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Edging vs just finishing it

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Master of chastity, Aug 14, 2017.

  1. Tommy_0113

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    I found I could cum really easily when watching porn, and after I came my penis sometimes was sore for a little bit. So I edged- I could enjoy masturbating for longer periods of time. And cum hard once at the end.
    However, it became ADDICTIVE. I would edge for 2-3-4 hours every other night. So unnatural, no wonder I developed chronic PIED.
     
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  2. TheLoneDanger

    TheLoneDanger Fapstronaut

    I'm 99.999% certain that edging without O caused my PIED. Pretty much all of my life with porn was spent edging rather than having orgasms. And after rebooting from all of it for 90 days, I saw my PIED slowly go away.

    So I can tell you from experience that if you're worried about what's considered relapse and what's not, you're just wrestling with semantics and not solving the problem at all.
     
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  3. MarinoBigFan1984

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    Just orgasm and clean out the pipes.
     
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  4. kattskagg

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    Was it just the edging or was it because edging allowed you to watch porn for a longer duration? Would edging without porn, for like 15 minutes and no orgasm be harmful if done maybe every other day?


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  5. TheLoneDanger

    TheLoneDanger Fapstronaut

    In my opinion, the two went hand-in-hand with each other. Not having an O made me crave more and more porn, which got more and more extreme over the sessions, and over the years. And the constant self-stimulation of edging kept the dopamine boost at its highest. I've watched countless hours of porn without edging or masturbating (in a chastity device, long story for another time) and it wasn't as intense.

    To be honest, I'm not sure if simply edging without porn would do the same amount of damage; I imagine it would do less damage. Still, you're most likely keeping your dopamine pathways filled with the same sexual content that got you into this mess in the first place. I will never be "on the edge" again without a partner, if at all.

    If you have never experienced PIED, I can tell you that it's no joke. And I don't even want to test the odds by edging to anything or even nothing ever again. Simply staying away from it all is the most effective way to reboot.
     
  6. Runtilmylegsdropoff

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    Edging is breaking the spirit of the law, and orgasm/ejaculation is breaking the letter of the law.
     
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  7. SuperFan

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    But what you trade is a much, much more fucked-up brain chemistry.

    Rebooting is 100% about getting your brain back to a state of homeostasis. If you're edging, you will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever reboot. Your dopamine reward system will remain hijacked for as long as you keep edging, even if you never have another orgasm for as long as you live. When you function at only 25% of your potential in life because your brain chemistry is totally jacked, it's not much of a consolation to say, "hey, at least I didn't come!"

    Quit edging and you'll give your chance a real shot at healing your brain.

    And therein lies the reason why it's so brutal on your brain.

    This is an unbelievable statement coming from someone who has "no masturbation" as part of his counter. If you're edging, you're masturbating ... and if you're masturbating, you're relapsing. Therefore, by the transitive property, edging = relapse.

    Now, if you're someone who considers masturbation to be a totally fine, worthwhile endeavor, that's your prerogative, but I'd take it off your counter if that's the case.
     
  8. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    Edging for 15 minutes and then stopping is like eating a single Lay's potato chip. The problem with edging is that even though you stop, you remain in a state of arousal, so you keep coming back to it over and over throughout the day. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I edge for 15 minutes, then I'm edging for 2 hours or more. I can't expect a sex addict to stop edging after 15 minutes any more than I can expect an alcoholic to stop after one drink.

    If by chance you're reading this and you can edge for 15 minutes and then stop, congrats--you probably don't need to be here.
     
  9. hoping to quit

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    Here what I did find for you :
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    You've got to understand that the NoFap reboot "challenge" is first and foremost about a rewiring of the brain. P, P-Subs, erotic fantasies, edging, they all release insane amounts of dopamine. Sometimes you can literally feel a rush to the brain when you look at porn. As a fapstronaut, you want to get away from this unnatural (and unnaturally strong) arousal through pixels on a screen or images in your head. Even though personally I wouldn't count edging as a reset (opinions on that vary greatly!), it definitely releases dopamine in your brain. Especially if you edge while watching porn. Just know that this behavior is extremely counterproductive in that it will either severely slow down your overall reboot process or –and much more likely– lead you to a full-blown relapse too fast for you to even realize. It's basically self-sabotage because it reinforces the neural pathways formed by this addiction that you actually want to help disintegrate and rewire through NoFap/No PMO.

    That being said, after all, only you can tell if what you've done makes you feel like resetting or not. Some people on here just add multiple counters. One for the days they haven't PMO'd, one for the days they haven't MO'd, one for the days they haven't O'd, one for the days they haven't looked at P or P-Subs, one for the days they haven't had any wet dreams, and another one for the days they haven't edged, etc. So maybe adding a second counter might help you, since you only edged, but not all the way to O.

    Whatever you do, just remember
    : this isn't just a challenge. This isn't about counting the days for others to see your progress, or resetting your counter when you've had a slip-up. It's not about making it to the magical number of 90 days without O'ing, just to be able to brag about it, either. This is your personal and unique healing process. It may take 90 days, it may take 9 months or even more. This whole NoFap Challenge is just a neat little idea to raise awareness of the negative effects of PMO on people's lives and to get them hooked on NoFap. It's up to you what you do with it. But it has to become a lifestyle if you truly want to heal. And if you resist the urge to look at p / edge*, not only will this journey be a lot easier for you, but results will show much faster.

    * if you think about it, that's just the addict in you trying to get its way. You have made the commitment to no PMO, so youhave know intentions of PMO'ing / MO'ing at all. How paradoxical and useless then is the act of looking at porn and edging?

    Aug 9, 2016
     
  10. kattskagg

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    I've experienced PIED indeed, the main reason I've joined here! I know I've improved in that aspect but need to continue so I won't go back watching porn ever again. Read about benefits from edging, like stamina and harder erections so thought about hearing some nofappers view on it. :)
    Even if I might not be an sex addict I'm surely an porn addict, so yes I need to be here either way. Trying to fool myself I can resist the temptation to go all the way, to watch just one clip and that's it, but that's impossible. Well, let's see after my 90day reboot how I feel about all of this. Try to avoid all forms of edging at least until then.

    Thank you guys for your answers! :D


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  11. hoping to quit

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  12. hoping to quit

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    relapsing
     
  13. Estus

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    Just don't edge and you never have to deal with this dilemma.
     
  14. hoping to quit

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    Super fan if you consider edging is relapsing you are wrong my friend. It gets you 90% closer to relapse yes but it is not relapsing. I don't wannna rationalize here but I know edging is very bad because it may cause infertility because you fucking up your balls google it and you'll see. I didn't come so I didn't relapse and I'm not edging anymore it was only in my first week of abstaining that's when I did it. I'm going strong now no porn no edging no masturbation orgasm. If I follow your advice I'll be relapsing everyday because I'll say oh shit I just edged I touched my dick. There is no such a thing that you will quit permanently in one day. I know a lot of successful guys who overcomed pmo edged in the start of their first days of abstaining and later they succeed to overcome the addiction. What you are saying is very dangerous it's spreading despairs in fapstraunt.people gonna read what you said edging is relapsing and then they gonna go full blow, binge. You gonna somehow edge there is triggers everywhere for example I went to the beach yesterday I saw two girls naked how you except me not to get horny you think I'm a rock!
     
  15. I was able to edge for hours while searching through porn sites without an orgasm many many times.Of course doing so has led me to say f__k it and blow my load. I have edged wearing a cock ring and found it made me sore for a few days . if all the porn wasnt available I think most of us would just MO when horny and not have suck deep issues.
     
  16. kattskagg

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    Yes, this is what really fucks you up. And I've tried with cock ring as well, my dick doesn't feel so good for the upcoming days.

    I think that most of the times I did PMO, I wasn't horny at first at all, just watched porn to get all excited, and became horny, and PMO'd.


    Kattskägg
     
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  17. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    Well that's a Freudian slip if I've ever seen one.
     
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  18. Sure seems like one
     
  19. Yusuff

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  20. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    If you are Manually Manipulating yourself that is M.
    If your activity leads to Orgasm, that is O
    If your goal is no M, then you keep your hands out of your pants, away from your junk. (period)
     

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