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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Ryan77, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Ryan77

    Ryan77 Fapstronaut

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    I hope this is the correct forum for this.

    I am doing pretty well with my sobriety from porn and masturbation. I have "run away" from the initial encounter with any triggers. I have confessed to my wife, and while she is still very early in the "processing" stage, she is willing to discuss my needs for recovery. She asked me something tonight that I had honestly not thought about. We have a vacation planned where one of the days was scheduled to be at a water park. She asked if that is something that I needed to do while I was so early in the "reboot" process. She didn't want me to lose my months of hard work and relapse due to what I might see at a water park. It had not crossed my mind because my issue has always been Internet/computer related. For those who have had successful reboots/recoveries, is something like this a potential problem or trigger for relapse? I am not trying to get "close to the edge" or anything like that. I was only thinking of enjoying the day with my wife and daughters on the water slides and other water park activities. But she said that I could have just thought of her and our daughters instead of looking at porn as well. She says that she still doesn't completely trust me yet and would be on high alert for any slips if I decided to go. Any advice? (either PA or SO) Thanks.
     
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  2. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    Two considerations:

    1) In the past, have you ever objectified women that you've seen in town by ogling them?

    2) Since starting this process, have you noticed an increase in ogling?

    A yes answer to either of those questions means you may have a tougher time at the waterpark. That being said, have a plan. Pay attention to triggers, have a way to communicate that you're having a trigger, and have a way to get away from them if necessary.

    From what I've seen from SOs on this site, what you don't want to do is get caught ogling. It raises their insecurity and increases distrust. Guaranteed, something is going to catch your eye while you're there, even if it's just a shiny reflective swimsuit. It is going to happen. The question is what do you do after your attention has shifted? Do you stare, or do you move on?
     
  3. Ryan77

    Ryan77 Fapstronaut

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    1. I don't believe so. It may be hard for SOs to make the connection, but I didn't stare at real women, just "fake" computer women.

    2. I haven't had too many opportunities, but in my mind, the thing that I have noticed is that I look away purposely now. For instance, at a billboard where there is a woman in a bikini, I know that it is coming up, and I just don't look over there anymore.

    Good point about communicating triggers. I would rather do that and be honest about them (what I have done since confessing). I don't want to live in a bubble. I don't want to ogle at all (caught or not). Honestly, I just want to have fun at the park with my family. I believe it won't be an issue for me. It may be that it is more of an issue for my wife and her trusting me. For now, I just told her that I would think about it. If it is something that will be an issue for her, it wouldn't be worth it to damage our relationship of course.
     
  4. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

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    Unless your pho e and computer are waterproof, a waterpark is one of the easiest places to avoid PMO.
    Going back to the hotel, and avoiding acting on accumulated urges may be more complicated. You will have to work hard to get extra feel good charges from fathering and husbanding. If you can make it about family, it could be very positive for your reboot. You could use some collaboration from your wife, so you will need to keep open communication lines at all times. A good action, page turner, can't put it down, novel could also help transfer the pressures and sublimate the urges.
     
  5. Maybe it's not a problem for you, but have a plan B too. Maybe your wife will get triggered to the point of completely not enjoying herself. Instead of "punishing" her further by staying, discuss a code-word with your wife beforehand. When one of you uses it, then you leave the water park with some good excuse, so the kids don't wonder what happened. Definitely don't try to stay or make your wife leave, if anything triggering occurs for any of you. And, don't question your wife's triggers or get defensive, when she accuses you of something you might have not noticed about yourself. PAs often ogle or stare on autopilot, meaning they don't even realize when they do. Getting defensive will only make things worse.
     
  6. Ryan77

    Ryan77 Fapstronaut

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    Great idea. Thanks. I will keep thinking about it for myself (if I would have a problem). But then having that as a back up plan for her benefit and feelings, it could make her feel more comfortable. My older daughter is 11, so it could be tricky and confusing for her (my 9 year old is much more "go with the flow"). But my wife and I can have that all figured out beforehand and use the code-word method.
     
  7. EyesWideOpen

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    It depends on what your triggers are. Is oogling women in real life a problem for you? Will it start you on the path to craving more when you get alone? If so, it may be a good idea to re-evaluate going or it may be a good chance for you to practice averting your eyes. Let's face it, you can't avoid good looking women dressed a certain way all the time so you'll just have to learn to redirect your eyes, and when your wife is able to work through her pain, she will also learn to trust that you can redirect. If oogling is not an issue, does your wife know this? That is a discussion you will need to have with her. Trust is going to be an issue.

    So the question is...was your wife genuine in wanting to help your reboot or we she asking because she's hurt and afraid of her own triggers, or both? Contemplate that for a bit and then talk to her.

    Oogling isn't a problem for my husband so a waterpark is not an issue for our family. But there are other things that are triggers for him that we have to be careful about.
     
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  8. A water park is the last place I need to be during my reboot. It's not just kids that are there, there's usually plenty of barely dressed women too which would send my mind into overdrive and afterward my mind will likely start craving PMO. At least I'm aware of this.
     
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  9. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    All,

    Please be respectful to each other and stay on topic. Some posts, including posts that directly responded to disrespectful posts have been removed.

    Thank you.

    Moderation Team
     
  10. Eviledging

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    Im just like u with all the worry when it comes to water parks. I am a very visual and highly addicted to masterbating to "fake fems" on the internet dressed teasing or bikinis, so everytime my ex wife and now 15 yr old daughter wanted to go to them I would get worried because water parks are filled with what I jerked off to. In the beginning I made a habit to masterbate while changing so I could go out there with a clear head, other times i would consciously ignore what was around me, but then realize I wasn't enjoying the park because I was too worried.

    Eventually I came to realize that there wasn't much to worry about.yes there are some very spectacular visuals there especially when waiting in line but I wasn't in danger of PMO and the fantasies just remained in my head. My advice is not to worry so much and go with the flow
     
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  11. FlatlineFred

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    I am in flatline

    So as much as some of attendees of a water park would historically be a big turn on - it wouldn't be a problem for me at the moment.

    I would snap a rubber band on my wrist every time I had a lewd thought or fantasy.

    Try that?

    What Internet access will you have? Restrict that?
     
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  12. EyesWideOpen

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    @Ryan77 It sounds like your wife is genuine in wanting to help your recovery and that is why she asked. I have asked my husband similar things but about different situations, even though it had no emotional triggers for me one way or another. I wanted to help him plan ahead in case there was a trigger for him. Since you feel that a waterpark is not a trigger for you, talk to her honestly about it and tell her that you really just want to have a great time with the family and PMO will not be an issue. But also ask her if she is having her own trust issues with you and be genuine about asking her to tell you how she feels about the situation. Sometimes we wives will not want to tell you how we feel because we don't want to pile more guilt on you or that you really don't want to know...so if you sense she is holding back, be sure to make it clear that you really want to hear her true feelings.
     
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