@Hros How do you like to respond to anti-Jewish [religion] sentiments about the Talmud harshly sanctioning execution for a whole host of sins? To me, it breaks down to the fact that God owns that is right and wrong, as well as the consequences. It's a common issue difficult to respond to in secularist way. Pride tells them there is no sin in denying God or mistreating some people. And, yet, religions people generally believe that God, the Creator, or the universe, variously, will punish/demote/etc the wicked.