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6 years clean: rebooting as the best remedy

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by HMHU, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. MK10

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    @HMHU I have a problem. I just completed my final fap with the intention of starting Nofap. But just as I was about to orgasm I held it back and a few drops of fluid leaked out. I orgasmed 10 seconds later but the orgasm wasn't pleasurable and barely noticeable also very little cum came out. I fear some is still trapped inside waiting to be released and may cause health problems. Should I relapse?
     
  2. HMHU

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    First of all, I'm not a rebooting authority by any stretch of the imagination so please take my words with a grain of salt.

    Intuitively, it seems to me that the anxiety of trapped semen is likely to cause you more harm than the harm from fapping once more to relieve you of the worry. If you are the kind of person that is likely to dwell on this then, by all means, relieve yourself of that burden. I only say this because I see future relapses as quite likely for your particular case, given my impression of your state of mind; one simply does not masturbate with the intention that it will be the last one. A final word of advice, if one absolutely has to fap for whatever reason, then it is better to do it wholeheartedly and immerse yourself in it rather than doing it unenthusiastically.
     
  3. David stone

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    I have the same advice as HMHU. A bit latter tho, I assume u already relapsed. You should relapse if that last event bothers you. Or you could wait a day or two and see what happens. Start PMO hard mode brother - its the real deal. Good luck and relax. And btw it wont cause you health problems, i guarantee. anyway from your story I understand that u kinda was just edging and u sliped over. stop that edging bro, long term it will cause relapses by accident and also buildup of fluid in prostate.
    HMHU - respect brother, that last season with ugliness was great, i cant wait for the next ones...
     
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  4. Eddie108

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    @HMHU Thank you so much brother for taking your valuable time to share this wisdom and your own experience.

    I'm keen student of Ayurveda and Indian philosophy and i find many similarities between TCM and ayurveda.

    Ayurvedic medicine preceedes TCM so it is natural to conclude that Ayurveda would have more extensive knowledge regarding sexual abstinence and perils of overindulgence in sex.

    Here are few practical examples of simple and crucial advice which i have found to be present in vast body of knowledge of Ayurvedic medicine which I've found to be lacking in TCM.

    1. If you observe some painting painted by an artist who is in depressed state,for example, the emotion which you will inevitably experience as an observer will be emotions belonging to a darker spectrum.

    Same will happen in the case of watching horror movies, association with degraded characters, listening to abominable and disturbing 'music' etc.

    Indian vedas teach that if we ingest food prepared by impure lusty characters , especially grains, which happens in most restaurants, fast food joints etc. , we are bound to become contaminated by lust and indulge in sex without even meaning to do so consciously.

    Another important point is that if we eat flesh of a pig which is an animal which readlily indulges in sex with its own mother, sister, daughter- naturaly, we will hardly be able to control our senses to any respectable degree.

    There are myriad practical examples lule this to be found in ayurveda and in indian philosophy which ive not been able to find anywhere else and which i've found absolutely indispensable in my journey of spiritual evolution.

    One book which i wholeheartedly recomend which can be downloaded for free online is "Bhagavad Gita as it is " by Swami Prabhupada who uncompromisingly instructed all of his disciples, married or unmarried, to practice complete celibacy except for sex for the sake of making children and only after almost entire day of intense prayer and meditation.

    Such high but realistic standard is rarely taught by so called gurus whose only desire is to plunder the wealth of their blind and naive followers.

    Furthermore, only the Bhagavad Gita teaches which kind of foods are conducive for sense control and for spiritual realisation.

    This is certainly the most valuable book that I've ever came across in my quest for pure living and for elevation of spirit.

    5000 years old, Bhagavad Gita as it is was daily read and admired by great minds such as Einstein, Emerson, Gandhi, George Bernard Shaw and many many orhers.

    Dear brothers, be sure to check it out.
     
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  5. Eddie108

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    1. In relation to Ayurveda being lot older than TCM please consider this: Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA: "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."
    I say this only to encourage everone here who is on the path of pure living and deper spiritual realisation to dive into open secrets of Indian Vedic tradition. Thanks for reading my posts.
     
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  6. Eddie108

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  7. HMHU

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    Thank you Eddie for sharing the ancient wisdom of Ayurveda with us. This is a new area for me and I look forward to reading more about it, starting with "Bhagavad Gita as it is".
     
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  8. truthseeker17

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    @HMHU
    Your work is amazing!

    I am a Muslim so it was after my marriage when my sex life began. I have to say I endulged in it alot and felt even so much better, emotionally and physically. However I am suffering from PE... Because of PE I indulge more in sex so I make sure my partner is satisfied. Yet I do believe that indulging alot in sex does impact your aging and other stuff which you described.

    I also believe men have become weak compared to 1500 years ago for example. It is party based of the low-quality food we eat but mostly influenced by our sexualized society. When you hear about men having sex with like 50+ women a night long time ago, it seems impossible right now. How do you think about this?

    I would like to know what the period of endulging in sex would be to maintain health and strength. And if there is any possiblity to cure PE. Sometimes I feel like I have no PE at all. I have no idea how that happens.
     
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  9. Eddie108

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    Thank YOU again brother for your hard work and dedication. Value which you provide here is nothing short of amazing. I wish you all the best on your journey and i cant wait for your next installment.

    Have fun reading Bhagavad Gita as it is.
     
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  10. HMHU

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    Hi truthseeker! Indeed men have become weaker, there was a study done which showed a 50% decrease in sperm count over the last 40 years. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/health/male-sperm-count-problem.html) While I think having sex with 50+ women is technically possible, I highly doubt that the same man has ejaculated that many times in a single night.

    The period of indulging in sex is a tricky question to answer because that depends on what your goal is and the expectation from your spouse. Suppose that you abstain from sex altogether and neglect your sex life, that may create inharmonies in your relationship with your wife, this in itself is unhealthy and so there is trade-off involved. In many spiritual disciplines, abstinence from sex is required in order to deepen one's spiritual cultivation. A question to ask yourself is what is your spiritual goal. If your PE is a result of overindulgence then I would highly recommend curbing the frequency of indulgences to a level that both you and your wife are comfortable with. Hope my response helped!
     
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  11. Hi man, thank you for doning this incredible work. It has truly turned my life around when other tips and tricks only ended in endless relapses. I don't understand though what you're supposed to feel in the stretching exercise that reduces wet dreams. I only feel my thighs stretching.
     
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  12. HMHU

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    Hi SwedishViking, or should I say tjena broder! I'm glad that your efforts have benefited you. The stretching feeling can be a bit uncomfortable because you are supposed to really stretch the tendons, it should feel sore when you do it and might even hurt a bit. Once you have grown accustomed to it you are supposed to increase the pressure even more. If you can feel your thighs stretching then that's a good sign and you should be doing it correctly, just remember that it's not supposed to feel comfortable. When you are comfortable then it's time to increase the pressure by bending down even lower or to straighten the legs more.
     
  13. I see we are both Swedish, Tack bror!
     
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  14. HMHU

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    Season 11 [Soaring Eagle experience: The adjustment of mentality after relapse, non-liquidation of semen, and the penis length issue]

    Every day in the rebooting forums we can see brothers that have relapsed, the posts that they make following a relapse is always marked with great remorse. Some brothers would call relapses “battlefield casualty”, I think this is a very good description; rebooting is like waging a battle, we are all brothers in the same trench. We are saddened by the sight of another brother becoming a casualty, this should, of course, spur us into rebooting and to maintain our vigilance. The enemy camp is constantly shelling us with pink shells, the rebooting articles are our bulletproof armor. We must increase our efforts in studying rebooting articles and in doing so increase our awareness and the level of our determination. If you should let down your guard, the next battlefield casualty might be you. When we see inappropriate pictures or videos we must immediately dodge them, we must exercise the same caution to porn as we do towards tigers and incoming arrows, we must be equipped with this kind of awareness. To reboot for good, the awareness must be strong which is obtained through studies. Awareness and vigilance give us the hope to successfully reboot.

    For those brothers that have relapsed, there is no need to be discouraged, nobody can manage to reboot in one try and there will be many failures before success. Before I my successful rebooted I had also failed many times, so many times that I have lost count. I was unable to get out of the vicious circle for well over a decade because at the time I was in a state of ignorance with nobody to guide me and nobody to tell me what to do. Afterwards, having taken up rebooting studies my determination increased. Roughly after a year of studying rebooting articles and health cultivation, my awareness increased by leaps and bounds, through it I gained deeper thinking and understanding. It is under these circumstances that I had successfully rebooted.

    There are 2 types of errors that are easy to make during reboot:
    1. Rebooting without studying about rebooting
    2. Rebooting without cultivating the health
    Rebooting without studying is the same as brute force and blindly rebooting which both guarantees failure. This is because the level of determination has not been raised; after the hibernation period for desire is over, we arrive at the peak period for relapse, once there the urge to relapse is irresistible which is often followed by multiple relapses, all previous efforts have been washed away. I have mentioned the importance of rebooting studies countless times in the previous articles. If you don’t study you won’t be in the knowing, your awareness will not increase and expand. Once you have reached a certain stage in your studies your determination will rise, with the determination you are able to defeat the temptation demon, or else every encounter with the temptation demon will result in defeat. It is hard to avoid starting off from a low level when we first begin our reboot, suppose that the temptation demon is at level 100 but your determination is only at level 15, how do could you resist the temptation? Only through studying about reboot can we raise the level of determination, once the level has been raised, temptation demon can no longer budge us. To relapse is not scary, the scary thing is to not study because the result from that is continuous relapses and our inability to escape from the vicious circle.

    Rebooting without cultivating the health is also commonly seen among brothers. Awareness about health cultivation is precisely what many brothers lack. The awareness is also obtained through studying about rebooting. Studying video lectures given by famous gurus and reading health cultivation literature is very helpful towards the recovery of the body. Many people reboot and neglect in maintaining a healthy lifestyle, they still stay up, sit for long durations and smoke, they do not emphasize the management of emotions, for these people the prospect for recovery is not optimistic. Other brothers while rebooting, exercises actively, lives a healthy lifestyle and do not stay up nor engage in long sittings, this is the quick route towards recovery. Indulgence is to cut down the health, rebooting is to maintain the health, however, rebooting is only the first step towards cultivating the health. Rebooting alone is not enough, it is far from enough. This is because there is more than one way to injure the kidney qi; staying up, long sittings, anger, cold beverages, exposure to AC and etc all hurts the kidney qi.

    TCM specifically talks about the 5 strains and 7 impairments. 5 strains: prolonged gazing strains the blood, prolonged lying strains the qi, prolonged sitting strains the muscles, prolonged standing strains the bones, prolonged moving strains the tendons.
    7 impairments: overeating impairs the spleen, anger impairs the liver, intensive weightlifting, long-term sitting, and moisture impairs the kidneys, cold beverages impair the lungs, worrying and overthinking impairs the heart, wind, rain cold and heat impairs the appearance, fear injures the mind.

    The 5 strains and 7 impairments should be avoided. Health cultivation is a deep discipline and the effort is made little by little, one must take care of all aspects. Once your awareness in health cultivation has been increased, this will be very beneficial for a better recovery of the body; because you will know what to do and what not to do, all actions that hurt the kidney qi will be avoided at all costs.

    The different types of relapse:
    1. Courage increases with each failure, the will to fight is still strong
    2. Self-esteem takes a blow, motivation is decreased
    3. The thought to flee comes up, becomes a deserter
    Brothers following a relapse should properly repent but don’t be too hard on yourself, don’t take on too much pressure, everything may begin anew. Although you have relapsed it’s still possible to pick up and read rebooting articles, as long as we persist in our effort to study we will finally come to that one day where the determination is sufficient, the habit of PMO is naturally shrugged off. This is like climbing a mountain, as long as we persist we will reach the top, many people due to fatigue will quit halfway, those that really carry the courage and determination will persist into the end, they will never quit rebooting lightly.

    Through my research, many brothers give up because they are not sufficiently aware of the returning symptoms (Translator’s note: returning symptoms are the symptoms that we had experienced before rebooting) following quitting PMO. Once an addiction is laid aside there will always be symptoms, this especially applies to PMO. By persisting in rebooting, taking care of one’s schedules, actively exercising, returning symptoms will disappear. Although many people have rebooted for 6 months to a year, even then there could be returning symptoms, when they do appear this is very normal and there is no need to worry. Even healthy people will have times when they are not feeling well, this is related to external factors and is also related to the changing of the seasons; the level of yang energy in the body is different in every season, it’s also easy to experience returning symptoms following nocturnal emissions, this why it’s important to try to decrease its frequency. In addition, those they have wives or girlfriends will have an easier time to waver. This is because having a woman is an obstacle towards rebooting, with a woman, bodily symptoms will have difficulty in recovering. There is also a group of brothers whose understanding towards the bad fruit of masturbation is not yet deep enough, they still subscribe to the moderation theory, these people will have an easier time throwing in the towel.

    Below let’s talk about the issue of the non-liquidation of semen.

    This issue appears relatively often and is also relatively common. The ejaculated substance resembles jello or some kind of crystallized substance. When spotted it would give many brothers a scare and causes them to panic. Actually, this non-liquidation phenomenon of semen is very common, every day in the rebooting forums similar questions are raised. The main illness that causes the non-liquidation of semen is prostatitis, this will affect the fertility function and the quality of the sperm. Upon medical examinations, many brothers would encounter weak sperm, dead sperm, deformed sperm or even no sperm.

    According to TCM, the non-liquidation of semen is mainly induced by the following illnesses:
    1. Insufficient prenatal kidney yang energy, or a loss of postnatal kidney yang energy, severe and prolonged illness, damaged kidney yang energy
    2. External pathogenic cold and damaged kidney yang energy both causes the semen to congeal
    3. Overindulgence in alcohol and sex, overuse of the mind, the fire manifestation of the five emotions
    4. A regular spicy diet, sweet, greasy, alcohol, the inner accumulation and heat and moist, exogenous dampness
    5. Excessive intake of cold beverages injures the yang energy of the spleen, or the injuring of yang energy of the spleen by other illnesses, weakened spleen reaches to the kidneys
    6. Weakened qi and blood stasis or the constitution of blood stasis, blockage in the essence chamber causes the the semen to congeal
    The type that is normally encountered is number 3 in the above: sexual overindulgence. Overindulgence will easily lead to these type of issues. Once we have begun to masturbate it is near impossible to stop, seldom is there a person that is able to practice moderation, this “moderation” is also unknown to most people. (Translator’s note: unknown not as unheard of but as not knowing how much is too much) So one must completely cut out the evil habit of masturbation, or else it will be exceedingly difficult to heal the body, fertility functions will all become affected. During my time in the rebooting forums, I have come across countless cases of masturbation induced infertility. Only through quitting masturbation, cultivating the health and the kidney qi will there be hope to recover the sperm quality, otherwise, we are totally wasted, what can be done about it!?

    Below let’s talk about the issue of penis length, this is a sensitive topic. Men are very conscious of penis length, the common perception is that the bigger the better. Men with big penises feel self-pride, those with small penises feel inferior. I use to think like this after I have come to a certain understanding I no longer think that way. There are mysterious principles behind the length of the penis and it is not simple as one would imagine. If the understanding has not arrived, few people will be able to understand this principle and its inner workings. Today I will discuss this topic.

    The penis has an orientation towards the liver because the liver governs the muscles. Many brothers report a smaller penis after they have started to masturbate and the lack of self-confidence. In reality, masturbation does affect the development of the penis, because the liver and kidney share the same source and masturbation hurt both organs. The penis is oriented towards the liver and it, therefore, affects the length of the penis. Though there are other factors such as genetics that plays a role in the length of the penis. If you have good genes then the effect of masturbation will not be great. If you have poor genes and you combine it with the evil habit of masturbation, then the chance to encounter a smaller penis will be relatively high.

    12 cm is normally an adequate length of the penis, 10 cm will also do. There is no need to have an oversized penis, an oversized penis will incur evil more easily. It is mentioned in the book “Liu Zhuang Shen Xiang”: the owner of a big penis is lowly, he provokes viciousness and thus must be lowly. (Translator’s note: the reader should also take the cultural aspect into consideration as the average length of penises differ between countries). This is in contrary to everyone’s perceptions in that bigger is better, bigger is cooler, bigger is strong and good, this is, in fact, a relatively shallow understanding, why is it that an oversized penis is not good? Why is it that the man with a large penis is lowly? This touches upon TCM. Without understanding the medical principles, misunderstandings will be propagated, one may enter the grave without knowing the principles.

    I once compared masturbation to shopping, I would spend kidney qi in exchange for fleeting moments of vile pleasure. Normally, the man with the big penis will have a relatively strong “purchasing power”, his sexual desire will be relatively strong. From the surface, this might be a good thing, but misfortune is disguised in blessing. The more vile pleasure that is purchased, the more kidney qi is spent, in this way the probability of a collapse in health is greater. Although the person may look strong today, due to overindulgence, he will meet his fate; the chance of premature ejaculation, impotence, and various bodily symptoms. Therefore the saying goes, desire should not be strong, the stronger the more damage. He with a big penis incurs evil, this evil points to the evil in sexual indulgence. The first chapter [Ancient Innocence Theory] of the TCM classic [Inner Canon of the Yellow Emperor] specifically mentions about the harm of sexual indulgence. Famous doctors from the past have had over a thousand years of experience to draw upon, they deeply understood the danger of sexual debauchery. I have seen many medical cases both written in the past and in the present, there are too many cases of collapsed health as a result of sexual indulgence, as many as there are strands of hair on a cow. If you thoroughly understood the danger of sexual debauchery, then comparing that to the danger from severe flood and wild beasts is not an exaggeration. When your kidney qi is in the abundance, you will not feel very much. But when your kidney qi has been depleted to a certain level, the evil fruits will become ever more apparent, and with the increase in age, illnesses of different forms will come knocking on the door. Abundant kidney qi wards off evil, depleted kidney qi is the source of a multitude of illnesses!

    How is it that “he with the large penis lords over the lowly”? Because in TCM: to the above, kidneys are connected to the brain. Masturbation hurts the kidneys and so it must also injure the brain. Concentration, memory, and willpower will all deteriorate in different degrees. When a person is deficient in the brain then success will be hard to come by in all areas of life, being lord of the lowly is then inevitable. Those that are really successful are often strictly self-disciplined. Those that lack discipline may enjoy success for a while but the success will not be long-lived. (Translator’s note: the translation of this chapter was not without discomfort. My apologies if you were offended by the contents.)

    Those that have acquired the Tao will in no circumstances think that a strong sexual desire is a good thing. In TCM: excessive desire follows depletion. When this is allowed to develop we have premature ejaculation and impotence and all forms of sicknesses, this is then called “the mighty dragon in shame” (Translator’s note: the mighty dragon is the excessive desire). The one that has received the Tao will absolutely not think that a big penis is a good thing, in the contrary, he will think that it’s a bad thing, as to why that is, I believe the reader will have understood after reading this article.
     
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  15. SeriousPanda

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    @HMHU Thank you again. and looking forward to chapter 12 <3
     
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  16. Man Youre Doing a great job of providing ancient education to the lost youths.Thanks for all.My anxiety of small Penis is gone. THANKS
     
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    Best part of the forum ( atm ).
     
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    This is maybe a bit off topic but if you think a bit more seriously it isn't.

    question is: Did anybody hear for sixth Tibetan rite - which use is to transmute sexual energy.
    All these seasons are really helpful but I didn't find anything regarding overcoming sexual urge.
    If one does not masturbate or don't have sex what will he/she do with sexual energy?
    Sexual energy should not be repressed it should be transmuted.
    But I think it is really important to talk about that because I guess a lot of people have problems with strong sexual urge.
    This tibetan rite is a exercise but I am not sure I am doing it correctly...
     
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  19. HMHU

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    Hi Rhotkochapel! You raise an extremely good point. While the author hasn't addressed the issue of sexual transmission yet, I believe it will likely be addressed in the chapters to come (over 100 remaining). Maybe you could share the sixth Tibetan rite with the readers so that we could learn more about it? Many thanks.
     
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  20. Innervision

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    I'm happy to see the translator rapidly discounting the final lines of the last chapter, with such a racist and stupid theory about races and QI stuff. For a moment there was an impulse to drop off all the words that our author is sharing. Hope that it was only a little deviance on the nice ideas he is sharing with us! Nonetheless, great work @HMHU in translating the texts for us! Thanks!
     

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