TantraMan
Fapstronaut
I always recommend not to take pills, you're giving something unnatural to your body, so you cannot expect your body to have a natural behavior... What frustrates you most about your PIED situation?
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I always recommend not to take pills, you're giving something unnatural to your body, so you cannot expect your body to have a natural behavior... What frustrates you most about your PIED situation?
JoeinUSA
Fapstronaut
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
The most frustrating thing is not being able to be erect when I'm with a girl. Its very embarassing and ruining my love life
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
The longest i lasted with 30 days. Im hoping this time ill go 90+
SovjetOnion
Fapstronaut
I feel like doing Nofap is all you need to get it together bro, which is good! As long as girls are into you and you can get as much action as you're getting now, you should be all good, no worries. If I were you i'd do Nofap for a while to get your dopamine levels back up, then see how it goes with a girl after a while. Good luck!
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
Thanks brother <3
Yeah at any given time I'm talking to 5-10 chicks. It gets exhausting coming up with excuses not to have sex haha
Waiting for my morning woods to come back before I try banging one of em
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
Day 25 now, crazy couple weeks.
Went out downtown for a weekend and I've never gotten so many girls in my life.
Something about not nutting is making these females way more attracted to me.
Only shit thing with PIED I gotta find reasons not to fuck last minute which is so annoying.... And this one girl was a legit insta model fml...
I'm regularly doing cardio in the gym now, I can run 5k in 25 mins or less now. Never thought I could it again. My lifts in the gym are going up too.
No urges to jerk off at all. Maybe this is a flat line phase.
Been working on my resume and trying to find a new job so thats been nice. Alot of self growth during NoFap.
Given my history with fapping like a mad man, 5ish times a day from like age 13-25, I definitely think my PIED journey is gonna last longer than 90 days. Fml...
Went out downtown for a weekend and I've never gotten so many girls in my life.
Something about not nutting is making these females way more attracted to me.
Only shit thing with PIED I gotta find reasons not to fuck last minute which is so annoying.... And this one girl was a legit insta model fml...
I'm regularly doing cardio in the gym now, I can run 5k in 25 mins or less now. Never thought I could it again. My lifts in the gym are going up too.
No urges to jerk off at all. Maybe this is a flat line phase.
Been working on my resume and trying to find a new job so thats been nice. Alot of self growth during NoFap.
Given my history with fapping like a mad man, 5ish times a day from like age 13-25, I definitely think my PIED journey is gonna last longer than 90 days. Fml...
Chokejoke35
Fapstronaut
Iam on Day ~145 with 3 slip ups in the Beginning and it is getting something like normal again!
Keep on the Road my Man.
This PIED Shit can get solved by NoFap, no doubts left!
Keep on the Road my Man.
This PIED Shit can get solved by NoFap, no doubts left!
Listen man, I'm really no expert on porn-induced sexual dysfunction as I've mostly just discovered this and concluded I was suffering from it, but I think there are a few things worth commenting on here.
First of all, limp dick or not, you were headed for disaster anyway. The first thing I noticed is you saying the girl was explicit about wanting a FWB while you wanted a relationship, and now you're heartbroken. The problem is you refused to see reality: this wasn't going to be a relationship, and you were banking on a fantasy. Proof of the mistake is that you're heartbroken over someone who basically told you from the get go you shouldn't get attached. That's not a porn or penis problem, that's a mind and self-esteem problem.
I think you're probably going to have a hard time getting through that on your own. You seem to be in pretty deep waters at this point and one thing to note is that addictions, while they feed on themselves, they're usually caused by something else. You say you started masturbating like crazy around 12. Well, ... most likely, everyone did jerk off like crazy around 12. The problem probably isn't that you're masturbating. It's that something has pushed you to masturbate at an unhealthy rate.
Basically, what I'm getting at is that you should probably seek psychological help. Because your porn/jerk off addiction is more than likely rooted in something else that you've unconsciously been trying to fix or escape from by using. Without tackling this problem, you'll be fighting an uphill battle. Get yourself a sexologist, and while it may be tempting to get a woman, I would strongly advise that you get a man (at least for me, I felt better with the idea of confiding and opening up with a woman, but quickly realized I wasn't as comfortable talking about the darker aspects of the porn I'd watched with her).
I know many here would disagree with this, but personally I remain unconvinced that eliminating masturbation altogether is necessarily beneficial. But I think you'll need to change how you do it. No more porn, and try using lighter stimulation, even if that means failing to cum sometimes. The more I read about it these days the more it seems that what matters above all is to re-educate yourself to be aroused by normal intercourse. Focus on things you'd do with the girl, not on porn-like scenes, and don't stimulate yourself to a degree that will never happen during sex. Also, probably limit yourself. Maybe try to do it only when you're fully "restocked" (sperm regenerates in about 48-72 hours). Being locked and loaded will probably make it easier to get turned on and then cum.
That's all I can say for now. I've long read about how watching porn could make you disconnected from your own experience as it externalizes the mental processes that drive sexual desire. Guess is you want to get that back. You want to own the tools of your own horniness. At least for me, this first step (eliminating porn completely, and jerking off only to my own fantasy), happened quite fast. A few weeks, and I went from having been virtually incapable of jerking off (and often even getting hard) without porn, to being able to do it reliably and rather quickly.
I think you've made clear that this is in your head now: you can easily get hard when you see porn, proving that the problem is not physical. Keep hope. I've known guys who were incapable of staying hard with a girl. A few of my female friends told me these stories at the time. They would be with a guy who just couldn't get it hard. Even though they were young and healthy. It was the stress and fear and all of it. The stories consistently ended the same way: once it went well once or twice, the problem disappeared. Might not happen so magically with you, but it's a very real possibility. Find a girl from whom you feel no pressure, and with whom you feel good and safe.
First of all, limp dick or not, you were headed for disaster anyway. The first thing I noticed is you saying the girl was explicit about wanting a FWB while you wanted a relationship, and now you're heartbroken. The problem is you refused to see reality: this wasn't going to be a relationship, and you were banking on a fantasy. Proof of the mistake is that you're heartbroken over someone who basically told you from the get go you shouldn't get attached. That's not a porn or penis problem, that's a mind and self-esteem problem.
I think you're probably going to have a hard time getting through that on your own. You seem to be in pretty deep waters at this point and one thing to note is that addictions, while they feed on themselves, they're usually caused by something else. You say you started masturbating like crazy around 12. Well, ... most likely, everyone did jerk off like crazy around 12. The problem probably isn't that you're masturbating. It's that something has pushed you to masturbate at an unhealthy rate.
Basically, what I'm getting at is that you should probably seek psychological help. Because your porn/jerk off addiction is more than likely rooted in something else that you've unconsciously been trying to fix or escape from by using. Without tackling this problem, you'll be fighting an uphill battle. Get yourself a sexologist, and while it may be tempting to get a woman, I would strongly advise that you get a man (at least for me, I felt better with the idea of confiding and opening up with a woman, but quickly realized I wasn't as comfortable talking about the darker aspects of the porn I'd watched with her).
I know many here would disagree with this, but personally I remain unconvinced that eliminating masturbation altogether is necessarily beneficial. But I think you'll need to change how you do it. No more porn, and try using lighter stimulation, even if that means failing to cum sometimes. The more I read about it these days the more it seems that what matters above all is to re-educate yourself to be aroused by normal intercourse. Focus on things you'd do with the girl, not on porn-like scenes, and don't stimulate yourself to a degree that will never happen during sex. Also, probably limit yourself. Maybe try to do it only when you're fully "restocked" (sperm regenerates in about 48-72 hours). Being locked and loaded will probably make it easier to get turned on and then cum.
That's all I can say for now. I've long read about how watching porn could make you disconnected from your own experience as it externalizes the mental processes that drive sexual desire. Guess is you want to get that back. You want to own the tools of your own horniness. At least for me, this first step (eliminating porn completely, and jerking off only to my own fantasy), happened quite fast. A few weeks, and I went from having been virtually incapable of jerking off (and often even getting hard) without porn, to being able to do it reliably and rather quickly.
I think you've made clear that this is in your head now: you can easily get hard when you see porn, proving that the problem is not physical. Keep hope. I've known guys who were incapable of staying hard with a girl. A few of my female friends told me these stories at the time. They would be with a guy who just couldn't get it hard. Even though they were young and healthy. It was the stress and fear and all of it. The stories consistently ended the same way: once it went well once or twice, the problem disappeared. Might not happen so magically with you, but it's a very real possibility. Find a girl from whom you feel no pressure, and with whom you feel good and safe.
Definitely not about the girl, but about how he feels with that girl, for whatever reasons that are his. I know that I personally tend to underperform in hookups or whenever I'm with someone with whom I feel that my immediate performance might determine whether I see that girl again or not. It's not a problem with the girls of course, it's how I perceive and handle expectations, but with that said there are some rare women that my own bias or affinity lead me to be way more comfortable and easygoing with. Assuming the same might be true here: if you're with a girl who says she wants to be FWB, you kinda know to some degree that you're under pressure to provide a decent B.
For the refilling of the sperm there definitely is data on it. The number I learned in physiology classes were the ones I posted but you'll find estimates ranging from 36 hours to 7 days.
As for whether it would impact his ability to get turned on and ejaculate, that's my own experience, but I'm assuming this is shared by most.
Also for the effectiveness of no PMO as opposed to just no P, I guess it's a bit off topic here so I'll make this quick. Since I'm new to this community and to the concept of PISD (been binge reading about it for a few days, but still pretty thin knowledge), I'm not sure what exactly people mean when they talk about their addictions, or about unhealthy masturbation. I've seen people here describing their habits as being in the order of many faps/day for years. That might be what is throwing me off here because that hasn't been my rate at all. I've certainly had sporadic moments where I'd feel particularly horny and do it 2-3 times in a day, but that would last only a few days, and then I'd be back to my usual 1-3 times a week. So maybe I just don't see yet to what extent some people made fapping itself, rather than the context of the faps, unhealthy.
For the refilling of the sperm there definitely is data on it. The number I learned in physiology classes were the ones I posted but you'll find estimates ranging from 36 hours to 7 days.
As for whether it would impact his ability to get turned on and ejaculate, that's my own experience, but I'm assuming this is shared by most.
Also for the effectiveness of no PMO as opposed to just no P, I guess it's a bit off topic here so I'll make this quick. Since I'm new to this community and to the concept of PISD (been binge reading about it for a few days, but still pretty thin knowledge), I'm not sure what exactly people mean when they talk about their addictions, or about unhealthy masturbation. I've seen people here describing their habits as being in the order of many faps/day for years. That might be what is throwing me off here because that hasn't been my rate at all. I've certainly had sporadic moments where I'd feel particularly horny and do it 2-3 times in a day, but that would last only a few days, and then I'd be back to my usual 1-3 times a week. So maybe I just don't see yet to what extent some people made fapping itself, rather than the context of the faps, unhealthy.
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SirGalahad
Fapstronaut
So... if you can't get it up with a girl, and you've tried over 50 times... maybe you're just gay? Or asexual?
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
Thanks for the feedback bro!
I quickly realized I was in the wrong 2 days after the initial post. Cant get mad at someone for being honest from the start and wanting fwb. Lesson learned.
I used to be very antisocial and quiet which is why the aggressive masterbating started. I wasnt really popular until uni. By the time I blossomed i was 7 years deep of aggressive masterbating so I never cut the habit till now. Psyc wise Im fine.
I watched so much porn that even porn wasnt cutting it anymore. I was so densensitized. I trained myself to cum without even getting an erection. Or Id have to hold my breath to the point of almost passing out to get a nut off. Im glad your addiction wasnt severe as mine. But I reallyy want to do at least 90 days of no PMO and heal. And then begin rewiring my brain like youre doing.
My last couple partners I literally told them I had PIED and they were udnerstanding. It got rid of all the pressure. We even attempted it on different nights. I felt no stress and I was super attracted to the girl but still nothing. Just gotta trust the process
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
I thought I might be asexual but in bed with some of these girls I was literally so attracted and turned on to them. There was nothing more badly I wanted in that moment then to sleep with them. So I dont thinkk that counts as asexual
DUDE LOL I loved that episode. I used to fap so hard Id literally have skin burns on my dick occasionally. Shit was painful.
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
Update:
Currently on day 30+. I'm not really experiencing the flat line as everyone talks about in this forum.
I'm just living my same life tbh. Def spent alot more time in the gym. Almost best shape I've been in my life. Started applying for new jobs and had an interview this week. Literally no urges to jerk it, it doesn't even cross my mind daily anymore. Starting to snow where I am so def excited to get my snowboard out. I'll probably post less frequent updates as I feel I got this NoFap hard mode thing under control. Ill def provide updates every 30 days. Also I recently started meditating last week cuz fuck it why not. I still dont believe in meditation but I'll stick to it and see if I get results in a month. No random boners or morning woods yet. Talk to you boys soon!
Currently on day 30+. I'm not really experiencing the flat line as everyone talks about in this forum.
I'm just living my same life tbh. Def spent alot more time in the gym. Almost best shape I've been in my life. Started applying for new jobs and had an interview this week. Literally no urges to jerk it, it doesn't even cross my mind daily anymore. Starting to snow where I am so def excited to get my snowboard out. I'll probably post less frequent updates as I feel I got this NoFap hard mode thing under control. Ill def provide updates every 30 days. Also I recently started meditating last week cuz fuck it why not. I still dont believe in meditation but I'll stick to it and see if I get results in a month. No random boners or morning woods yet. Talk to you boys soon!
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Mate, I'm gonna tell you some things about myself. I've always been kind of confident and such but lost my virginity at 29. Now I'm 36 and about to get married to the second girlfriend I've ever had. I'm in the process of getting rid of pornography, it's been one month so far and I feel great. I've got much more physical and mental energy, now I work better, I give much more attention to my family, friends and my girl. I tell you that you'll overcome all this shit you've been through and it's gonna be worth it. I believe.
I wish you all the best, mate!
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Most porn addicts just can't get it hard with a real woman, no matter how hot, sexy and stunning she is. Things just don't work properly because of the damages porn does to one's mind. I don't think that our friend is "gay" or "asexual", he has to get rid of porn and masturbation.
BertrandR
Fapstronaut
Sad to hear your story, but it seems it is going good! I had PIED too, and, to be honest, I've not really solved it. I mean, it passed, but I have to be cautious on not start again watching porn and masturbating too much. it helped me a lot to be with a girl, and talk of this problem (after many times sex didn't go). if you want you can check my story. maybe something will help you. at the moment I'm on a relationship, my penis work without problems. only thing is that if I masturbate it starts to not be at 100%, but it solves in few days.
johndoe365
Fapstronaut
I'm happy to hear your story bro and glad to hear youre doing better! Glad to know its not too late for me and I can be saved!
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Thanks mate! I'm sticking to my streak and I won't cover myself with dirt again. Never again.
And yes, it is never too late. Keep pushing! I believe you're going to win this war.