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My death grip possibly cured after 6 months. Thank you nofap!

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by troyan, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. troyan

    troyan Fapstronaut

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    I thought this achievement deserved it´s own thread.

    About half a year ago I had a really bad case of death grip. I could masturbate 1-2 hours using death grip, my penis was so desensitized. I am circumcised, so when death gripping, the skin did not move that much, so I was mostly death gripping the glans. Had almost no sensation left.

    I first did 90 day challenge, which helped a lot, but in the following 3 months, I also started slowly and very lightly stimulating the glans. Also I stretched my skin a lot (foreskin restoration), so I was covered 24/7.

    Today I can stimulate only frenulum area or inner foreskin or very lightly just with finger tips the glans. And I can cum in 2-3 minutes. Once I came using only one finger, by slowly stimulating the penis and not speeding up to get to orgasm. Or two times just when I was stretching my foreskin (no stroking). This is how sensitive it is becoming :D
    Sensitivity looks like it is recovering first on the bottom side of the glans and inner foreskin and slowly it is making it´s way up. Anyone else had the same case?

    I don´t have to mention that it was the first time that I got an erection with a girl. For the first time! Damn you porn!

    I expect at least another 6 months of improvements, but thanks to nofap for everything. This website was what gave me a good kick-start and motivation in the first place.

    Anyone else, what are your thoughts, is my death grip solved by just reading what I described? I would like to hear some feedback.
     
  2. TheFutureMe

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    That's a nice achievement indeed :) I'd say the death grip is cured for now, and will stay this way until you relapse to PMO. I strongly suggest you build up on this success to build a healthy sex life, far from the lies and expectations that P has tried to engrave into our heads ;)

    If you want my personnal account of this transformation for feedback, here it is : I too used to have terrible desensitization, and (very extreme) Delayed Ejaculation (especially when not masturbating), all due to 25 years of intense PMO. And much like what you describe, the sensations came (back?) with NoFap - and it felt like the world was slowly changing. After more than 7 months of NoFap I can safely say that it is what cured me. To get into the numbers only (godforbid I go into so much physical details), 3 to 4h masturbation or sex was usually what it took to O, unless the P stimulation was extreme (I won't go into triggers here) in all possible ways and then it only took about 1 to 2h. Now a look at a gorgeous girl or a simple sexy thought can easily bring me on the brink of physical sexual interaction. (Good thing I'm no sociopath, I might add :p ) As for M, when I want to indulge, I O in less than 5 min. With intercourse I tend to still like to make it last (old habits..) so it's closer to 30 mins when we both agree to it.

    You can thank your former self for leaning in to the challenges, and your current self for going this far. When you look back at how far you've come, what advice could you write for the new fapstronauts, currently wandering with courage but tremendous difficulty?
     
  3. pmojay

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    Wow, you guys are great!

    I knew you can be cured from desensitization. I'm suffering from that as we speak and working on getting my sensation back. First time I had sex was not enjoyable for me as I did not feel anything...
     
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  4. howdodo

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    I wish there were more treatment threads about DE and death grip like this one. I'm on day 56 of my journey to fix DE and I haven't seen the superpower levels of improvements but my issue is just fixing DE. I am already socially outgoing and exercise so my journey is different. But I'm glad to know it might take more than the 100 days! I plan to give up masturbating for good and I'm glad to know it is possible. I do have to ask though, did any skin start peeling off of you? That's what's happened with me a few times and it's very odd.
     
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  5. TheFutureMe

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    If it happened it was very light because it didn't bother me the slightest. Does it happen in very specific spots? I actually recall a few places where there was some light skin coming off and I didn't know what it was, didn't realize it could be linked to the skin of the penis readjusting for a very different day-to-day life. Makes sense though, the same happens with one's feet when hiking a lot then stopping, or when playing a string instrument and then stopping :) (Two things I do a lot of then stop then go back to).

    As for the duration of recovery from DE, I guess it all depends how strong your case is - mine was hopeless, couldn't O without heavy masturbation and stimulation, needless to say I couldn't O with no woman at all. And for me it's been like that forever (before the 100+ streaks of NoFap). How about you how's your own experience compared to that? (To try and see where your body stands now)
     
  6. howdodo

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    Only on the tip and maybe the shaft a bit? But mainly just the tip. It really confused me when I saw it haha.

    I've been Ming since 12 or so, and P a few years before that. I got accustomed to a certain way of doing it, so throughout high school until my early years in college I didn't experience very many Os with girls, and to this day still haven't from intercourse. In terms of your death grip though, I honestly would say it's fixed especially if you can get off with one finger. I can't even imagine that. I'm hoping that my response to sex is something incredible like that. I've only had one instance so far and it didn't last very long due (her issues unfortunately) but I can definitely tell my body is wanting to try again at times.

    I used to use stimulation from P a lot of the times (especially in high school) but I was dating a girl off and on for a year or so and her being new to literally everything, I never expected to get off much. But she became so good at it that I didn't even touch myself several days before hand if I knew I got to see her. So in short it's really gotten better the last year, and the past almost 60 days I would assume have only gotten better. But I haven't gotten a chance to really try it out.
     
  7. TheFutureMe

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    It's encouraging to say the least, because you've already made a clear cut difference between your time using and not using, and seen some benefits. Patience will be key as to set the new standards for the rest of your life, eventually you'll get to try your new capabilities and take away some new knowledge and sensations! To be honest the first time I O'd with a woman easily after the DE was gone, I was so anxious it still lasted about 15 mins. Which is nothing compared to the bane it was before ;) So yeah a bit of performance anxiety is to be taken into account the first several times. But you'll get there, you've done much of the hard work already, keeping up with your current habits and willpower should be fine ! All the best to you buddy
     
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  8. pmojay

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    Same here. I wish more people made threads about death grip and desensitization. But I'm going to start my journal on the subject to give insight to the people looking for a way out and hoping to regain sensitivity..
     
  9. troyan

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    Yes, I used coconut oil at first and skin on the glans started peeling after about 3 weeks to 1 month of using it. It literally was peeling of the glans, same like if I had sunburns on my shoulders or something. But after that I did not really notice increased sensitivity. I continued with coconut oil and later switched to Eucerin 10% urea (mild exfoliator) and after 3 months of using it, my glans is becoming more pink than ever and softer too. When using death grip, chances are two things happen - Skin gets more and more rough and thick (nerves are deeper down in that case) and nerves desensitize - body´s natural reaction to counteract death gripping. I believe the skin in my case got VERY rough, I´m still seeing improvements after half a year. So, the goal to beat death grip is to: 1. make the skin thin, soft, moistured again, with eucerin and coconut oil and 2. heal nerve damage (make them sensitive again to light touch). This is where acetyl-l-carnitine, all kinds of vitamin b, oils help to heal myelin sheath of meissner corpuscles - nerve endings which detect touch. You can take things both orally and topical application. I was also using man1 man oil creme. People posted mixed reviews, but I have nothing to lose. Doctor told me none of this helps and I was shocked. Well it helped in my case greatly!!!

    If anyone has any questions, please ask, I will answer anything. Well I obviously did a lot of research on my own in the last year, so I would totally be prepared to write a good article how to heal death grip syndrome, based on my experience, other articles on the internet and from medical point of view. Should I do that?
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2017
  10. pmojay

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    Definitely make an article!
     
  11. howdodo

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    @troyan dude you are my fucking hero right now. I've wanted to try stuff like that just to see and made a whole post about it and nothing. And then you come in with the most detailed answer I could've imagined. PLEASE write an article.
     
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  12. TheFutureMe

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    Yeah please do write more details, I'm sure we're only a few voices in the ocean of users that would like to get advice on what to try next :)
     
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  13. troyan

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    Just a quick update:

    As I wrote in the first post, the tip of the glans had no sensitivity at all. After doing nofap for 90 days, it did not improve. Even after that when I "tested" myself, I did not stimulate that area, because I wanted the feeling to return there the most. However about a good week ago, I stimulated the tip of the penis only a couple of times for a few minutes. You will not believe it, the feeling came back a little!! After having no feeling there at all for about half a year.

    The doctor told me something in this direction: Some people can still feel their limbs after having them amputated. And it works the other way around too - You can have certain body parts perfectly healthy and not feeling them.

    So, I started to think to really heal death grip, the idea is to stimulate the nerves very gently - that will bring the sensitivity back. I heard some people saying the same. While doing nofap here and there, will definitely lower your threshold to reach orgasm by a lot. Both together means recovering from delayed ejaculation.

    I'm going to try fleshlight method next (I bought lotus), with a condom. I don't think of this as "masturbation", but rather as "stimulation". I will post any further updates here.

    Any thanks for the feedback about writing an article. I will do it sometime! :)
     
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  14. pmojay

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    Awesome, I was also thinking about using a fleshlight as well
     
  15. Bagration1944

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    Excuse me, what is a death grip?
     
  16. TheFutureMe

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    From NoFap glossary :
    If you've been fapping long enough (and chances are you have otherwise you wouldn't be hanging around here ^^), the need for more intense stimulation has probably made things a bit hairy (no pun intended) at times, and pushed your physical and mental boundaries a bit further. Ever noticed a change in P flavors? Well the same happens with our actual grip on the penis, more masturbation more often and tighter is the way we end up doing our M. If it reaches certains thresholds, you might end up with a case of Death Grip - and then you have to heal this to recover normal sensitivity (and more than likely performance/pleasure).
     
  17. Bagration1944

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    How much time does it take to fully recover from death grip?
     
  18. TheFutureMe

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    It's anyone's guess, depending on how much you've been PMOing for, how often, how hard, for how long, then I suppose some other physical variables are to be taken into account like your age, things related to your penis itself, etc etc. To put it mildly there's no way of knowing how long it will take. But what's known is that NoFap helps recover from it - people like @troyan explain their tryouts and progress, so we can all take heed...!
     
  19. troyan

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    There is no way to tell how much time someone needs to heal from death grip. Like TheFutureMe wrote, it depends on many conditions. I heard people recover in a month, but some people recovered in 1-2 years. I myself had a very very bad case... I cannot imagine it being any worse. And I truly believe after half a year, my sensitivity is greater than it was before I started with death gripping. I got a fleshlight and I tried it a few days ago. I also had one at the time when I started death gripping, so I could compare. Before I would not feel any texture inside, I just felt it as a "whole", but now when I insert my penis I feel every single change in texture, it is such a difference!!! And to add... I was using fleshlight with a condom this time, when previously I did not use condom of course. My penis was already desensitized before because I was circumcised and my glans was very dry and rough on its own. What a difference really!!!

    I will try fleshlight with 2 condoms on, or 3. I want to become used to less stimulation. The only problem that I see here is: the fleshlight is too tight!! Diameter is about 2cm, while a vagina is about 3-4cm. Anyone knows a more wide sex toy, similar to fleshlight? I want as realistic experience as possible. People wrote that FL Lotus should be realistic, but it is too tight. I want something that has the same width and texture like a real vagina. Anyone?

    Some suggestions here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SexToys/comments/5nwq76/which_is_the_most_realistic_male_masturbator/

    Sorry if this link might not be allowed, I do not promote masturbation, just helping out with healing death grip syndrome.
     
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  20. pmojay

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    Damn 2-3 condoms?? I should definitely try that when the time comes for it.
     

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