7 day testosterone spike then dip?

Dont think there is any scientific evidence to prove it and your just making it easy for yourself by saying 10 days and you may fap. With that attitude mate you will make it 10 and you WILL fap. Stop trying to give yourself an excuse mate or you will never break the habit

 

Just my two cents worth, but I agree 100% with jw88's idea of judicious MO 'fasting' as opposed to trying to endure a full on famine.

We all face the choice of whether to go for hard mode, or to accept not-so-hard mode as a realistic target ('soft-mode' doesn't sound quite right here). I've opted for not-so-hard-mode (NSHM) on the basis that if I don't allow myself a quick release after a week or so of no fapping (and no sex), the pressure build up starts to become acutely uncomfortable, both physically and psychologically. And it's under those conditions that I fear relapsing into a PMO binge.

This might be because I lack willpower, but my big priority here is to permanently wean myself off porn, not to quit MO. It might sound perverse, but I'm convinced that a quick five-fingered shuffle once a week is actually helping me to stay on track.

Perhaps worth bearing in mind that while we Homo sapiens have been merrily fapping away for the last few hundred thousand years, it's only in the last decade and half (The Early Broadbandian Period) that our previously innocuous habits have become monstrous.

SK

 

The reason im against it is because it is putting a guaranteed timescale on fapping. Say if on day 15 he feels horny and wants a fap. He doesnt because its not the 10 day mark. On day 20 he doesnt feel like having one but does so anyway just because he is allowed to that day. I know the addiction well, if you think you can, then you WILL just because you have already rationalised to do so.
Im not saying he should abstain completely, but by saying every ten days then I think its just a get out clause

 

After you get rid of your addiction, then yeah, it is actually a GREAT way to do this. As you said, just stick to certain rules:

- Testosterone spikes around your 7th day. If you want to be at your best on saturdays, then masturbate on sundays.
- Sticking to your rhythm is the safest. If you decide to skip a week, then that is fine. But REMAIN IN CONTROL! Masturbate on the day that you scheduled. This also helps protecting you from porn.
- Don't use porn in any form! No video's, no pictures, no images in your head. Just masturbate to "rub that quick one out" so you can have your weekly testosterone spike.
- This can only be safely done after you have conquered your addiction. The masturbation isn't that enjoyable, and only functions as a quick release to keep your weekly testosterone spikes.

A lot of people may disagree with me, and you may feel free to do so. But to me personally, the above schedule worked after I conquered my addiction 2 years back. I didn't look at porn, was socialable as ever, had great energy that spent into things like sports, and in the weekend my testosterone spikes helped me have succes with women.

Only try this if you have proven yourself that you don't need PMO anymore, and I am not talking about 1 week without PMO . You have got to be in control and be the better version of "you".

To me personally, the above schedule worked great after I conquered my PMO addiction in the past. And yes, I know I have relapsed, but the relapse had to do because of things that happened within my relationship. During above schedule I have never even thought of watching porn.

I would love to read people's opinions.

 

What's great about this thread is that it's offering different alternatives for accomplishing different goals. That's good in the sense that if you know you've failed one way, here's a different way to try, but it's all dependent on your goals.

My personal belief and desire is to stop all PMO forever! But I'm also being realistic in the attainment of that eventual goal. Know what you want first, then figure out the best way to get there.

This forum and community gives us the practical tools we can use to prosper and succeed. We will succeed my fellow men. We can and we will!

 

jw88, I think it depends on what your goal here is. If your primary goal is to maintain those weekly testosterone spikes, and not return to "normal" mode, then I'd say stick with your 10 day plan for a while and see how it goes.

If, however, your plan is to be free from PMO, or at least be free from P and not let MO be such a habit, then it may be best, as other guys have suggested here, to at least work up to a "hard mode" total break from PMO for a while. But I know that that's really tough, and personally, your 10 day plan may be a great way to start. I know that for myself, if I set too lofty a goal to start out with, I am unlikely to reach it--the goal will seem too far off and too impossible on those days when I am super horny.

But if your goal is to BE super horny, ha, then you need to find the rhythm of your own body with that. You are not a machine, there is no factory standardization, just averages and typical day ranges. 7 days is the spike for a lot of guys. But some will peak at 5, some will take longer. You will have to just be self-aware enough to find your own T spike. And that may even vary some, week to week, based on how you are feeling emotionally, how much exercise and rest you are getting, how stressed you are, etc. Again, we're not machines, ha.

But if your goal is more of an abstaining one, then I like slip_kid's plan, and agree with his thought that:

But I also agree with Discipline, that perhaps that weekly, functional release might be the best plan to adopt aI]after[/I] you have been PMO free for a while, to give your brain a chance to "re-wire" its patterns more. Otherwise, it may be too easy to just revert into old habits if you have a slip up.

But, even on your 10 Day plan, it may be that, like chris33 has experienced, that say you get to Day 10 and you really aren't that horny, so you decide to go hold off for another 2 days or so, and then reevaluate. That has worked for me in the past, where my plan was to abstain for a week, but I kept on extending it and ended up going for two or so. You just have to stick to your new commitment, for however long you decide to abstain again for. That way, you are strengthening your willpower, as well.

So, it all depends on your goal I think. To maintain that horny spike rhythm, just "listen" to your body and experiment to see what MB frequency interval seems to maintain that the best. (And remember that just because your T-level spikes one day, doesn't mean that it's completely gone after that, it will be high for a while as it tapers off. Though, then again, it's a hormone we are talking about, so that spike is kind of like a big picture average really, bec it DOES spike up and down day to day, even hour to hour, as I think we've all noticed here!) But if your goal is to avoid PMO for a while, then know that returning to that "normal" feeling again is actually a blessing, because it is easier to resist PMO when you aren't popping boners every 25 minutes, lol.

 

I think @BullseyeChris had it spot on!