10 years of not losing sexual energy during intercourse nor masturbation using Gnostic Techniques

Nomenyeux · Sep 23, 2017

UrameshiTao said: ↑

Yang and yin, sun&sun on the sky and moon&moon on the night sky, giving and receiving, logic and emotion, male and female. Basic polarities. Now which one of these 2 would you call 'positive' ? I think it is the polarity that shines , inspires and naturally gives (help, attention, uplifts, etc.).
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I get you, brother.

Harry Maclad · Sep 23, 2017

Abraxas said: ↑

Dear people,

Short introduction: I abstained from masturbation, porn and the orgasm 10 years ago with the help of the teachings of Samael Aun Weor who teaches how sexual energy can be used for spiritual purposes.

Just want to share my findings and understanding on the concept of not losing your sexual energy on the grounds of my own experience; mainly in the view of mental and physical health in general. I hope someone finds it of benefit.

First of all, if you don’t lose your sexual energy; it just gathers up. This can cause quite some frustrations and perversions; just look at all the scandals of priests or monks in various churches or monasteries where abstinence is a rule. In the end, something needs to be done with this very powerful, life creating energy; it needs to be “transmuted”.

Samael Aun Weor teaches that transmutation can be done through breathing, mantric and visualization exercises. However, for those who feel less comfortable with such exercises, he says that transmutation is also done through making longs walks in nature breathing fresh air, doing healthy sports such as swimming or rowing, appreciating and making fine art, playing a musical instrument, etc. These are all healthy creative outlets as well. Heck, even cooking works. As long as your making or doing something healthy. But if you sit behind your computer all day… yeah, I imagine the urge might be greater.

For those who do have a knack for meditative/yogic exercises, a powerful transmutation exercise is the following : Sit comfortably, close your eyes, flex your PC muscle, begin breathing in deeply and slowly, vocalise mentally the sound HAM (HHHAAAAAMMMMM), imagine sexual energy in the form of light going up from your creative organs through your spine to your brains, and breathe out quickly and powerfully while saying SAHHH as a sigh (no vocal chords used), releasing the PC muscle. Repeat.

In this way you send your sexual energy to your consciousness (if done with full attention). This is a marvelous way to gather your willpower; doing something fruitful with your sexual energy.

I can also testify the physical, mental and spiritual benefits of not losing your sexual energy in actual sexual intercourse. To learn this, all one needs is a patient and comprehensive spouse… Samael Aun Weor stresses the spiritual and moral importance of faithfulness.

If you don’t lose your energy during intercourse and you remain faithful, you’re on your way to practicing White Tantra.

All in all, it’s lust that makes us beastly. Lust is a very powerful autonomous force. Getting a little buddhist now; all suffering is based on desire. We want things; we don’t get it; we suffer. Or we do get what we want (let’s say recognition); we enjoy it for some seconds and then it’s over; or worse; then we are afraid of losing it… Since everything is impermanent; we will never keep what we want.

Actually, this is not only buddhist but universal. The seven sins mentioned in Christianity are all based on desire: lust (sexual desire), gluttony (desire for food and drink), pride (desire for recognition), greed (desire for money), sloth (desire for comfort), envy (desire and frustration for the succes of others) and anger (the frustration of desire not getting what it wants).

Samael Aun Weor teaches that these autonomous forces that can completely take us over are called ego’s. We have various ego’s (based on different desires) and through comprehension of these animal psychic forces it’s possible to eliminate them directing the creative/destructive power of sex towards them. Then instead of the weakness of lust, we will have the power of chastity, instead of gluttony/temperance, pride/humility, greed/altruism, sloth/diligence, envy/happiness for others and instead of anger… peace.

In the Gnosis of Samael Aun Weor, he stresses the importance of sexual energy in this transformative process because finally sex is the creative force of the universe. Without sex there is no life.

Sex is the neutralization (=) of two opposing forces: masculine (+) and feminine (-). When you combine these two; you create life, atoms (protons, electrons and neutrons), electricity (positive pole and negative pole connected through a ‘neutralizing’ wire), etc.

As I said, I found these teachings 10 years ago and they helped me a lot on all levels. Let me know if I can be of help; clarifying some of these concepts if needed.
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This is great! It's no wonder that most religions and ancient or past civilizations value the importance of sperm and why you should keep it in your body, cause its simply true(my experiences and thousands of other people on this forum have all experienced tons of positive benefits from not masturbating) Modern society tells that PMO is healthy and yet modern society is morally messed up! 50.2% of adults in america are single(according to ASAP science) which is really high in my opinion! And some people are suffering from depression, anxiety, etc! I am glad I came across this success story! Thanks for sharing!

Abraxas · Oct 14, 2017

SanityOverVanity said: ↑

I find the whole concept fascinating but how is it possible that you have sex without climax? How do you retain and hold it? Where does it end up going?

These are the questions of someone in complete ignorance to the subject but very interested, if you have time to enlighten
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1. It's about full body control and of course it's possible as thousands of people practice this.
2. Like mentioned before, breathing is the key.
3. It depends what you do with the sexual energy. If you don't transmute it, it gets broken down into various (beneficial) components and is then reabsorbed in the bloodstream. If you do transmute it, it becomes a subtler energy; capable of awakening latent spiritual faculties.

Abraxas · Oct 14, 2017

Abject Repentance said: ↑

Thank you. Are there any videos, demonstrations or more detailed instructions on how to do this @Abraxas ?
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Look for 'Transcendental Powers of Sexual Energy' on YouTube

Abraxas · Oct 14, 2017

Nomenyeux said: ↑

How come women have to be the negative? Why isn't it the dude? This sounds suspiciously Paulian!
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Positive is giving, negative is receiving. The man gives the zoosperm, the woman receives it : and a child is born (for this no orgasm is needed; fecundation can happen without orgasm). Male energy is 'active/positive' and female energy 'passive/negative'. Both are needed and equally important. The (masculine) Sun shines (active); Mother Nature receives it (passive) and makes all kinds of beautiful creatures.

DSBP · Nov 7, 2017

UrameshiTao said: ↑

I would say this is incomplete information considering you guys are searching into occult resources and just about anything. First of all it has relatively little to do with semen retention and minerals and vitamins. It is about chi/ki/electricity. Theres 2 c'his, yang and yin as John Chang has mentioned and many more, and in their own way. These are heaven and earth chi respectively. One comes from the sun and one from the planet/soil - earthing. Taoist sources tell us that we gather chi passively/automatically through breathing (yang chi) and food (yin and yang depending on the food). We can also superchage this with sungazing and earthing...as one method. You're supposed to gather lots of it and keep growing it. It is mainly yang chi that is sexual. Learn to feel it. While earthing in the evening and you are calm its good to just try and feel your chi, at least your wei qi (protective ki outside your skin/chi in the aura). You start with getting healthy...in the hinduist tradition they are a bit more scientific about how one can replicate this level of achivement. That is brahmacharya and healthy living. Hindu tradition also makes use of pranayama to open the nadis (meridians in taoism). This is done with alternate nostril breathing (called anulom vilom) for a while then slowly integrate retention of breath to do what is called nadi sodhana which purifies the meridians. Once this is done you are healthy. Now you can start building the 3 dan tiens in taoism or opening the chakras in hinduism and then working with shen/bindus. But here also, you do it order, starting with lower dan tien / muladhara chakra first, not ajna chakra like random google articles may say. You should not do other pranayamas before opening the nadis fully. Maybe correct your breathing to make it vase breathing or close to it as thats how one should breath. After this you may do other pranayama too, but again follow the teachings of old texts, theyre guidance everything. Also you should naturally advance in concentration. This is what the Gautama buddha did as well. He was celibate and mastered the 8 jhanas (milestones of concentration practice). This is a simplified version of it but all you need really. In hinduism they don't have jhanas but 3 different states, with samadhi being a state which you take deeper and deeper to jhana levels. And you also have samayama. The goal is to build the spiritual fetue not to keep channeling chi around and spend it on penetration. The spiritual fetus is the lower dan tien.

As for Brahmacharya it is more than just semen retention, because semen retention alone is not good. Lust is but the strongest desire in human, it is desire, a hindrance as they call it in buddhism. 'Semen retention' is the first step. Then you have mental celibacy, as in to complete nofap and take it to monk mode nofap level. Theres still things you can do. Plenty. Now you should develop yourself. As a spirit, a person. Seek to become liberated of all hindrances and poisons on the mind (I'm quiting these terms for a reason, yes). You do not look at women. You do not make sex jokes. You do not consider people who have sex lucky. You are not celibate in order to acquire powers and abilities like that of the sages and saints of all traditions. You are you. Here's buddha on it: http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/lib/authors/tanpiya/methuna_en.html . Theres also practices, but these are only and only tools like thinking of dead corpses or old women/men. I think it was one of the buddhas he gave this practice to his monks and they over did it and their minds become toxic from so much concentration on dead bodies that theyre very sunbconsciouss was filled with subtle thoughts about dead bodies making them see the world miserably, seeing only misery in the world. Thus they killed themselves by the time he returned back to the temple. This is taking the teaching wrong. It works something like this, you're celibate and in the beginning, youre REALLY horny. It helps to calm you down and make you mindfull, bring your focus back on the consciouss mind and its memories and away from some random impulse in your subconscious. You shouldn't over do it. Theres a sutra I think that also mentions how for example different types of things turn you on then you should think of different types of corpses such as rotten or cut in pieces corpses, or bug and bird eaten corpses, etc. Similarly you can remind yourself of the wreck that overindulgence in sex makes human!. Look at these psychopaths. Ted Bundy mentioned it in an interview. It starts with porn, and then more severe porn and then they go onto hardcore porn and then they want to actually rape and then.....well Ted Bundy may not know of it but if you read some more theres more levels of depravity. Theres then sniff porn where you make other person suffer. And canibalism and pedo and necrophilia and blood pool parties and other utherrly completly demended ideas such as this. As for these deeper levels it is the rich men of society that go this far. Because they can do it and get away with it as well. Ten Bundy got caught by the police and put in prison.
But also weakness, of kness, of mind, lethargy, retarded hairline which then is like close to impossible to remediate!, no drive, no spiritual urge to discover, to explore the meaning of the world, to discover YOURSELF!. THese are only but tools.
To expand more onto it, you do not allow yourself to have strong emotions of any kind as that disturbs the prana and so it disturbs your stillness/'emptiness'. For example you are incredibly, but very angry now. A couple hours later after you have calmed down your 'energy' is still excited and so it is MUCH easier for lust to rise and much stronger too. You do not allow yourself to overthink as that is attached to the 6th sense of mind. You do not allow yourself to overindulge in any of the 5 senses as that is attachment to the body. For example bitting your tongue and salivating from what you see visually is indulgence in the body, in the fiery senses. If you are used to listening to music and are very picky about it and cannot stand mental silence that is attachement to the mind sense, to thoughts. If you allow yourself to be so attached to these if you then see a nude by random it will be MUCH easier for lust/horniness to arise. Because you are not mindfull, fully. You are not grounded in .. .well you. So your impulses control you and lust arrises freely. Not good. Also if you have these kind of attachements they slow you down. They unground you emotionally and disembody you. Notice if you just watch porn and have full erection all turned on but keep your body and breathing relatively calm and do not edge at all you loose your embodiment. You will feel/be aware of your body less. This is a simple fact you can notice in your daily life. Desire/attachment into anything has a similar effect on you as well as engagin into other mental poisons / hindrances. Anger is somewhat the opposite of lust indeed, so it will quite the lust. But it still has a fiery, disturbing effect on your prana. That disturbed chi must then calmed down with lots of exercise, like horse stance, and deep meditation, etc. Water also disturbs the chi in the body, this is why shower before bed could be conductive to nocturnal fall. If you're low on chi, because youre low on your 'nofap strike' then likely a cold shower will benefit as it will shake you mentally and theres little chi to be disturbed and run wild/warm you up. But you know, if you are in a long strike of pure monk mode nofap, celibacy the proper way without cheating, and you haven't been working out enough or doing enough and deep enough meditation, etc water at night before bed will have the opposite effect you ask for. In time the sex force is calmed and eventually, but this is a VERY hard achievement to make, the sex pulse is eradicated. The vedic texts teach us that semen is actually in subtle form in all the cells of the body and sex thoughts (especially, but also disturbances as I mentioned previously) cause it to liquify, to become ejaculatory substance. So you see the body will produce spinal and brain fluid as it needs but once enough it will either keep refining that better, strenghening the potency of that fluid or maintain the 'semen' / vitality in harmonious (balanced) subtle form in the cells of the body and strengthening that thus strengthening the cells. It is a fact that sex thoughts actually cause sexual hormones to be realeased and the whole body made favourable to have sex (for example over stimulation of the SM system and no use of the PNS). So if you are an actual brahmachary you will not produce these sex hormones/substance / not conduct sexually favourable activity in the body. In the hindu science they have an actual name for this state, spelled like oordovheta? Anyway you do not practice semen retention alone. You do not practice brahmacharya alone. What OP is actually doing is keep throwing the extra chi he cannot take in away. Not allowing it to build properly. Although this can be another 'tool' if it becomes the central practice that is wrong. Incorrect.
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Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.

Shohrat Shankar · Nov 7, 2017

Great! congratulations!

DSBP · Jul 3, 2018

dump it up

DIYAS1 · Jul 3, 2018

Thank you, beautiful knowledge and insight.

Warrior36 · Jul 8, 2018

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Thanks I am not in a relationship. Just curious. Have never been. Maybe will never be...
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You will be. Just keep on improving your life in balance and you will meet the right person. Believe!

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