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Sane Masturbation : The Guide

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Paul's New start, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. Paul's New start

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    At about 30 without MO and 60 without PMO, i did masturbate. :emoji_flushed:

    And i feel great about it ! :emoji_grin:

    You must wondering, ''Damn this guy just relapsed, why he's feeling good about it''

    That's the point of this topic, let my explain myself :emoji_hand_splayed:

    First, when a urge shows up, i feel terrible. :emoji_confounded:

    Like i want so bad something that i hate.:emoji_weary:

    This time, it was different, it was natural, it was awesome. :emoji_relieved:

    When i was doing PMO, i was feeling bad before, fakely good meanwhile, and depressed after.

    There, i was feel good before, meanwhile, and after. :emoji_blush:

    L've feel like it was something that i want, and not something that i have to do. Like Porn.

    And it also was more pleasant than ALL my porn orgasms.

    Let's by honest, you don't really get pleased when you're doing it with porn.

    What l've feel while masturbating was awesome, a feeling i had truly forget about.

    I keep doing it, somedays twice, somedays not, and still feel that good.

    I think masturbation is natural, even animals are doing it. :emoji_cat2::emoji_dog2::emoji_fox::emoji_leopard:

    I think the point of the reboot process is, in my opinion, not to avoid masturbation, but to learn back how to do it right. :emoji_hugging::emoji_raised_hands:

    I think there's a few rules to respect :

    -Not support at all, no fantasize, no pics, and of course no porn :emoji_eye:

    -Don't think to anything but yours feelings, you own pleasure. :emoji_hand_splayed:

    -Make it last, of course don't edging, but don't rush for the orgasm, appreciate the moment. :emoji_stopwatch:

    In my opinion, Masturbation is a sane habit, it's not the ennemy. :emoji_v:
    But coming at some point, if you're starting do it with some supports, which mean doing it wrong, then you're on the slippery slow to PMO Addiction. :emoji_eye:

    Of course, if when yours hands go down, porn instantly came to you mind, don't do it.
    You're not ready yet.

    Don't ever forget that masturbation while thinking about porn is a RELAPSE.

    And masturbation about any fantasize still a slippery slow.

    The very first step is to dissociate Masturbation of porn.

    Let me know what you're think in the comments.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2017
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  2. I like your comment. Much better always reading masturbating is a sin and people feel guilty.
    First I hope to complete my 30 days NO-PMO and then I will make the next choice. Maybe I want to avoid M another 30 days - because it feels so good. In my opinion there is a fine line between enjoying the feelings of your body just because you like to do it and doing M because you are addicted to the habit. Porn was never my subject, never liked it and never was addicted to it. Life without PMO is a challenge for me and I realize there still is some addiction. NO-PMO is related to true happiness and so I have to find out where my place is.
     
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  3. Paul's New start

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    Thanks !!

    You're right, the very very first step is to find out what you're addicted to.

    In my opinion, this make me realise that my issue was porn, and that masturbate in the right way is good to me.

    But it's different for everyone..
     
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  4. Massimo

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    What about fantasizing about real girls or ex gf?
     
  5. Paul's New start

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    As i said earlier, fantasize about anything while masturbating means that you wont be able to focus on what you feels.

    Masturbation isn't about any girls or any fantasize, it's all about you.
     
  6. I've always found this to be fascinating that some people are so bothered by the word "sin" that you have to go out of our way to change the word so you feel better about what you're doing. I mean does the word sin really have power to make you feel guilty or is it because you already feel guilty and the word sin just makes that guilt feel all the more real?
     
  7. Paul's New start

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    That's funny.

    When i did masturbate for the first time after 30 days, i was seeking in my head, after doing it and before, for that guilty feeling.
    I mean, i read so much bad things about masturbation here....
    I was looking for that guilty feelings i used to feel while doing it with porn, but it doesn't shows up.
    Only pleasure and good feelings did.

    Which clearly means Masturbation is not bad, it's even good and natural as long as you're doing it right.

    Porn is the only ennemy here.
     
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  8. So basically you're saying if it feels good then it's good for you, right?

    Why is porn the enemy? If I don't feel any guilt for watching porn then I don't see how it's the enemy.
     
  9. Paul's New start

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    Yeah, it's absolutely good for me :emoji_grinning:

    But not for everyone, especially for thoses who forgot how to do it without supports..

    Oh come on we all know here why Porn is the Ennemy, there is dozens of thread about here :emoji_joy:

    Depressed, guilty, shitty, awful, worthless. All of this without a single drop of pleasure.

    i don't know about you but that all porn used to make me feel, and that's why, for me, it's the ennemy.
     
  10. Paul's New start

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    Sorry, i have to apologize, i don't properly answering.

    You said you don't feel any guilt about watching porn,

    And i have to said, as long as you're feel good about it,
    as long as you're doing it because you want to, it's not an ennemy. :emoji_confused:

    But i can't picture how such a bad thing like porn could be a good habit.:emoji_anguished:
     
  11. There is only one sin I know in my life: wasting time.
    If you like to consider masturbation as a sin and if you like to feel guilty after masturbating - it's your choice.
    Paul's lines were refreshing to me. I don't feel religious, but if there is a "God" I know he (or she) is loving me and will not judge me. The idea that God is high up in the sky and watching me by telescope, very interested if am faping or not, I consider as ridiculous. It's my responsibiity to set the right priorities in my life. And that is the reason I joined this community.
     
  12. So you believe youre insignificant to God if a God does exist, correct? Do you believe this because of your size in comparison to the rest of the universe? Why would God not be interested in what you do?
     
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  13. IggyIshness

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    So you do it because animals do it too? Your a human not an animal. Dont be so low and animalistic.. Animals shouldnt be on nofap, On nofap we are higher class and want to improve our lives.
     
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  14. Animals also eat their young.
     
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  15. Paul's New start

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    Lol i already say why I'm doing it.

    But you're a masturbation hater I got it.

    Maybe it's not good to you but it's good to me.

    Maybe you need to stop masturbating for improve you life, but I don't.

    I know what i feel.
     
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  16. IggyIshness

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    Thats just a little thing called denial that your doing. After i masturbate it makes be feel like shit, I stopped and i can remember a 5 digit number from a few days ago F4450B (6letter/digit) And when i masturbated i couldn't remember a 2 digit number from 30 minutes ago.
    Your bring spreading bullshit on a community that knows very well masturbation is shit and makes you feel like shit and only brings negative effects to your life and KNOW that your tricking your body that your having sex, which is unnatural. Im leaving this thread because it only brings lies to myself to which brings me closer to MO.
     
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  17. Well, why don't you choose another person to talk about "God" and "sin" and "guilt"? I am not interested in such a discussion. That's why I liked Paul's comment. In my perspective there are 2 Gods. The one that people created in their imagination (of course a man, never a woman) and the one who resides in my heart. To avoid any other questions and phrases I click the ignore button. Your "God" will be proud of you, I am sure.
     
  18. Ah, the old "my infallible heart" defense. I find it interesting that people have an issue with religions that claim infallibility but then attribute infallibility to their own "heart". It just goes to show we all follow dogmas whether they be revealed or invented. We are fascinating creatures. I don't claim to know if my God/our God is proud of me or not, but you play a good victim.
     
  19. I like this. To each his own. I'm still not sure whether or not I want to completely eliminate P and M out of my life. Already, after 15 days the urges are disappearing.
     
  20. Paul's New start

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    You're starting to act like you know better than I how I feel. Which is pathetic.

    You have to accept that is just not the same for everyone
     
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