciting and polarizing topic.

 

First let me say that I am not condemning anyone and I myself have, in addition to PM, have had sex outside of marriage.

If marriage is just a piece of paper from a courthouse then no, it wouldn't make any difference. But marriage is supposed to be a lifelong commitment. I know I'm not alone here in suffering because my parents chose not to honor their lifelong commitment. I'm pretty sure many of us might have gotten into PM due at least in part to the wounds of broken homes.

Why is marriage a lifelong commitment? Because marriage involves sex and sex results in babies. Children deserve to have a mother and father who raise them together. It is that simple.

When you have sex outside marriage this always means you are not committed to the other person. It isn't that saying marriage vows means you are, but if you won't even do that you certainly aren't. In the past at least when people had sex outside marriage they wanted especially to make sure no children resulted. In a sense this is good because it would be bad and unfair for the children. But when you really think about it I think there are lots of problems with this.

Usually when having sex outside marriage you are constantly attempting to thwart nature. You are using some form of birth control. When using a condom you are being intimate with a woman but putting a piece of latex between you and her. This is to prevent children but also often because you worried about disease. Think about that. To me the image is as bad as the image of me staring at a computer screen with the curtains drawn to engage in PM. Obviously both feel good. But in both you are putting up a wall of sorts.

I think as part of addressing our particular issues it is worth considering what sex is for. All of us here, because we are here, think whatever we were doing was not good for us. Most of us have experienced society telling us M is OK. We've also had society tell us casual sex is OK. But maybe society is wrong about both. Maybe our greatest happiness is in only using our sexuality within marriage. In both M and casual sex we are holding back our sexual function. With M we are wasting our seed. With casual sex we are thwarting the natural end of the sex act with condoms or other birth control. In both cases we aren't freely and completely sharing ourselves. We are holding back. If the opposite of addiction is connection or intimacy then the most intimate or connected we are with our sexuality is in the complete, unrestrained self giving of ourselves in the marital act.

Again, I don't mean to condemn anyone and I stand as guilty as anyone. But I wanted to share my thoughts because as I've reflexed on it I do believe our greatest happiness is not found in M or sex outside of marriage.

 

I do not agree with you , although i respect your opinion , but i think that there is no point to waste [ sperms + alkaline fluid + fructose sugar + energy + time ] only to enjoy it or to relief stress , there are a lot of healthy things to do instead of it.

 

Hate to Putin you in your place, but NoFap is not anti-masturbation.

Taken from the About NoFap section:



I personally find masturbation to be a completely useless activity and one which just makes men effeminate, but, that's just like my opinion man.

 

Bullshit post, with absolutely no respect to the users of this forum. Are you the kind of person that brings a 12-pack of beer to an AA meeting, just to make a point that one or two beers won't hurt an alcoholic? :lol:

 

O'Doul's

 

I must say, nice pun, though i've heard better. I'm not trying to be sanctimonious or anything. I just never took the time to read the "guidelines" of the site. I just made a conjecture, I guess.

You're right about the effeminate part though. I personally am recovering for this. You seem pretty insightful. You could be a threat to me. The KGB is watching you.

 

What's with these horse heads? Are y'all part of a cult of something?

 

OMG you guys need to work on making a life for yourself instead of all this. Think this forum has out lived its usefulness for me.

 

Agreed. I felt that way at first when I first made my account. But, I like to hear other peoples' personal triumphs. I loved good news.