Active and passive masturbation.. two very different types of masturbation?

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  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Not that i condone masturbation in any shape or form. I think it is harful, however i also think there are various degrees of damage.

    This sounds weird even to me and i've been masturbating for 20 years but noticed this accidentally.

    So there's what i will call the passive masturbation where you just sit there and stroke your dick and there appears to be the active masturbation where you hold your hand still and thrust with your pelvis. The feelings seem to be very different and so does the orgasm.

    It also feels that you lose control in passive masturbation and it's like you get milked, whereas in active masturbation it feels you are in control and dont gel milked but rather you deliver semen. This would also explain femdom, as regular stroking is more like femdom milking.

    I think this would be connected to the issues many face with hocd, as the passive masturbation ( the most common one ) is basically you in the role of the woman.

    Anyone else noticed this?
     
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  2. IAmLegion

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  3. Ive always preferred stroking for masturbation. Thats the only way i really like to do it. When masturbation is concerned i think of it as me pleasuring myself, so i like to work my penis with my hand. As far as sex is concerned, i view it as pleasuring another person, so then the humping comes into play.
     
  4. 010010010100000101001101

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    You're thinking about this shit too much. Masturbation is masturbation. Sure, there is physical differences which gives different effects, but all the meaning you give to it is all in your head... at least that's what I think. Maybe if you wanna become a successor to Freud over-analyzing this stuff might be of use, but for our purposes here I don't see how it is...
     
  5. ultrafabber

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    Finally someone who gets it. I don't know why people or why I didn't notice it. Now that i've seen it i can't unsee it.

    Prone is very bad for your penis but psychologically it is much better than regular.

    Regular is you actively STROKING dick and you as the man being "led" to orgasm by someone else. You mostly have the role of a woman.

    Thrusting in your hand is you in the role of a man, even if you are penetrating yourself and that is not good. So that leaves bed thrusting and that is very damaging.

    The thing is that i tried alternating them in the same session and they really feel very different. Even the arousal felt different. I watched femdom milking and it seems very similar to regular stroking, where its you forcing your semen out.

    What is even more interesting is that there is no feeling of needing or even wanting to masturbate again soon after if i did the thrusting thing. Whereas stroking leads to intense feelings of needing to binge.
     
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  6. ultrafabber

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    You like to do it that way because you conditioned yourself to do it that way, mainly because watching porn is you sitting on a chair and you cant thrust there.

    The issue is that you are not only pleasuring yourself, you are pleasuring a man, which makes it either gay or makes you the woman.
     
  7. Lol i guess im a gay woman then
     
  8. ultrafabber

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    Actually the two are very similar. Gay men are more or less "women". It's a gender identity issue.
     
  9. Infrasapiens

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    I cannot believe my eyes. An ultrafabber thread that is not about being gay for masturbating. I'm impressed.
    I spoke too soon. Gay Hand Man strikes when you least expect it.
     
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  10. ultrafabber

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    Simple minded people mock, that's all they can do.
     
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  11. I think thrusting simulates the general animalistic built-in copulation mode best.
    And that also stimulates your body differently vs. being passive. Dominance vs. Submission.
    Probably you have higher testosterone after playing dominating part, probably also feeling
    more satiated. And at least you get the exercise if you are behaving actively :D
     
  12. ShadyPerson

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    I have been/am into femdom and I always masturbated actively. So no, no connection there.
     

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