88 Days - PMO Free - Changes Noticed & Restart

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  1. ash_cloud

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    So true what you said on feeling more 'alive'. It feels like you woke up from a daze , a dream and are actually living now. This is how life should normally be. You can actually smell the flowers, actually feel the rain, feel empathy - feel real again. Brings a certain calmness, like you just got out of torture, are sitting by the side of the road now and are catching your breath. Life doesn't feel as hurried anymore.
     
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  2. SirErnest

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    I too wonder if for some people, simply not ejaculating at all may be the answer.
    You seem to have a good understanding of all this.
    Good luck and well done on the achievements.
     
  3. ash_cloud

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    There seems to be a major correlation between O and the debilitating physical effects. At-least I am convinced based on my own experiences over a number of years and also years of reading other peoples experiences on multiple forums and mediums.
     
  4. SirErnest

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    I can't quite imagine some of the important historical figures sat there naked cracking one out over some nude imagery.
    Also, abstinence and/or celibacy are seen in the West as somewhat wrong (I won't expand too much on that) but I don't quite know why and how we came to the opinion that masturbating and/or chasing ejaculation is generally right. Might it be something known as 'presentism'? A reaction against who we were a generation or two ago...
     
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    The modern day society has turned the clock back on this. In the past they were a lot more advanced in their understanding. The understanding as based on years of observation. Quite a few major historical figures have been known to be celibate.

    Modern day understanding is based on billions in dollars spent by special interest groups - medical industry, P industry. Demographically I would say half the population - women - are on the other side. Add to that millions of men who are happily fapping away. NOPMO is a smaller group.

    I believe God intended this to be a method for conceiving a new human being and that's it. Which is why each ejaculation was packed full of life giving force to create a new human being. It is a violent event and takes away from man their most essential nutrients accumulated over time.

    The eastern societies - Chinese and Indian - have a counterbalance. Their sages and religion have over milllenia rejected O based on observation, and still have a strong influence on society.
     
  6. SirErnest

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    I almost wonder if pornography might be almost a weapon of war, intentionally utilized to weaken an entire group of (mainly) men. Millions of us. I'm a smart man (ish) and it's what I would do if I were an evil type wanting to destabilise people and take advantage.
    Ok, it's a little bit on the conspiracy side, but nonetheless it is the case that hours spent chasing ejaculation or masturbating not only are unproductive hours, but also the implications last so much longer.
    Reckon I'll put this black mirror down (look it up) and DO something!
     
  7. almirante

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    Continue postando, pls, quanto mais motivação melhor
     
  8. Ra's Al Ghul

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    Great post, ash cloud.
     
  9. ash_cloud

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    All, even though I am trying to put together a streak, I am feeling that edging is negating a lot of the benefits.

    I have been edging most days and have been feeling low energy, lethargy, lack of motivation.

    I haven't edged for last 12 hours and am suddenly feeling better now.

    Requesting experienced members to respond, if they have experienced anything similar ?
     
  10. Mattew

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    Edging is like pmo, if not worst, so you basically never had a streak...
     
  11. ash_cloud

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    Well we all count our streaks differently. Its hard for me to believe you didn't edge during your 137 day streak ? In any case, thanks for responding.
     
  12. Mattew

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    Man, if you edge you are doing pmo, point, not partially, you are totally completely doing pmo if you edge, with all the same implications and issues of pmo.

    You probably don't understand what's the issue here. Many, like you, for some strange reason believe that if you don't orgasm you are not doing pmo, but unfortunately that's bullshit. When you edge you are flooding your brain with dopamine, and you are obviously watching porn, orgasming or not has nothing to do with that. The damages at your body and your mind are made by porn and dopamine flow, and edging give you the same quantity of dopamine and the same issues as pmo.

    And by the way, yes, i never edged or watched porn, because that is how you heal and get rid of the problem.
    Edging is like being cocaine addicted and thinking that you can snort edging to the level of passing out...and healing while you do that, that's crazy.
     
  13. the same here ! i have friends who masturbate every day and have no energy problems what so ever., they are very active and succesful in life. For me the difference when i dont pmo is incredible.
     
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  14. yeah i wonder it too, definitely i have to restrict my O , what is kinda strange because i have a high libido and can O several times with a woman in short time. When i O with a woman my erection doesn't fade. I can just keep going and im almost 40 years old. Thats why i dont understand why it depletes me more than other even if i O once (i mean depletes my emotions and motivation in life ).
     
  15. ash_cloud

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    I belive
    I believe you. Thanks for the response above. I have been reading articles on edging all evening and my thinking is changing. My last streak of 88 days , I did almost no edging after the first 3-4 days, because I was so scared that I would O, so experienced huge benefits - albeit due to the wrong motivating factor.

    This time I had been thinking, I have done this before and can do it again, and can edge while at it. However dramatically different results in terms of progress. I see from the literature, where I'm going wrong. There are two schools of thought:
    1st - Brain chemistry - dopamine rush is same as PMO on edging - and a lot worse in terms of effects because its sustained
    2nd - The transmutation of energy school of thought - Chinese, Indian origins - where ejaculation has lot more focus - and if you edge - transmute it. Although to give credit to them , they are also against P, M but with more focus on O

    I am definitely moving towards the 1st school of thought. Going cold turkey again - No edging

    Note to self: read
    https://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com...ughts-on-rebooting-extremely-long-post.15558/

    http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7g07pnjh8ivpjk8umrj15eeb10&topic=1256.0
     
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  16. Mattew

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    You perfectly understand the thing, edging is really bad.

    About the "Chinese school", i don't think they focus on orgasming, they focus on totally eliminating lust from your life, and obviously porn is part of that, and they also focus on the damages of masturbation and the damages of semen wasting.
    The edging thing is something that your addiction make you believe, but it has nothing to do with chinese school which is the most strict in everything on no pmo, i think that this is a conclusion that many addicts come to believe because their addiction make them believe it.
    It's like you brain telling you "c'mon, you can take a peak at that site, just one peak, it's not going to harm you".

    The good thing is, you now understand that's bad, and it's a sign that someone is ready to heal.
     
  17. SirErnest

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    Maybe high sex drive can also be 'high life drive'.
     
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  18. Edging is definitely masturbating, its playing with your willie.

    Example : i was masturbating but my wife entered the room so i didnt come. So masturbation doesnt have to include the orgasm. because you would refer to that event as masturbation , just without the climax.
     
  19. ash_cloud

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    Yep, agreed. Haven't edged for a day and half and feeling positive.
     
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  20. SirErnest

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    Edging is like wanting to stop the computer game or box set, but you can't. But you're acting like a naked, sad lonely monkey and jacking off.
    Jesus let us nail this shit and become much BETTER.
    Well done. Don't treat yourself. I know now that edging is bad.
     
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