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8 Days Free But Now I Just Want Some P

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by DarkTunnel, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. DarkTunnel

    DarkTunnel Fapstronaut

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    So this is my first time doing nofap and I completed my goal of 7 days, went a little further with 8 days, but now I feel like a good porn session with a nice orgasm would do me a world of good right now. I know it doesn't make rational sense in the long run and I should be trying to rewire my brain away from porn but right now I'm living in the present not 6-12 months from now. And the present sucks and I need a pick-me-up. I am trying to better my life and I did get a new hobby, I'm taking my car to get fixed tomorrow and I'm looking for a new job. I'm even trying to date. But right fucking now I need some stimulation. It's not even really about the urges anymore, it's about the lack of stimulation I feel. And I'm not saying I plan to start jerking off every day again but just one day and then go on another abstinence run, taking it as far as I can handle each time.

    At what point are you just torturing yourself so you don't feel guilty about resetting your counter publicly on this forum? And even if you do abstain for hundreds of days, there's a thread by the administrator of this forum that basically under-minds just staying free of porn. And I see a lot of elitists trying to force their views on others. A lot of people are nice here but there are also a lot of "I'm right you're wrong" type people who just want to sound superior.

    With that said, after my 8 Days is official (a few hours), I'll make the decision to PMO or not. If you have a problem with that attitude then I suggest just don't reply because I don't care. But to those people who always offer encouragement and support of others I think you're awesome. :D
     
  2. godgirl04

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    You know I am starting day one tomorrow with my best guy friend, and it is a daily challenge. He was at day ten, and took his eyes of the end goal and messed up. So my advice is to keep your end goal in mind, of that of wanting to stop completely, and try to work towards that.
     
  3. VanillaMochi

    VanillaMochi Fapstronaut

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  4. Poblano

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    First of all congratulations on meeting your goal.
    I think the truth is your opinion is the only one that really matters. So you have to answer your own question whether you want to PMO or not. Maybe you can imagine forward 2 different scenarios. How are you gonna feel after you have a Porn session and masturbate? How are you going to feel if you decide not to have a session and set another goal of 9, 10 or 14 days and then make that goal?

    If you are asking the question I can only speak from my experience which is if I get through the urge and don't masturbate to porn I almost always feel better. And for the last few years especially once the orgasm rush is over I always feel guilty after a porn session. This was true for me long before I ever found this forum.
    So I would encourage you not to PMO.
    I would like to know what you decide and how that affected you if you don't mind sharing that.
    regardless I wish you the best and hope that whatever decision you make it is the right one for you at this time.
    ( But really I hope you don't do it )
     
  5. DarkTunnel

    DarkTunnel Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for the kind words. I'll definitely update if I do or not. Right now it's 50/50. It could seriously go in either direction.
     
  6. ruso

    ruso Fapstronaut

    One of the key things you will have to learn, and imo is the hardest, is to stop thinking of porn as a reward or a pick-me-up. As those that have adviced me have told me: "your brain wants a dopamine kick, and it'll do all it can to get it" in this case your dopamine kick is porn. So part of "rewiring" is replacing the reward mechanism we use to give ourselves a pick-me-up to something other then porn. It can be anything you want except porn and anything sexualized. Some ideas are desserts (just as long as you don't develop a sweets addiction), listening to music, buying yourself some new threads, sleep (for me personally when I am in a rut sleeping it off helps), video games.

    I know it's tough man. Easier said then done. After all you reached your milestone didn't you? I used to use porn as a reward and a pick-me-up, and have been slowly rewarding myself in other ways and cheering myself up in other ways.

    So don't relapse. You'll thank yourself later.
     
  7. Jimb0

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    Hello DarkTunnel,

    That choice is up to you my friend. Either choice is neither wrong or right. If you think PMO isn't going to hinder your progress in other areas then I don't see the big issue. The real problem is if PMO has affected you negatively in other ways. In the end only you know what's best for you.

    If I were you, I'd try to think about what positive things you have gotten from abstaining from PMO in the last week. Compare yourself between last week and this week. Investigate whether it has made a positive impact on your life so far. What are you goals in the long run? Answering these questions will help you make the right decision.

    Again, the choice is up to you. We're always going to be here to support you whatever decision you make.

    Good luck and all the best.
     
  8. Oldham

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    All of us are free to PMO and PMO some more to our heart's content.
    We are here because we want to stop so we can improve our lives.
     
  9. dcchristopher

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    The pressure and lack of motivation can get intense. Do your best to resist it. If you fall be sure to get back up again. I think most are here because they have learned the lesson that porn is not helping them in the long run. You can do this man!
     
  10. DarkTunnel

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    First, thanks to all the responses. I'll make this quick and easy to read because I know how wordy posts can get sometimes.

    - I did not P, M, or O last night.
    - What happened? After making the post I still had 4 hours till the 8 day mark where I would make my decision.
    - In that time I read some of the responses. The moral support did help.
    - I also killed time doing other stuff. Then when the 8 days was official I was already pretty tired (midnight) and I wasn't that much in the mood anymore.
    - One thing that stood out to me was someone saying "remember why I'm doing this" and "what differences I see from last week to this week".
    - The bold is important because one thing that I hate about PMO is what it does to my flaccid penis state. It makes it feel and look all shriveled up and the shaft stays hard feeling even though not erect.
    - So I looked at my penis and felt the shaft, it didn't have that hard shriveled up feeling that it had the day before. It looked like it was less shriveled too.
    - That was pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. I thought to myself, "see what physical changes week 2 might bring". Also thinking about how day 8 I had my first erections (spontaneous) since the reset.

    You can skip this paragraph if you want:
    One final thing I'd say about last night, and I don't know how much of a factor this is, I started watching a movie called Ichi the Killer (ultra violent Japanese film). One of the first few scenes depicts a women with a badly beaten face being raped by a man while he's still beating her. No nudity is shown but this could have also contributed to me being turned off last night as I'm strongly against that type of thing. I watched a few more scenes, one a guy being tortured, hung by hooks in his back and boiling water poured over him, then the last scene I watched a man cut his own tongue off. I stopped watching the movie at this point as I'm not particularly fond of gore in the first place but I do remember feeling off put by the whole thing.
    That being said, I don't think a movie will stop you from jacking off to some porn so I think it had more to do with what I bolded and the fact that I was tired. Those were the two main factors.

    Today, good news! I got a call for a job interview less than an hour ago. So right now I'm back to taking it one day at a time again and after a few days I might decide to make two weeks my goal and see what the results might yield.
     
  11. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    I'd just like to chime in and say I can relate to a lot of what you've written. Sometimes I feel like I'm counting the days till the next fix.

    It's almost like this... have you ever been on a one day fast, I mean, there's literally nothing you can think about except eating, you're so freaking hungry, you can feel you stomach rumbling and you find yourself watching tv shows where they are cooking delicious juicy steak, and all the while I'm thinking damn after I've finished this fast I'm gonna tuck into a nice juicy steak, maybe some honey glazed bbq pork ribs, with chips and a coleslaw side.

    So I think abstaining from porn is the same EXCEPT it is this dopamine reward that isn't really a reward. I mean sure we get that hit but, damn look at the cost. Anxiety, lack of eye contacts, some fuckers are hooked on transgendered person porn, I mean that's how bad it has escalated.

    What I will say, set incremental goals, 7 days 14, 30 days then 45 days then 60 days then 90. And don't beat yourself too much if you make the goal then reset.

    What I've found is every milestone I've hit I go that little bit further the next time. And all those days NoFap just before a relapse are not without its benefits. I mean straight after a relapse oh man, do you feel down. But look at what you've learnt up to that point.

    Here are my survival tips advice for moving forward.

    1. You gotta be strict. Nofap means no PMO, no soft porn, no wild fantasies, no late night TV channels where there are girls sat naked with a phone in their hands. If there's a hot girl you have to talk to and she arouses your ass, look away and take your mind somewhere else. Any trigger is bad. Don't trick yourselves.

    2. Set micro goals, this includes everyday tasks as well as nofap. If your on a 60nofap milestone, think of it is smaller steps, right 'I gotta get to day 7' that's all I think about. Same with work, instead of saying I gotta write an essay, say I'm gonna complete the introduction in half an hour. That's all you think about. This helps believe me.

    3. At some point you should notice heightened aggression, use this wisely, go lift, get out. If you have no friends go out by yourself and talk. Make this a habit join extra groups, study a language, get fit, do life drawing lessons, join a salsa club. Just get out there whatever floats your boat.

    4. Talk to all girls, fat, ugly, whatever... Girls are girls. I know you're just used to noticing the hot ones but the lesser attractive girls have a lot to offer you in terms of experience.

    5. Lastly, make sure you hit your targets, that's why it is essential to set them in a manageable way. If this is your first time NoFap forget 90 days hard mode as your first goal. It's not gonna happen unless you're superhuman. Set an easier goal. 7 days say. BUT make sure you hit that goal at all costs.

    6. Meditation... Yeah I passed it off as new age bullshit, but setting aside 10 minutes before bed and just as you wake up does wonders. Try to think of nothing, nothing-ness no thoughts enter your head. Just focus on the present.

    Eventually, you'll find your mood improving, although there will be bad bad days, like severe depression, don't worry, this is all part of the process.

    Enjoy the process, start living, and start finding new avenues to replace dopamine as a reward circuit. The rest, as they say, is history.

    Good luck.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2014
  12. DarkTunnel

    DarkTunnel Fapstronaut

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    Good advice and the transgendered person part made me laugh even though it might not be funny to others.

    Well I just found out my car is seriously fucked and I won't have one for weeks, maybe longer. It's not looking good. In the mean time I have to try and get rides to work and my options to go out will be severely limited. Temperatures are freezing anyway so most people don't go out that much this time of year.
    I get what you're saying and I'll take it into account.

    I think tonight might be the night though. lol
     
  13. DarkTunnel

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    So last night I broke my run. I PMO'd 3 times in the space of about 4 hours. The first was 30 minutes, second 15 minutes, and the last was 10-15 minutes. About 2 hours between the first 2, and 1 hour between the last 2. It was a conscious decision, I had been thinking about it a few days as you can see in this thread. Took my time to "set up" and had plenty of time to back out.

    The first was amazing, best wank I've had in years. Heart was beating, neurons were on fire. It felt like I could have been actually fucking them for real. It was mostly female solo and no penetration. I usually start sessions that way. I didn't feel bad about it at all. When it was over I wasn't sure how I felt because it was just intense pleasure. I remember thinking, "I can't analyze how I feel right now, I need time to process".

    The second time was still highly pleasurable but there were some negative feelings as this time I pushed towards more hardcore content. Female-Male. I think I came to realize that seeing another man and his junk on screen is a big part of the negative feelings associated with porn viewing. I can't really explain it. It's like you don't want to see him or his junk but at the same time watching a woman have full on sex is the most arousing.

    The third time, I felt like I could go for one more so I was like, "fuck it, why not"? This time was much less intense but still pleasurable. The orgasm was just ok. I remember thinking, "that session was kinda pointless". I basically emptied the tank with the last one.


    I wrote this out because I think it's only fair to follow up and somebody did ask and I'm sure plenty of you long term abstainers would be interested to read through.

    Going forward, last night I thought about taking a break from the forum and nofap as a whole. Just doing whatever I feel like basically. This forum has been a great resource and I'm sure I'll continue to use it but right now I'm not doing another abstinence run just yet. If nofap has taught me anything it's that even if you don't quit cold turkey, reducing the amount of pmo can still greatly benefit you. And if nothing else it makes pmo even better lol.

    I feel fine and happy with my decision. Thanks for reading. :D
     
  14. One Punch Luc

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    That's all good mate. I'm glad nofap helped, just don't let PMO trap you and wreck your life. I agree, that first time I had relapsed after I had abstained for nine days was incredible, but again, I didn't feel good afterward.
    Overall, if you want to stop nofap for while, just be careful, because I know how hard it is not to get addicted to the habit.
    All the best to you mate, and thanks for helping me out on my journey.
     

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