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40 years worth of addiction.....This won't be easy.

Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Sante364, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. Suk

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    I'm just really surprised that many online sites still proclaim that masturbating is a really healthy habit, whereas it's destroying soo many lives. I hope all of you get the strength to abstain from porn and recover soon.All the best! :)
     
  2. Sante364

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    IMHO, masturbation itself is not an issue. But, when when it's to porn, all the time, then it becomes a problem. For porn addicts, not masturbating is part of the reboot, if they choose to not do it. Once the addiction to porn has been managed, I don't see why one would not masturbate as needed. But porn is the issue.
     
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  3. Suk

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    Yes porn is the issue but when your young that's the only source of masturbation you will have. You may start masturbating imagining stuff but you will end up watching porn and masturbating as it's considered really normal nowadays!
     
  4. Sante364

    Sante364 Fapstronaut

    Good Point. So how does a youngster not get hooked on the dopamine release associated with orgasm?
     
  5. Suk

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    Well I think things like these should be included in sex education classes(well maybe they are I'm not so sure but definitely weren't in my school) so that we know that porn can damage lives and have already done it....this warning would have been really helpful!
    And as for the best way banning porn completely is the best way, but that's impossible now!
     
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  6. I agree, sex education should include education about porn. My kids say they learned nothing about it, so I had a fun talk with them about it. I can't avoid that they will watch it but I can put some perspective on it. Make them see the fake-ness, the abuse, the bad example. And on the other side, the beauty of discoveringing love and sex by yourself.
     
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  7. Bulk-er

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    @Sante364 reading about your porn habits I saw myself 100%, sneaking to online porn as soon as I was alone and I was getting very angry and nervous when I had to do some stuff at a certain hour and I had just one hour to masturbate but I was not alone at home: I was feeling not ok going out of home without masturbating before, so many times I risked of being caught jerking: then at night I had all the time to fap and edge on porn for hours and hours and hours, going to sleep at early morning and sleeping just few hours; feeling wasted after waking up and going straight to fap again for feeling better with ejaculation, and after that again, hyper tired, bone pains, depressed. Masturbating was the medicine for everything, cause ehy...masturbating is healthy, it makes me feel better, it's just that I can schedule my porn sessions as I'd need to match my other duties, so I'm messing my days, but they...masturbating is healhty and porn is just fun, while it was my demon.
    I also have collected huge terabyte of porn since i was very young, all with categories, names, subfolders: it was my treasure: at the beginning of high speed internet era I got by some hacker friends all the passwords of the best porn websites, every months new passwords for free instead of paying and I was the celebrity of lots of my friends for this thing cause I was giving those passwords to everybody: for me was not enough just watching for free but I had to download everything was matching my tastes: btw I'm very strict with what really turn me on, so I know all the actress but just few of them are perfect for me: I was always looking for another porn actress that was fuxxing the way I like, but most of the times I was disappointed by all the porn actress I was coming across, so I escalated to every kind of degrading porn cause after hours of hunting, fapping, anxiety, nervousism,,,,,I had to give vent, I had to ejaculate so I ve need everytime somthing stronger.

    Thing thing lead me to ask you: have you also used Death grip while masturbating? I mean grabbing your penis very tight. it's a way that amplifies the pleasure but desentitise your penis and it never could be compared with the softness of a vagina when you penetrate her with your penis: this is another reason while it get harder to perform with a woman after years of raw masturbation watching porn.

    Do you know about the Coolidge effect: it's one of the first thing appeared for erectlile dysfunction connected with porn, so I guess you know about it otherwise try to google it.
    However the point is that as soon as we get tired, bored, no longer curious about what have been a novelty once we look for something new cause we get tolerant to that input, dopamine levels decrease and we need a stronger input to get that dopamine hit for feeling better and having an erection: this, time after time after time leads to exhaustion. It should be the signal we should stop and recover for a very long time, while considering we didn't know anything about these scientific stuff, we kept looking for that dopamine hit while being already exhausted: it hurts thinking about how obvious is this: using a lot something till to waste it and keep on using it: it get destroyed.
    The low libido and I m talking about natural erections is due to the low dopamine levels we have after years of masturbation on porn. As soon as you finish your masturbation session and get your struggled dopamine dose, the rest is not as strong as that dopamine dose even if is not even satisfying as it was years ago, and your dopamine leves drop even lower. It get very difficult to have sex with a woman with low dopamine levels: with a woman everything should spontaneously happen, while when we masturbate on porn we control everything: best grip on our penis, best position on the chair: best actress for that day, best scene for our mood in that moment, ejaculation exactly when we decide to.
    Real sex can't compete with porn experience when you've abused of porn for years and escalated to stronger with the time passing.

    We have to quit porn, masturbation and accept that low libido of 90yo men and rest and recover in order then to feel horny again for small and vanilla sex as when we were teenagers. Of course we're not teenagers anymore and our bodies are not responsive as before, but we're not old people so our penis should work always in normal conditions of life.
    When having again spontaneous erections or erections with just a simple tought it will be the signal we're healing.
    I always said I was always horny, while I was not horny in a heathy way: I was addicted to dopamine hits and I was going to get that hit, watching porn and masturbating on it.
    My apologies for being so long and talking about things most of people here already know: it's my way to elaborate the problem and spread opinions, studies, knowledge, experiences.
     
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  8. Sante364

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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm in agreement with all of it, and, everything you've said is something I could have written myself. The only question I'm unable to answer with certainty is the dealthgrip. I don't think I have subjected myself to that. Certainly not enough for it to have become a problem during sex. But it's been so goddam long.... The more I think about my actual sex life, the more I realize that 100% of it, going back decades, was solely meant as a porn simulation...Life imitating porn.
     
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  9. Bulk-er

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    I also had a very kinky gf: she found out she was so kinky while she was with me, cause we were both deeply inlove and she opened herself fully to me and I've always been much more depravated than the average and this girl appreciated it cause she felt like I was doing those crazy things with her cause I was mad on her and she felt free to explore her sexuality and get very kinky, also because it's easier for women as they mostly receive the pervetion of a man.
    So I was bringing my porn world in real life: anyway it has not been enough to keep her.
    It was a long distance relationship: we didn't live together, we were staying together periodically and lots of time I was postponing some meeting with her cause my dick was dead due to over ejcaculation on porn in some periods.
    I simply already knew I would have been able to perform with her in those conditions; I know if my penis would be more responsive since I wake up on morning: if shrivelled, turtled back, dried when flaccid, there s no way to have a strong erection without abusing of dirty porn stuff.
    Other days when my flaccid is fuller, loose, healthier shape, I know it will be easier to get an erection
     

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