32 days hard mode. Fighting HOCD.

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  1. diddykong

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    I've wanted to write something for a while as I know a lot of people here are working through HOCD. I've been lurking here since I started my reboot and this forum has been a massive source of inspiration for me. I need to write this but I am finding this really difficult to write, even on an anonymous forum. I stumbled upon nofap almost by accident, then YBOP made me realise that a lot of my problems were probably porn related and HOCD (I actually didn't realise you could have HOCD until I read that). Decided to give it a go that day and 32 days later I haven't looked back (I never imagined I could make it this far). My target is 90 days hard mode but I feel like I'll probably need to extend it.

    I'm 30 years old. Originally started MO without P, I think I was 12. Been PMOing most days for the past few years but have found my PMO escalating over the past couple of years - I could waste hours and wasn't really even enjoying it. Was watching gay and straight porn for at least 5 years. So many times I wanted to quit but never committed. I don't know how I escalated into gay, I think it was a combination of OCD thoughts that I might be gay and novelty (I'm sure I've always had mild OCD so it feels logical that I would have HOCD as well). I could barely talk to another guy without feeling anxious. I've never experienced attraction to other men or even fantasies but my mind would go into overdrive if a man so much as looked at me.

    My benefits since rebooting:
    • HOCD so much better already. Feel more comfortable around other men and can have a "normal" conversation with guys now. I actually engage in small talk now (something I used to hate) and I'm much better at banishing the OCD thoughts when they start (which I also do with my non HOCD thoughts). It feeds on anxiety so I find that the trick is not getting anxious when the thoughts arise. That's much easier if I'm not PMOing to gay porn.
    • Less lethargic during the day, even though I sleep less.
    • I can't believe how much energy I used to waste on PMO. Sometimes I feel like I have so much energy I can't get it out.
    • Doing more exercise and seem to have more endurance.
    • I've embraced cold showers, which I'm actually starting to look forward to every day.
    • I've lost a lot of weight over the last year but it got static. I've somehow managed to lose 4kg weight in the last month (3kg away now from the target I set last year) which is awesome!
    In terms of withdrawal it hasn't been too bad. Luckily, I've had no urges for P. I've had some urges to use P subs but most urges have been for MO. Urges seem worse in the morning and before bed.

    For anyone else suffering with HOCD, it's miserable and people don't understand it which makes it hard to talk about. It's definitely easier to manage now that I know what it is and I'm not constantly feeding it with PMO, which feeds the anxiety. Sometimes I feel like I'm completely broken but I know it'll get better.

    Thanks for reading. Stay strong :)
     
  2. ILoathePwife

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    I'm so glad you found the courage to write about your journey! Bravo. I think talking about it with others, in real life or here on the forums, is such a healthy step in taking power back from your addiction. It thrives in secrecy. Drag it out into the light and kill it, kicking and screaming. Congrats on 32 days!!
     
  3. iHappy

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    @diddykong Thanks for sharing your story :) and congratulations!
     
  4. Oneness

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    Thank you my man. I'm going through a bit of a rough time at the moment, thanks for helping me reaffirm my commitment and realise it's not worth the 2 seconds of pleasure at the cost of feeling like a real person.
     
  5. diddykong

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    Thank you everyone. Currently day 39 and the urges have completely gone (think I'm probably flat lining at the moment). I've been doing a lot of reading about OCD and am practising techniques to try and overcome it. Until recently I didn't realize how much anxiety is the driving factor. I've had anxiety problems in the past but I think as my OCD has got worse then OCD hides the anxiety for you. Unfortunately, the more you give it the more it takes and before you know it your compulsions have taken over your life. OCD has a habit of hiding how much you are doing your compulsions and after time you don't even know why you do them. Trying to resist the compulsion brings back anxiety.

    For those suffering with OCD, it's a hard battle. It pretends to be your friend but it's really your enemy. The only way to defeat it is to stand up to it and it really doesn't go down without a fight. Without Nofap there is no way that I'd have the strength of character or belief to fight this. I would suggest read as much as you can about how OCD works and start to learn some techniques to overcome it. Be prepared for anxiety as you start to confront the monster, some people even need medication to get over that initial period.
     
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  6. Nickarlson

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    Thanks for sharing, and congratulation! Sounds like you've come a long way. Keep it up
     
  7. Lone_Wolf

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    @diddykong Has your overall confidence level increased? Was that a problem before?
     
  8. DayDreamer

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    I'am in the same boat as you. I am also diagnosed with (h)ocd by my therapist.

    But my HOCD kicked in after a drunk shemale encounter and ed with girls. Before i never escalated to gay porn, after due to compulsing checking behaviors, i watched occasionally gay porn. But i think i can be aroused by any porn. For example: Shemale porn were the most aroused one for a few years till last april. For some reason i had no nervous feeling anymore when i watched shemale porn, since then i dont have any arousal with shemales...

    The same with gay porn (not hairy guys). If i feel confident and my anxiety is low, i cant get aroused. When im full of fear i get aroused. Fucking wierd.

    I always had wierd fantasies while Jerking off (include gay) but never questioned my orientation. Im surrounded by male my whole life. If i am gay, i should have know it much earlier (hocd started at 24!)

    I'am really scared out of my mind thanks to the HOCD.
    Do u also feel asexual when hocd is making circles around your head?


    note:
    I had a very helpful post from a guy at yourbrainrebalanced. (name: HateAnxiety) He beated hocd.

    He did send this message to me:


    Hello dude.

    How are you? It has been a few years since I wrote those texts and in fact I can't remember most of them. Today it is as if those times were a bad dream or in fact never had happened. But they did. How am I today? I had a fantastic year, got involved and in love two times with amazing girls but both dumped for some random reason! LOL That's life, right? I'm saying this not to brag but to show you how possible is to live free from OCD. You can live 100% FREE. I rarely have an OCD thought nowadays, and if I do they probably will not bother me (because they can't fool me anymore). I'm also finishing my master's degree and soon will start my PhD in Psychology. Again, I'm not saying this to brag but to show you that I'm very commited to learn this whole psychology deal (that covers so much more than only OCD).

    So, let's get to the point here. There is a way to beat HOCD and it is like this: to gain INSIGHT about how thoughts work, what are the interplay beetwen thoughts, emotions and behaviours (like rumination, like checking erections, checking bodily sensations to look for arousal and other usual OCD "checking" behavior). You will get progressive insight until you finally perceive the FALSE NATURE of OCD thoughts. In fact, if you want to beat OCD you must be a MASTER at understanding how your mind works. And the way to get this INSIGHT and understanding is through MINDFULNESS MEDITATION.

    If you want to beat OCD, you HAVE to read the books below:
    You Are Not Your Brain: The 4‑Step Solution for Changing Bad Habits (Dr. Schwartz)
    Brain Lock: Free Yourself from Obsessive-Compulsive Behavior (Dr. Schwartz)
    Freedom from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder: A Personalized Recovery Program for Living with Uncertainty (Jonathan Grayson)
    Overcoming Obsessive Thoughts (David Clark)
    Mindfulness in Plain English (Henepola Gunaratana)
    The Joy of Living: Unlocking the Secret and Science of Happiness (Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche) - Show how he beated panic disorder through insight gained in meditation

    Find a way to buy them. Start practicing mindfulness meditation. Find a center where people practice it. Find other books relating mindfulness and OCD. Read. Practice. Start beating OCD everyday. I can't learn mindfulness meditation and what mindfulness is for you, only you can learn for yourself!!! I did for myself. I'm a role model but only you can reclaim your life.

    Best of all,
     
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  9. diddykong

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    Thanks! I've actually read most of those and am practising mindfulness. My OCD is definitely improving but it's really hard. Every day I feel like giving into that nice anxiety free land that OCD built for me but I know that I need to be strong and beat it because I'm tired of my life being ruled by this.

    I'm starting to do ERP which is definitely helping but I've realized that it's important to not push the exposure too much or it does trigger a lot of anxiety.

    One thing I've realized is that our bodies are really not very good at differentiating anxiety from arousal. Some people can get erections when scared. Anxiety also heightens dopamine responses. Our OCD then attributes any groinal response to arousal when really it could be anxiety.

    I do sometimes feel asexual. I've realized though that the underlying fear in HOCD is of not knowing my actual sexuality.

    In terms of confidence, it was definitely a problem before. I definitely am starting to feel more confident when talking with other guys (I'm not second guessing whether they're gay, whether they think I'm gay etc... which is one of my OCD compulsions) and am starting to make small talk with guys and girls. I'm feeling more confident in myself as well. OCD has kept my self confidence down for years.

    I know that this is a long journey but I'm feeling confident that I'll get through it.

    Good luck.
     
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  10. kriss93

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    How long have you been on Nofap?

    How do you feel for girls? To you feel that "inner masculine" feeling that you need to protect and care for them. Or it doesn't appeared in you yet?
     
  11. diddykong

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    Haven't really been counting but I'm on 50 days now.

    Haven't really experienced that yet. I'm starting to think about relationships more though.
     
  12. Lone_Wolf

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    Sounds like you've been counting. ;)
     
  13. diddykong

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    I just had to work it out! I can remember which day I stopped on. I just mean that I haven't been counting every day. It's become part of my lifestyle.
     
  14. DayDreamer

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    I can tell you, this is by far the worst thing that happened in my whole life. Even if a relativ would die it would be in the shadow of this fucking satanistic disorder.

    I have sometimes the urge to puke out of fear, crazy that just stupid thoughts can do that.

    If i could turn back the time 2,5 years and cut 5 years of my life, i will do it without a doubt.


    @diddy:

    Did reading those books help?
     
  15. diddykong

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    I completely get what you're saying.

    Definitely read about OCD. I found Brain Lock was really helpful to get an understanding of why our brains do this to us. I still use the Four Steps, particularly when the urge to do compulsions are strong. I have realized that most OCD books focus on washing compulsions which, whilst it's the same disorder, feels less relatable. I read a book called the mindfulness workbook for OCD. That actually has a specific section on HOCD which really helped me come to terms with this. Understanding mindfulness enabled me to start doing ERP which is ultimately what helps to get rid of OCD. If you're working with a therapist then they will do CBT and ERP with you.
     
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    Do you know the writer and the name of the book?

    And do you have/had also ''gay'' fantasies outside porn?
     
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  18. DayDreamer

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    Thanks!

    I mean when MO.
     
  19. 32 days HardMode, great bro...you came too far to quit. Don't Stop.
     
  20. diddykong

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    Thinking more I definitely did used to when MOing. I don't think I was ever part of the fantasy though, I was always an observer.

    I feel like I'm making small improvements every day. "This is my OCD" has become my mantra for life (thanks to Brain Lock!) Whenever my anxiety is building or when I know I'll get triggered it really helps.

    Thanks Ankur! I'm not planning on stopping. I've never felt so good in my life. Right now I never want to PMO again.
     
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