Current streak: 476 days no PMO, semen retention This is an advice that my father a real tantric master told me yesterday “First of all recognize the illusion of this world, the materiality and mundanity of women in general, you need to have clear concepts about the deceit of the material life so this way you find the motivation to search the inner life which is what is really truthful." Women in general love their egos, that is why it's so hard to find a good girl because a girl is how you meet her she won't change. For me more than doing long semen retention streaks, living without sex, living as a monk, long hours of meditation, fasting, doing medical school, the most hard thing in my life has been to see a woman for what she really is, without lust blinding my sight. Conclusion: if you can see a woman without lust for what she really is then you have taken the veil of illusion, you have become a bit more wise, free and a less confused. This is a step further to liberation.
dude your discipline is admirable and inspiring! its another level. What your father is said is deep!
That's an odd thing to say. It's fairly easy to see a woman for what she really is when you remove the intention of having sex with her, because you're trying to maintain a streak of celibacy and self-growth. I guess you've been too concerned with having sex with women? If i may ask, is your father married?
I'm talking about taking lust out of your head so you choose the right person you are going to create an intimate relationship, choosing a right girl is one difficult aspects that most men can't do right. In general for men is by no means an easy task. Maybe it is for you and if it is congratulations brother. Maybe you can share your experience with women and why you consider it so easy.
I only orgasmed 3 times in my life during sex, we talked about this before @pcmaster Also it doesn't mean I only had sex 3 times in my life, I practice non ejaculatory sex.
Having lust in your head it's what porn addiction is all about you are infatuated for a woman's appearance. The advice goes deeper it means taking lust out of your mind so you see reality with a clear sight. I'm also talking about my experience, I'm not preaching or telling rules to anybody. It has worked for me and my current streak and many long streaks I had in my life and not having my life destroyed for making bad choices regarding girls.
I know what you’re talking about. It seems contradictory to me that you are well versed in semen retention/ abstinence but have trouble removing lust from your decision making when it comes to women. Usually those 2 things go hand in hand. If you can remove yourself from the need to have sex then all that’s left is the actual person across from you. I’ll admit since I began my SR journey I haven’t been having sex, but again, that’s because I choose not to pursue women for sex. It’s not worth it to me at this moment, and one of the ways I avoid taking certain opportunities with women is by being realistic about what I would get out of it. Sure, she may be hot.. but what’s the point? Btw I don’t think there’s anything wrong with pursuing a relationship with women while having physical attraction being a factor. It’s whether or not you are pursuing for the sole purpose of sex. I was a lust machine before this. In grade 7 I began groping girls at school, excessively m’ing and so on. All I cared about was chasing women for sex since that young age, until about 23 or 24.
Well if you can remove the need to have sex, you are almost a saint or an enlighten being. Even saints living in the desert eating only a very frugal diet and water, feel tempted by lust. Good luck in your journey brother, I wish you the best
There are people on this website who have gone 1000+ days without sex or pmo... would you say they had to remove themselves from the need for sex in order to accomplish that? Would you say they are saints? I didn’t say no one is ever tempted. There’s a difference between being tempted and being swayed by temptation. Still very confused by your standpoint. @pcmaster maybe you can explain how you are on almost 1000 days now?
No, Mike tyson didn't have sex for 5 years until he became world champion and then he went to jail for raping. Many girls can easily spend years without sex or masturbation and have several mental issues or be a normal person too. Why are you confused? I don't understand, do you think I'm some kind of dude obssesed with sex that for me being able to see a woman beyond her sexuality is so difficult and that is why I'm such a deluded person?
I firmly believe if you are able to master your sexuality you are very close to being a saint. It doesn't simply means suppression of sexuality, being asexual or not masturbate or no sex. It means a healthy, spiritual sublimation of your sexual energy. Just like saints do it in praying or yogis do it during deep meditation
That is a terrible example... plenty of rich celebrities are accused of "rape." No one knows if thats actually true, whether he was convicted or not. I didn't say remove yourself from the need for sex indefinitely btw, there is a time and place. I'm confused because the way I see it, all the practice of semen retention, no pmo, celibacy that you do on your own requires controlling lust. So what difference does it make if you are in a situation with a woman who you see as a potential partner? All of a sudden you can't control your lust? For example, if I see a triggering photo or video of attractive/naked women... i can redirect my focus to something else rather than lust, like wow thats probably an edited photo and her boobs are fake (just an example of what I would think). So what's the difference if you're seeing a woman in person? I think maybe the problem is that you see sex as something that has no consequences as long as you don't ejaculate. That simply isn't true. I'm just picking your brain btw, I mean no offence by what I'm saying.
Because if you control your lust, you remove it from your mind you achieve a more deep mental state in which reason and intuition can play, being able to analize a person is difficult it requires a six sense. If you are able to do this then it means you are in a more pure mental state. Looking or feeling triggered by porn or any image will simply not happen if you achieve this mental state. I really don't see sex that way, sex requieres a partner with virtue and good energy in order to make it spiritual and enriching. You can check more of my threads to try to understand me. I've written several. But if that is how you perceive me, it's fine I respect the way you think my brother. You are free to make your own conclusions about me. In this one for example I try to explain how I think https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?t...o-has-done-20-years-of-no-ejaculation.311097/ Here is a full guide of my view on sex https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?t...plain-all-my-secrets-and-methods-here.311825/ I think I've tried to explain my point enough if you still don't see it, then we have to agree on disagree. Peace and love All the best for you brother
I see on here an attack by PC Master and Blessed by the Most High against Modern Milarepa I think because Modern Milarepa does not pursue this NoFap lifestyle from a Christian perspective. Modern Milarepa is a Buddhist or Taoist I think? I am not sure But PC Master and Blessed by the Most High, I also consider myself a Christian, however, I have never been able to find a wife at church. Also, the “desire” for a wife as is common within the Christian circles causes lust problems for me. I have come across so many guys at churches who are struggling with porn and masturbation. And there are girls at those churches, too. But the guys and girls don’t just have sex with each other. It’s like this super long drawn out process to get a wife at church I feel like. anyways, just saw this post today and decided to comment. also, by reading the Bible all the time, I have not been able to eliminate my PMO habits. I’m still having a relapse day about one day out of every two weeks. With the Christian religion, it is basically either be a Christian otherwise you are wrong. So I feel like that is why Modern Milarepa was attacked today. PC master and Blessed by the Most High, do you enjoy being celibate? It is very annoying to me. And the girls at church seem to be arrogant, thinking they are “Gods daughters”, while a bunch of the guys at church are basically forced to be eunuchs and sit around with a PMO addiction until one of the women finds them “worthy enough” to have sex with her. Christian churches suck in a lot of ways haha
