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Could Lack of Male Leadership be an Underlying Cause for Porn Addiction

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Eddie Fapstronaut, May 18, 2017.

did you grow up without a father?

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  2. No

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  1. Eddie Fapstronaut

    Eddie Fapstronaut Fapstronaut

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    Hi y'all! So I have a theory that goes like this: One of the big reasons why PMO is affecting so many boys and men is due to a lack of male leadership. That is to say, fathers were absent in the lives of boys/young men or fathers were abusive and had a caveman definition of what it means to be a man and instilled that machismo mentality into their kids. So, I'd like to take a survey to see what y'all share in common. Later I'll post a survey asking who grew up in a house with an abusive/violent father. Many, like myself probably lived both senerios.
     
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  2. The real question about fathers is not about presence. It's about connection. Mine was there. Just emotionally absent.
    JQ
     
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  3. Eddie Fapstronaut

    Eddie Fapstronaut Fapstronaut

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    JQ you bring up a great point there. When fathers adopt a machismo or He Man way of life they neglect their feminine side and issues arise. I think that is why it is important for men to balance both masculine and feminine qualities within them because then everyone benefits. Their family, friends, and they themselves. Thank you for giving me a different perspective. This has made me think about embracing both sides of me. Everything is a balance. Thank you JQ
     
  4. Journey_

    Journey_ Fapstronaut

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    Have you tried to think in the opposite way?
    I mean, could PMO affect men's lives so bad, that they become less manly?
    I guess this one is true for a lot of men here in this forum.

    But... I can also understand that growing without a father might cause this.

    Btw, there are many people in history who were born without fathers and created an awesome life for them and their family, with a real manly personality.

    You could check one ex-Goldman Sachs trader called "Anton Kreil" on YT.
    He said he grew up fatherless, and look at how dominant and "alpha" he is.

    At the end... Testosterone, the male hormone, is released in order to survive.

    He had to survive without a father. Maybe taking care of his family.

    Look at Conor McGregor.
    He's very dominant too.
    He had to face problems in his life (he was under social assistance for a long time before becoming famous and rich), and the body started helping him by producing the male boost.

    It might be that a life with the presence of a father makes you a man eventually.

    But I also think that nowadays we live in an age of relax and comfort, so the testosterone boost against wild animals and life problems is not needed much.

    And the society, unfortunately, becomes less masculine.
     
  5. Ibnmorales

    Ibnmorales Fapstronaut

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    interesting topic , i would say it plays a part some guys are raised without a farther but theirs usually a male figure their to push them or show them a positive manly way to purse . i was raised with my father but i honestly wish i never met the fagget piece of shit . kind of a disappointment that my farther is the way he is ( a little fucking bitch ) so as for me i kind of have to learn on my own year after year how to be a man and what role to take in certain relationships and situations.
     
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  6. My father was and is a nice man. Everyone agrees about that. He really is a nice man. But he is so devoid of emotion that he could never really connect with me.
    JQ
     
  7. fapstronaut_12

    fapstronaut_12 Fapstronaut

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    I know how it feels but you can take the lead and be positive....you can even be a father to your dad and help him rather in treating his issues...rise to the occasion...
    I say this because having lost my father I wish I had taken the lead...
     
  8. fapstronaut_12

    fapstronaut_12 Fapstronaut

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    I agree partially with both Eddie and journey...
    Lack of male leadership is correct... it's my experience too..but isn't the fact that fapping being a sensitive and an issue which we would shy away from discussing with others also a reason...it's kind of a sickness that kill us since we don't even discuss it and shy away...
    Agree with journey in that it's kind of the cause that makes us feel so..its like a black hole that once pulls us makes us weaker and weaker..
     
  9. stygian

    stygian Fapstronaut

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    Read the book no more mr. nice guy. He has this theory that you mention of the father being absent or not involved.
    I personally think that it is not an absent father that is the issue, but if there is an absence of the qualities of a father or a mother, then it will negatively impact the child.
     
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  10. Blackenglish2017

    Blackenglish2017 Fapstronaut

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    I had no father growing up due to him running off. I wish I had a father that could of taught me the ways of a man and how to treat a woman.
     
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  11. Strength And Light

    Strength And Light Fapstronaut

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    My dad killed himself when I was 2. I had problems with the stigma and grief about this for decades, which led to depression, which led to various addictions. Thankfully a few years ago I started therapy and with that, meditation and reboot I've got my grief processed and depression/anxiety resolved. With that baggage cleared, getting rid of PMO has become so much easier. At this point it's just breaking old habits rather than breaking active addiction.
     

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