9 months of nofap, still flatlining?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Hungry_Shark, Nov 4, 2017.

  1. Hungry_Shark

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    10 years of pmo addiction ,
    fapping 5 times everyday for 10 years.
    I am in flatline since day 1 and I can say I am still in a flatline after 9 months.

    There are some benefits that I have noticed -

    - women attracted to me like bees to honey.

    - colours look more bright, like my eyes now have an HD lens installed in it.
    - my eye sight is 5 times more sharp
    - hair have gone thick and dark
    - my voice has become very strong (commanding, if you will)
    - my aura has become very strong.
    - I went on a drive with a girl and we were making out and I had this amazing boner, I'm sure if it would have lead to sex, i would get 100% erection.

    My problem is ...
    - I still don't feel libido.
    - I still have no motivation
    - still no energy
    - fatigue, lethargy.

    I am not sure how long am I going to take to completely cure, any ideas?
     
  2. MarinoBigFan1984

    MarinoBigFan1984 Fapstronaut

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    I’m still surprised your dick didn’t fall off.
     
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  3. Ocguy

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    Well you must have some libido or you wouldn't have gotten a boner when making out. But I kind of understand, your not hungry for sex in general

    How many times have you orgasmed in the last 9 months?
     
  4. Hungry_Shark

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    0 times, monk mode, hard mode.
    I saw white urine coming out in the morning, 4 times in 9 months, maybe that's excess semen.
    But personally, i have not orgasmed or ejaculated.
     
  5. saneagain

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    You're not alone. Same shit here. 11 months.

    -no sex drive like before
    -no interest or motivation for anything
    - fatigue
    - burning skin
    - lightheadedness

    And some other weird stuff. I had sex and I MOd also after 2 longer hard mode streaks but all this stuff persists.

    A few days ago I MOd and had a sex dream the night after that. My mind seems to be still addicted.
     
  6. Ocguy

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    I know, 5 months here , basically monk mode maybe a handful of Os last 30 days none though.
    It sure feels like it's more than porn. Burning skin is more of a Bartonella infection. And bart is known to crush libido. I have bart, Rickettsia, mycoplasma, everybody does to some degree.

    I want to believe it's just porn and over use, because there are so many overlaps with the flatline and brain fog that others seem to get over with their reboot, but it really points to some sort of low level inflammation and overall body/mind fatigue that bugs are notorious for causing.
     
  7. saneagain

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    Burning skin is a classic paws Symptom. For me it goes away instantly after orgasm for 3-4 days. Then it comes back. Same goes for dreams. If I MO then I stop dreaming. A few days of abstinence and I start dreaming again. I am sorry but insomnia, vivid porn/sex dreams, muscle tension, lightheadedness, short term memory loss, concentration problems, anhedonia are the most typical withdrawal symptoms. Plus I have been checked multiple times by a dozen of doctors and there absolutely nothing wrong with my immune system and no signs of infection whatsoever. If you have been checked by doctors and nothing serious has been found, then you should stop talking yourself and other people into believing you have any sort of infection.

    Sensitivity in my dick has come back A LOT since the start of all this crap. In the beginning I wouldn't feel ANYTHING in my penis when I touched it. I feel drawn to women again but the crushing mental symptoms hinder me from living life like I would like to.
     
  8. Ocguy

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    Yea, abstinence makes it more sensitive no doubt. It's amazing that this doesn't translate to libido. Obviously some disconnect between the brain and penis, it all has to work in harmony. The anhedonia is killer. And is taking a painfully long time to subside. I don't remember it being so persistent with prior reboots
     
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  9. saneagain

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    Yes, it's really hard to describe. It's not like you're in a bad mood or sad or anything like that. For me it is like something in my brain has been switched of and everything that meant something to me suddenly doesn't matter at all like making music or studying. It's like there is no point in doing anything. Consciously I know that it's not true but some emotional component in my brain has been turned off completely. I am perfectly fine with sitting all day and staring at the wall. It's not boring to me, because everything feels the same.

    I went to a strip club yesterday. It's the weirdest feeling to be aroused by the girls but at the same time not beeing able to enjoy the arousal. If one has not experienced this state of mind, then one will not understand it just from words.

    Dude make the decision to have no "prior reboots" anymore. Make this your last reboot for the rest of your life.
     
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  10. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    I feel for the posters on this thread. I have to ask, how is your diet? Diet is huge. If you would like another "tough love" program, but related to diet, I highly recommend "It Starts With Food." Written by an ex-heroin addict, Melissa Hartwig.
     
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  11. Ocguy

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    Yea, totally feel this, just like an empty shell of existense. You're lucky u can still get aroused by chicks even if there is no emotion. I'm dead all over.
    Yea this is the last reboot. No choice. It's that or death.
     
  12. Ocguy

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    I've been on raw vegan, paleo, Mediterranean for months at a time doesn't change anything. Skin looks a little better on raw. But that's about it
     
  13. NotSoAverageJoe

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    I bet a really good orgasm would liberate all that trapped, pent up sexual energy and allow you to relax and stop stressing so much. Honestly, forcing yourself to go 7 months without an orgasm or physical pleasure sounds extremely depressing and stressful. Your libido is there, stop being in resistance.

    I honestly think NoFap is bullshit... sure maybe stop fapping for the first couple months but at some point I think you need to be comfortable with the fact that you have a dick and it feels good to touch it. I always get hate when I say this but if you're not getting laid you have two options; go get laid or jerk off.

    You gotta be driving yourself crazy being stressed about being in flatline, just relax and realize stress kills libido. You got a boner making out with a girl? Great, you are not in flatline
     
  14. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    How is your sleep and water intake? It's also very possible you will need longer to reboot. @Mateo89 came up with a formula for length of reboot. It's 2 months for every year of PMO addiction. According to that, I'm sitting at 5 years.
     
  15. TodayBeforeTomorrow

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    You actually have 3 options, the third being do nothing. To each their own. Go full no PMO, then, with that emperical evidence under your belt, come back and give us an opinion worth being considered. You're still a dopamine addict by MO'ing, my friend, and from the sounds of it, your emotional limbic brain system still dominates your executive brain. Good luck.
     
  16. Ocguy

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    Not sure who your post is for, but that's the problem with flatline, the way it feels for me is I've just orgasmed 3 times, totally drained and never recharged. It's absolute hell to not feel connected to your penis, like a useless apendage. If I force myself to get excited and bust a nut the flatline just goes much deeper after the endorphins subside
     
  17. Ocguy

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    Water intake is good, sleep is decent. Yea i read that post. I don't think i would go 5 years. I've had some healing. Lots of reboots with some success. This last stint started in march when I went on testosterone. I was feeling libido every 3rd day and of course O.d . Well the testosterone put me in overdrive and I o.d every day for 45 days. Hit a huge flatline. Been going in semi hard mode since July. I think if I go to April I should be back to where I was prior. Just using simple math. Provided I don't cheat. I'm still so flat now, I don't think that will be a problem. 5 years sounds rough. I think the healing builds exponentially when it kicks in. At least that's what I noticed before on prior reboots.
     
  18. I don't know how true that really holds up though... It's not like there's any scientific proof on the length of addiction recovery, at least I don't believe it would be that long anyway. What's the basis for the two months for every year?

    Because like for you, I could not see an addiction hanging around for 5 whole years, that's way to long. :(
     
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  19. Hungry_Shark

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    I can completely 100 % relate to this.
    When I wake up in the morning, I just feel like laying and not talk to anyone or go out. I just want to rest.
    I know the feeling of being aroused but at the same time , not feeling anything emotionally like we used to feel earlier.
    I doubt have we done permanent damage to our hormones? I think no because looking at the sensitivity of my penis, I'm very hopeful.
    My penis is extremely sensitive, its just the brain fog and lack of motivation and lack of energy that's killing me. I don't know how long this is going to take but I just hope for the best.
    Its good to know someone else is on the same boat as you, and can completely co-relate each others feelings.
     
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  20. Hungry_Shark

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    I don't think I will be having an orgasm unless I get my libido 100% back.
    I mean I can have sex with a woman, i know I will have 100% erection if its needed but I want to feel that libido inside, that animal and I'm sure its going to take a lot of time.

    I guess that's what the brain is tricking you to do, have an orgasm get a dopamine hit and you will feel fine, basically go back to your old self.
    It doesn't correct the root cause which is being happy and motivated even without orgasms and that's what we all trying to find here.
    Happiness, energy, motivation without orgasms.
    I have read success stories where guys felt completely normal and full of energy once they left pmo , obviously it took time.
    Good diet, exercising, good sleep and TIME are all needed to get healed from this dangerous pmo.
     
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