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No PIED, am I considered addicted or not?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Rookie_Wookie, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. Rookie_Wookie

    Rookie_Wookie Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys,

    I've been reading more and more about porn addiction. It's basically an equivalent of a drug/alcohol addiction and I agree (dopamine reward circle).

    I think I am in the "lucky" group that know they use a lot of porn, but has not reached PIED. So I am wondering if I am fully addicted?

    I feel like porn does not bring me anything valuable more than instant pleasure. And in all those years of porn usage, I have never been checking anything really hardcore, nor have I lost my libido. I think I have developed or maintained a kind of "voyeurism" reflex though. Which is not really good either.

    In about 1.5 months me and my girlfriend will split-up/take a break with my girlfriend because we will be studying in cities far apart and we feel that if we split up in good terms (rather than braking up few months later because of the distance) it would increase our chances to get back together in the future.

    ANYWAYS, I know that in September, I won't have access to regular sex like I have right now. I am afraid of that moment, and I am expecting to replace the lack of sex with PMO. I use to think it would be OK for me to PMO then because I would be single.

    Some part of me is still liking PMOing and that part of me is "excited" to have a free-pass of PMO in September.

    What should I do? I don't know if I'm ready to quit porn forever. I thought at some point people can reach some "balanced" level where they control their porn usage (moderation). Is that really possible?

    Just like I enjoy a drink in social events, I am not an alcoholic. I am not sure if I should aim to quit porn forever or just to reach some kind of moderation state (i.e once a week or every 2 weeks or so..)

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks a lot!!
     
  2. Hey. I feel the same way but I don't have a girlfriend or anyway to release my sexual urges. You have to trick yourself to think that PMO is bad(which it is). Think of how much better sex would be if you went a month without fapping. Think of the positives of the outcome rather than focusing on the negatives. Don't think about porn. If you happen to and get urge listen to some music, do some push ups, anything really. Just don't fap to porn or fap in general.

    yes I know it's easier said than done but you can do it.

    God bless

    Godschild
     
  3. Rookie_Wookie

    Rookie_Wookie Fapstronaut

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    Well said Godschild. The benefits totally outweigh the first inconveniences.

    I hope your challenge is going well!!

    Take care!
     
  4. Hotshot

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    Hey man. After 14 years [I'm 23] I realized I have a problem with PMO just 2 days ago. I didn't even know it was a "thing" I just new I felt bad after and I didn't really know what. I stumbled upon NoFap accidently while looking for porn on Reddit. I too have not had symptoms that a lot of people here have had. My libido has always been great. My sensation [although it could have slowly numbed over the course of years of fapping] seems to be great. I will say that after not fapping for nearly 3 days, having sex today did seem more satisfying than usual.

    I would say if you are asking if you are addicted to porn, you probably are. You're just searching for confirmation. A good indicator is maybe doing that 30 day challenge. If you can't make it 30 days without PMO then I would say that you are indeed addicted. Just my opinion though, all the best. Good luck!
     
  5. 011214

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    It can be tempting to consider the argument that porn in moderation could be okay, but this gets pretty tricky. Once you begin to unfold the effects that porn has had on your life, and once you acknowledge the reasons you have turned to porn in the past, you begin to understand that it is unhealthy on every level. Even if you yourself feel that you can experience it in a healthy way, there's no way of justifying the incredible amounts of damage that it is doing to women in direct and indirect ways. Maybe you haven't experienced the potential physical effects of porn use, but that may come down the line. And maybe you are going to be newly single in September, but I don't think you want that forever. Porn is a lie. When you begin to believe the lie you lose your grip on reality. The idea of a real relationship with a real woman becomes secondary to getting off in front of a screen. That's messed up.

    I've been off of porn now for over six months after using it for over 14 years. There is no way I will return to the lie. There is no healthy moderation because porn isn't true. There is healthy moderation when it comes to sex, but there's nothing healthy about lying to yourself.

    I applaud you for your decision to quit, and I understand that your anticipation of being single in September must be taunting you with all kinds of thoughts. The reality is, your life is yours. You are quitting porn because you know that you were made for real love. That doesn't end in September. Remember that even if your current partner is not the one you will spend the rest of your life with you can invest now in the relationship you will have in the future. Offer her a man that is realigned and ready for real love. Offer her your truest self. She deserves it and so do you.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2014
  6. Shakti

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    PIED is just one of many symptoms of PMO addiction.

    PMO affects us physiologically and psychologically, even if we don't notice it sometimes.

    I can already tell that PMO affected your relationship with girlfriend. The way you're easily willing to "temporarily break up" (? Is that even a thing?) with her says that you feel comfortable with being self-sufficient thanks to PMO. Too comfortable.


    I can't tell you if your current GF is good or bad or how to deal with distant relationship (even though I firmly believe that true love doesn't know limits, even geographical ones). But I can tell you that quitting PMO for good will make you a better person. It makes you more open to other people and trust me - they notice it and appreciate it, even though they don't know the source of your change.


    Best of luck
     
  7. manolo578

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    You just have to keep strong man. What I did for two months was abstain from porn, but I kept masturbating. Not sure if this helped much because I had a spell for about a week where I masturbated like crazy, but I did noticed I lasted longer. If it's easier for you to start off like that, then do it for a month, then cut out the masturbation, which is what I did. It's all about how you feel like approaching it. Btw the reason I just cut out porn for 2 months was because I didn't know about NoFap, which now I do.
     
  8. Rookie_Wookie

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    Hey guys! Thanks a lot for all the interesting replies. I was pretty busy in the last days so I didn't had the time to read them all.

    I think that porn is indeed damaging on some subconscious level (voyeurism and stuff, I automatically spot women's "features" which I know might be a biological reflex, but it's not healthy to project myself having sex with every potential mates).

    My GF indeed deserves my best "self". She's incredible and I love her very much. That will keep me motivated in the future. I don't know how it will turn out in September, but it's not right to see the potential break-up in a "good" way because I could PMO again.

    I know that/and shall tell myself again that: human relationships > PMO. ALWAYS.

    Almost 25% of my 30-day challenge done. I hope that by the end of August I won't want to PMO again. Let's keep it rolling.

    Thanks again for all the supportive replies. I have found a lot of truth in them :)
     
  9. Trey

    Trey Fapstronaut

    I can imagine this scenario man, though I'm only 15.

    You have to set your mind to a mindset where you know Porn isn't the right choice, (as of course, it isn't). If you have a girlfriend you respect, love, and care for deeply, you will know waiting a full month without PMO'ing and waiting for her instead will feel great. You abstained yourself for a full month!

    if you can go a month, I'm sure you can do even better :) I wish you the best of luck wookie, and take care!
     

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