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6 years clean: rebooting as the best remedy

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by HMHU, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. HMHU

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    Hey SageWilled. I'm no more knowledgable than you are when it comes to TCM. From Soaring Eagle's texts I've noticed that he uses kidney qi and kidney jing interchangeably and so my understanding of them is very similar to yours; where qi is more easily exhausted while jing is more "dense" so to speak and takes longer to exhaust. That is just my interpretation however, it would be interesting to hear from a TCM expert.
     
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  2. HMHU

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    Hi Kelven. Please find the original Chinese version via the following link: http://www.filedropper.com/file_1966
     
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    For anyone who has found their way to this thread looking for a solution to wet dreams, I have here some ideas to share.

    In the Middle East, premature ejaculation is linguistically conceptualized as a weak, or soft midsection. This 'midsection' refers roughly to the lower back, the pelvic area, and the lower abdomen, or more generally speaking the middle region of the body. Someone who lasts long in bed is said to have a strong, or hard midsection. To have a hard midsection means having strong muscles both on the surface and the deeper core of the middle area of the body.

    Having sex strengthens the midsection. Masturbation on the other hand is actually believed to weaken the midsection.

    I believe exercise number 7 of the eight brocade set is meant to strengthen the midsection, referred to as the kidneys.

    Also, I believe the correct way to do this exercise is:

    1. Slowly bend down and grab the back of your feet above your heels.
    2. Hold yourself in that position for a moment, with your knees straight, and with your hands holding your feet try to pull your upper body as close to your legs as you can without severely straining the tendons behind your knees.
    3. Bend your knees as you release the tension with your hands and arms, and slowly raise your upper body to a slightly tilted-back upright posture with your arms at your sides.

    Do the movements very slowly, and do not pull yourself too far. You will naturally gain flexibility the more you do the exercise.

    In addition to this exercise, I also suggest doing pelvic thrusts in a standing position, as if you are having sex doggy-style. Do not be disappointed if you can't do more than a couple of minutes of thrusting on your first try. Those muscles get strong really fast, and after a week of daily practice, you will be able to thrust on for 5-10 minutes easily.

    If anyone here is willing to undertake this experiment, to perform these two exercises daily for 40 days, and afterwards to report back their wet dream situation, it would be truly helpful I believe. I have a feeling that premature ejaculation and wet dreams are closely tied together, and by treating one, you cure the other.

    As an additional supplement to this regimen, I suggest the traditional Middle Eastern herbal treatment for wet dreams; the seeds of Peganum harmala, commonly known as Syrian rue, taken together with the seeds of Descurainia sophia. Both can be purchased from any Persian grocery store. Syrian rue is called Esphand. Descurainia sophia is called Khakshir.

    Syrian rue seeds are a psychoactive drug and they are the primary component of the mixture. Micro dosing Syrian rue and the harmala alkaloids it contains is a common health trend nowadays, much discussed on drug forums on the internet. Its usage should be researched before being undertaken. Khakshir is not psychoactive, and as such its usage requires no further elaboration, it is the secondary additive in the mixture and a common ingredient of a traditional summer drink in the Middle East today.

    Aside from wet dreams, Syrian rue is also famed for its ability to treat incontinence. I believe it treats the psychological aspect of wet dreams, while the exercises treat the physical aspect.

    I believe people in the Middle East have had problems with lust for a very long time, and apparently their problem became so severe that at some point their wise men imposed the hijab as a means of combating it. Fortunately, they have still retained enough of their ancient traditional remedies for problems brought on by lust to give us a fighting chance IMHO.

    Cheers
     
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  4. Kelven

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    Thank you bro! Cheers! ;)
     
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  5. HMHU

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    Season 26 [Soaring Eagle experience: rebooting fed up period, the issue of excessive sweating and the issue of vision]

    The fed up period associated with rebooting is an issue that cannot be avoided, it is also an issue that must be overcome, many brothers have already reported this issue to me.

    If one frequents the rebooting forums often, then one will discover a phenomenon and that is coming and going of many people. Many people start out with a high level of determination when first starting to reboot, their enthusiasm is at a climax, “mustering up courage during the first battle, courage declines in the second battle, courage is exhausted in the third battle” cannot be helped. Before several weeks have passed these people have altogether disappeared, they have returned to the past. Especially for brothers who have relapsed repeatedly, once relapsed their determination and enthusiasm will take a big hit, after a while of rebooting they no longer feel like continuing, they do not see any hope except for despair and helplessness. In reality, this is the fed up period in rebooting. No matter who you are, there will be a fed up period. This fed up mood is also prevalent in other fields; when you listen to a song for instance, in the beginning you like how it sounds, after listening to it for several weeks you might get tired of it, the feeling that you once harbored towards the song cannot be found again, what remains is weariness and impatience. The same principle applies to diet, in the beginning we like to eat a certain delicacy, if you eat every day you may want to throw up after a while. Still the same works for cell phones; in the beginning we really want to own a certain model, after a while of usage our desire for it wanes, we think that the cell phone is not that special after all, the original feeling of enthusiasm is long gone.

    We should put it like this, human being is an animal that easily finds itself bored.

    In the world of rebooting this is no different, many brothers are tired of studying, tired of rebooting articles, they are too lazy to read and to study and are easily annoyed. Whenever the fed up mood shows up it easily leads to relapses, this is like a squadron of soldiers having depressed morale, many people don’t want to go to battle and want to become deserters, this kind of squadron lacks fighting strength altogether. If you run into the fed up mood, you need to learn to cope with it immediately, adjust the mood right away in order to allow the fighting spirit to regain its fullness. A squadron without morale is like a plate of loose sand, a squadron with morale will have strong cohesiveness, every soldier will be like a tiger coming down the mountain. Buddhist cultivation also pays particular attention to bravely forging ahead, no room for a slack mind and maintaining perseverance. But people can hardly avoid having a tiresome mood, this is because people have a laziness tendency. Therefore, whenever the fed up mood appears, we need to make immediate adjustments, just like a watch that is going too slow, we will need to readjust it to the correct time.

    In the below we will talk about methods of adjustments.

    Truth be told, I have also encountered the fed up mood, but I have re-adjusted it rapidly. Herein lies a concept and that is emotional intelligence (EQ), EQ is the IQ of emotions, it involves self-control, enthusiasm, perseverance as well as self-propelling and the ability to self-encourage. EQ is different from IQ, EQ can be trained after birth, it can be gained through learning. When you have learned to adjust your mood through studying, then you will be in full control of your mood and not be controlled by it. A person’s mood may dominate one’s actions, many brothers relapse due to emotions; the emergence of a bored and depressing mood is immediately channeled into masturbation for relief. If you have a high EQ and knows how to adjust the mood, then emotional relapse will not take place. Therefore, we must learn to adjust our mood, this is especially important in the path of rebooting. When the mood of boredom and depression occurs we will need to make immediate adjustments, when the fed up mood appears we will also need to correct it right away. We need to allow our fighting spirit to pull itself together once again, rebooting properly every day.

    Not only does studying rebooting articles lead one to become fed up but the same applies to answering questions. Jia Xing has reported to me that he has become fed up with answering questions, he has contemplated the thought of retiring. During this time I advised him to emphasize recuperation, to not overstrain himself and to not answer too many questions when he is in a bad mood, otherwise if he attempts to answer questions when the mind is tired he will become even more tired, under this condition one will easily contemplate retiring, to quit whatever he is doing so to speak.

    Studying rebooting articles works in the same way. In the beginning one is full of enthusiasm, you are able to take in a huge quantity of knowledge. But after a certain stage, you may grow tired of studying. When that time comes, you may make some adjustments; decrease the amount of intake, one article per day will suffice or read a couple of cautionary cases every day. When not studying, take care to maintain a high level of vigilance, do not let the temptation demon take any advantages. When this low period has passed you will once again be able to find that optimal rebooting state.

    Specific adjustments method are found in the below summary: (taking jogging as an example, I hope that everybody will have an easier time reaching an understanding)

    1. Whenever the fed up mood comes up, one needs to learn to redistribute the bodily strength, do not overstrain. Just like when running 1500m, when one is unable to run any further, do not stop, run slowly but keep going.
    2. Learn to motivate oneself, motivating oneself is a form of mood adjustment, enabling one to pull together the emotions. This is comparable to when running while at the same time telling yourself: I can do it, I can finish it, I can make it.
    3. When encountering adverse moods, allow oneself to maintain positive and optimistic. Don’t get engrossed in a depressing and decadent mood. This is comparable to when one is no longer able to keep running, you want to give up, a voice is telling you that persistence is equivalent to victory.
    I have mentioned before that during rebooting, sexual fantization is one obstacle, the other obstacle is frequent nocturnal emissions, these are the two tigers on the rebooting path. If you are able to conquer these two obstacles then half the victory is assured. If in addition you are able to assail the mood obstacle, then you will able to reboot more stable and for a longer duration.

    In the below let’s talk about the issue of excessive sweating.

    Brothers have raised the issue of excessive sweating quite frequently in recent days. Although right now we are at the beginning of Autumn, the weather is still very hot, the slightest movement still easily leads to sweating. In sweating, it must be established whether it is due to normal physiological reasons or pathological reasons. Pathological sweating is hyperhidrosis, the reason being that it is an expression the central nervous system being out of tune. According to the TCM point of view, excessive sweating is caused by imbalances in the ying and yang. Excessive sweating at this very moment is main due to seasonal factors, if you sweat just as easily during the other seasons then it is no longer normal, it is a sign that your body will need adjustments. The best would be to seek out a traditional Chinese medicine doctor and combine treatment with Chinese herbal medicine, afterward, persist in rebooting and health cultivation, the body will then slowly adjust itself.


    Actually, when the body has been damaged to a certain degree, 2 conditions would easily appear:
    1. Excessive sweating
    2. No sweating
    Excessive sweating is relatively more common while no sweating is comparatively less common. Illnesses induced by masturbation usually takes on 2 extremes, some people would secrete more oil, others would have dry skin, the former case is relatively more common. Medical science clearly categories sweating: self-sweat, night sweat, head sweat, half body sweat, palm and sole sweats etc. The most commonly seen is self-sweat and night sweat. When it comes to self-sweat, it is when one sweat involuntarily, it normally takes place during the day when it is not all that hot and without the presence of physical activities. Night sweat according to medical science is when sweating while sleeping during the night, upon awakening the sweating stops. In masturbation induced kidney deficiency, regardless if it’s ying or yang deficiency there will be the symptom of excessive sweating. Many people sweat in large quantities as if being washed in the entire body, while in TCM it is mentioned: he who sweats, also losses essence. A large amount of sweating injuries the yang, if the quantity of sweating is very large, it is very unfavorable towards the bodily recovery process. Therefore, brothers suffering from the symptom of excessive sweating would do good to seek timely medical treatment, match treatment with Chinese herbal medicine in order to solve the issue of excessive sweating. I believe that your recovery process will take on another level and that the recovery will be more thorough and stable than it has been previously.

    Some brother would ask, why does it feel good to have sweated following physical exercises when there are not any feelings of discomfort. This only shows that your yang qi has not been damaged to a certain extent, when the injury is serious and you sweat profusely following physical exercises, it is very unfavorable to the health. Therefore, when the body is weak it is recommended to cultivate stillness, exercise will mainly take on the form of walking. The mentioned principle also shares similarities with nocturnal emissions; many people enjoy a good health, one nocturnal emission will not bring about any feelings of discomfort. But some people have sexually indulged in the past, if they would have a nocturnal emission nowadays, symptoms would immediately appear and they would feel uncomfortable. This being the principle, once the damage has been sustained to a certain degree, many things are not as one has previously imagined them to be. Of course, sweating in moderation is also beneficial to the body, it enables the expulsion of evil toxins, but excessive sweating will be damaging to the body. When many people increase their exercise load they would experience nocturnal emission during the night and a return of the symptoms, therefore, when the body is weak, emphasize stillness cultivation. Once the yang qi has gradually become more abundant, moderate exercises may be undertaken, this will be beneficial to the recovery process. I would recommend everybody to make adjustments according to their bodily reactions following exercising. Some brothers would not experience any discomforts after exercising, in this case, they may continue to exercise while paying attention to the intensity, more is not always better. Other brothers may experience discomfort after having exercised or the re-emergence of symptoms, this condition suggests that you are not yet suited for this type of exercises, one may choose stillness cultivation, decrease the number of physical exercises, do some Eight-Brocade qigong, take walks, once the kidney qi has been accumulated into abundance, slowly pick up physical exercises from there while paying attention to moderation.
     
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  6. HMHU

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    As to the many symptoms induced by masturbation, I recommend to actively treat all of them and not blindly to request you to reboot and cultivate the health without treatment. Things that should be treated are to be treated, combine treatment with rebooting and health cultivation and the recovery process will be relatively speedy. Of course, there are those brothers who do not take any medicines but rely purely on rebooting and health cultivation and have recovered in this way, these brothers usually have great insight into health cultivation. When one has made the proper efforts into health cultivation, this is also very beneficial to the recovery process. Although many brothers have undergone active treatment they have not paid attention to rebooting and health cultivation, treatment under this case will not be ideal. Because recovery depends on 30% treatment and 70% cultivation, health cultivation is the real key. Famous physicians in the past have always given advice to their patients such as: stay away from sexual activities, moderation in diet, arise and sleep early, do not overstrain, etc. The reason to why many brothers are unable to recover from chronic prostatitis after a long time of treatment is because they have not understood rebooting and health cultivation, tens of thousands of treatment fees will not make them better. If you really understood the importance of rebooting and health cultivation then the result will be totally different. Chronic prostatitis that I’ve had for over a decade is completely recovered, tests are all normal and symptoms have disappeared. Therefore, if symptoms are present, treatment is needed but more importantly one needs to cultivate, or else full recovery will be difficult. Many people have temporarily recovered due to the use of medicines, once they indulge the symptoms immediately returns.

    Lastly let’s talk about the issue of vision.

    [太素脉]: The eyes contain all the essence of the body, if the body is not healthy then the eyes will not have spirit.

    TCM also mentions: The essence of the five viscera and six bowels are all contained in the eyes! And so a person’s eyes is the reflection of the state of one’s five viscera and six bowels. In addition, the kidneys conceal the essence and hold the quintessence of the essence from the five viscera and six bowels. Therefore, when masturbation has injured the kidney qi, the following changes will easily appear with regards to the eye region of a person:
    1. Lack of spirit in the eyes.
    2. Lack of light in the eyes.
    3. Muddy eyeballs.
    4. Bloodshot eyes.
    5. Shrunken eyes.
    6. Eyelid changes.
    7. Dark circles and bags under the eyes.
    8. Sluggish eyes, ineffective eye movements.
    9. Hollowed eye sockets.
    10. Decrease in vision.
    11. Eye floaters.
    12. Conjunctivitis.
    Among them, the issue of vision is of relative more concern among brothers, especially for those who are students. The decrease in vision is indeed a very big disturbance. There are many reasons for decreased vision, details can be found below:
    1. Poor viewing habits.
    2. Overstraining of the eyes.
    3. Genetics.
    4. Addicted to masturbation.
    5. Illnesses with the eyes.
    Masturbation should not directly cause a decrease in vision but indirectly causes it. Although many people such as elementary school students do not masturbate, they still suffer from impaired vision and wear glasses, this conditions is induced by genetics and poor viewing habits. Yet some people start off with excellent vision but suffer from a serious decline in their vision after becoming addicted to masturbation, the indirect reason should be considered in these cases. By also including poor viewing habits and the overstraining of the eyes, vision issues will easily arise. Through rebooting and health cultivation, the state of the vision has hopes to improve, discomfort in the eyes will also be alleviated. If vision issue is very bothersome for you, laser adjustments in the future may be considered.

    Normally, by being persistent in rebooting and cultivating the health, a person’s eyes will once again regain spirit, determination and brilliance. Brilliance is a very subtle feeling, just like the luminance of a light bulb, some light bulbs are bright while others are dim. While a person has an abundance of yang qi, this is reflected in the brightness and brilliance of the eyes. On the other hand, there is the lack of vitality and dimness. If you observe children you will notice that not only do they have great skin, an obvious quality besides it is their bright and spirited eyes, this gives out a clear and adorable feeling. But the eyes of grown-ups is very much inferior, on one hand, their bodies have already been leaking, on the other hand their bodies have taken injuries due to their lifestyle habits such as smoking, staying up late at night and sitting for long periods at a time, these are naturally reflected in the eyes. Back when I was addicted to masturbation, my eyes lacked spirit and determination, it was a feeling of lack of self-confidence. Nowadays I’m totally different, my eyes have once again regained spirit through rebooting and health cultivation, I’m more confident now and is able to look people in the eye.

    I recommend brothers who suffer from vision issues to establish good viewing habits, limit the time that you spend on the internet, keep a good posture and distance when reading and studying, pay attention to rest. Afterward, one must cut out masturbation, learn to cultivate the health, increase the intake of nutrients. In this way, the issue of declining vision will become effectively controlled.
     
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  7. Rhotkochapel

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    Guys, it's 6th day of wet dream free. But nearly every night I dream sexual things. How to get rid of that? And always near the wet dream but I wake up and stop it.
     
  8. In the near sub-consciouss mind there is still lust. When that is too strong you hae nocturnal fall. You purified a little and made 'some space' so to say. Keep up good work.
     
  9. GermanReceptor

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    Thanks to HMHU for the new season translation.
     
  10. Rhotkochapel

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    7th day without wet dream today guys. So that is my record in past one month. I am striving for minimum 2 weeks without wet dream.
     
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    I had a weird sexualdream a few days ago, i was on a 25+ days streak. It was a demon unveiling different woman bodies, and i was touching them as he pulled the cloth. We got to a couple, both laying like the other woman but also holding hands..and i went over her and tried to..you know what. I was uncouncious i was dreaming but when the moment of ejaculation came i woke up...put myself in perfect pose, exaled all the air from my lungs(tried to use the knowledge from one of the links sagewilled shared), i also did like a kegel trying to stop the pulsations and cuming. It helped ...i stoped half way, and i ejaculated far less than other times i had wet dream.
     
  12. Rhotkochapel

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    Yes, but it's still a wet dream. I also had sexual dream last night but I managed to stop it. I think those wet dreams stoppings need practice, there were some situations where I stopped half same as you. Do you feel weekend? How do you feel?
    I am so foolish that I am not doing those concentration exercises and I just sense that I should start doing them.
     
  13. David stone

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    No man..in the past 3 months i had about 1 max 2 wetdreams/month. Sexual dreams i had more but some of them were luicid and i ve been able to stop. I did not feel weak after the last wetdream. Still i have 200+days without concious orgasm/ejac. ...that must give me some resources.

    My practice to avoid wetdream is : cold shower in morning, hand climbing feet exercise before going to sleep, and when waking at night ( aroun 4am) to go pee. That night i woke up at 4am but i was too lazy to go pee...and wetdream happened in the hours of the morning.
    I also sleep on left side, avoid cocacola before bed, avoid dweling on anger emotions.

    Belive it or not when i first got to 100dys last year..i had 60+ days without loseing semen. I was sleeping 6h max and felt fuking powerful.
     
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  14. Rhotkochapel

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    60 days without ejalucation? I assume that feels good but also kinda hard. Today is 2 weeks since my last wet dream, and it's hard. I live in dormitory and I feel not that much concentration and a bit lustful thoughts.
     
  15. Rhotkochapel

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    Guuuys, how is your reboot going?
     
  16. romlel

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    I find no-PMO relatively easy but sometimes I suffer attacks from wet dreams. This weekend... 3 nights in a row, I manage to wake before the fourth time. I m doing the kidney exercice thought.
    I think it's because of my chronic pain( the tension goes also into my pe*** my unconscious should be thinking I m excited or something : / )
    and you?
     
  17. GermanReceptor

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    When will there be a new season out?
     
  18. u376

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    attach season 26 with complete file too
     
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    Hello has anyone here found the kidney strengthening to be beneficial?
     
  20. Its always interesting to read about guys who are trying to stop wet dreams when there are other guys on this site who are trying to figure out how to start having them!

    I'm of the latter variety and had my first post-puberty wet dream a week ago. So, if I were to come over to this side, I could say that I'm currently at 7 days since my last one but that my longest streak so far is . . . thirty years! :cool:

    All jokes aside, I appreciate you guys sharing the struggles of frequent wet dreams and tips for avoiding them. It is quite possible that waking up with wet sheets will get old really, really fast and I will be needing help to stop. Also definitely worth considering the physiological effects of semen loss and how a partial release is usually less debilitating than a full release.

    Plus, the more we share, the more we learn and understand the way that our bodies work. Definitely a good thing.
     
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