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Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by cud, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. cud

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    Hi my friend! It has been while since I contributed, almost a month or so?

    And here I go again with some thoughts I´d like to share with you, cause I´d like to know your opinions and maybe we can all go deeper with this.

    It is about addictions. As I gave up - or have been giving up - FAPing I realized one more thing today. It was funny I went to swim and while I was changing I realized I forgot my swimsuit :D - stupid I am right :) ?

    Anyway on my way back to my appartment I felt bad - these bad emotions that have been inside of me for almost a year or so. Many of you remember my story maybe - I lost my relationship almost year ago and FAP contributed to this thing rapidly! But now I realized that I have been having greater problem than I thought. Let me explain to you.

    As it has been a while I have been with o gf I started to hang out with one of my friend. We set up rules that we will just sleep together so we help each other. Long story short - i didnt work out. She started to fall in love with me and I didnt and to be honest I felt terrible after the "work" was done. Empty feeling - I realized then that I need real LOVE to make sex. Maybe I am weird but at last i know what I really want!

    My biggest problems are addictions!!! I gave up FAP - or at least i am on the way. But what else? Here the list i noticed so far:
    • addicted to extensive thinking - mostly about the ebnd of my relationship and what she did and what she said to me
    • to being in the past and hurt myself again and again
    • think about how my gf will come back - i need to admit this here
    • to people or girls should love- what? yes i need their love and when it is given to me i hate myself - it is not real
    • i am addictied to all videos on youtube about LOA - i kind of believe it that it is our feedback system what we should do diferently - but come on being all the time on youtube and study things that i have seen milion times? Live is probably somewhere else right?
    • addicted to loudness - i cannot stand alone in my room with no music on or this video
    • addicted to approvals - that i am lovable and good person

    Does anyone of you have the same problems? It is not only FAP that make us addicted but there many things and I think we should do something with that. I dont know what.. yet. But I want to know my real ME and let things be as they are. Meanwhile I´d like to live my life. First of all I want to fully embrace myself, which I didnt yet obviously. I love my ex and I want to set her free i really do all I want is to set me free as well. I know deep inside of me that loving my ex is not a bad thing - i have a great heart with full of place but I need to stop thinking about everything that has been done in the past.

    It certanly wasnt real me - I see myself that time as total creep guy not a real man.

    So i guess our brain is an addict! We need to do something with it... i dont know what.

    I would be happy if I hear some of your opinions. How to deal with it how to let go things...i want to let them go but they perceive inside of me and they dont want to go...fuck thats difficult!
     
  2. nrque

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    Watch this video. Take in the good stuff. Filter out the stuff you think is bad/wrong.

    Good Luck Mate :)
     
  3. sure if we have fallen to fapping for most of our lives, then we have an addictive personality maybe? My grand-grandfather, grandfather, and father are alcoholics, my father has a twin brother who is also alcoholic, I on the other hand don't want to drink, but I'm addicted to porn, been addicted to video games. So i gues its the personality type, the only choice if it's impossible to break through the addiction is to get addicted to something positive I guess.

    It's a shame that after such a long time you have problems, but at least you noticed them and are trying to take an action, which is as good as it can get. If only you will try to tackle them with the same strength as you fought NoFap, you can do this.
     
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  4. cud

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    I realize that these things are normal and we should take it easy, but i dont. Everyone around me says that I am pretty long in the shit. I know it is just a girl... she did wrong things to me and to be honest i said wrong things to her too :( ... but i still have the feelings inside of me and i should say that those feeling are very strong.

    All I want to say is that and listen to me closely:

    Not 90days, not 180days (probably)... the journey never ends...


    Cheers!
     
  5. nrque

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    Hey Cud,

    I can only think about the mental condition you are in.

    I might not be a pro preacher but just check it out. I might be wrong, I might be right.

    You still need her or think that you need her because she must have filled a hole in your heart. Your happiness must have have depended on her actions and thoughts. Any relationship in such a way is never going to last. You cannot feed off her energy levels and happiness. Start giving more. When you learn to fill your cup, you would not be sad if someone left you or if someone is with you. This is a hard thing to do, but it is also a wise thing to do.

    I know this is going to be a hard thing to do, but i suppose you should get into the field and start gaming. Burn your ego, heck even cry in front a girl. But you need to get over it. Burn your ego. Struggle through the pain. Then rise like a king. Accept the thoughts that come into your mind. Embrace them. If you want to think about her, then do it. CRY a river. Let the pain run its course. But once you've gone through it do not get into this process again. Its a waste of time.

    You think she is good for you because she might have made you happy. But a real woman does not need to take care of his man. The man supplies the emotions, the woman enjoys the journey and aids in his success.

    Good Luck to you mate :)
     
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  6. SnowWhite

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    In your list, I see a list of fears.

    Fear of being alone, fear of criticism, fear of silence, fear of going forward ...

    Whenever you try to do something new, you need to pass the border of your comfortzone.
    The name of this border is "fear".
    It is an area of the uncertain and the unknown.
    When you fap, it means to go back.

    The idea is that you learn to deal with the fears. And to go on despite the fears.
    This is a progress. It goes step by step.
     
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  7. cud

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    Thank you very much for your reply.

    I´d love to get over it. She has birthday next week and i dont know what to do. I´d love to at least wish her luck in her life. We were really good in life but it has been a time and I kind of dont feel i should do the game again, I´ve always been a romantic guy and it took me 2years I got her - few years ago. And now? I dont see any nice girl on the street - not as good as she was. Is the game the way out of it? Really, tell me, is it the way?

    I want to fill my cup first but sometimes i have such pain inside of me - then I go home and cry. To be honest it helps me a bit. But still, is crying man ever find a woman...

    Man, this is just terrible, I wish I have never met her...
     
  8. nrque

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    By gaming I mean hard cold approach pick up. Not just to have sex with a stranger, but rather to share a connection. It will rewire your brain. It will help you get back your life in ways you don`t know. I know this sounds like bullshit but trust me. Putting your self in hard situations improves your RAS-system of the brain. It helps you get through stuff.

    If I was on your place, I would call her, wish her for her birthday. I would make sure that I do not put out to her as being in need of her. Yes, if you could work things out it would be great but neediness is not the way to go.

    Start thinking about other ares of your life that you want to improve.

    Start living in abundance. The first step to do that is a positive mindset. Be it with girls, be it with money or with life, think and feel that your`re in abundance and you`ll keep manifesting.

    Along with that keep up your nofap and workout routine. Add in meditation. See if cold approach pick up helps you. Travel, give back to the world, help a friend. If you are so crazy behind her, study female psychology and then get her( I know this sounds crazy).
     
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  9. SnowWhite

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    Try to be thankful for the JOY you have experienced.
    Try to be thankful for the EXPERIENCE you have made.
    If you would never have met her, your life would have been dull and flat.

    And believe me, you really really need to forget her and to go your own way.
    When you "chase" a woman, she never comes back.

    You need to go your very own way. Then you are stable, and then you also become an interesting person.
     
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  10. cud

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    You are right and I know it - deep inside of me. I dont want to chase her, not at all. I´ve made a great decision lately and yesterday I quit my faculty job cause I see myself somewhere else and what I am going to do is to concentrate on my business. And I have another two ideas that I like to concentrate to. And yes, maybe I am kind of scared cause first time in my life i will standing on my own foots. I was scared to talked to my boss yesterday - but it turned out that he is very supportive and he totally understand from mens perspective and he says that i should always follow my inner engine.

    Ok, I am gonna try it. I have been hanging out with two girls lately - not sex, but just talking. It feels good. One is very deep thinker (as me) and the other one is very positive and happy person (kind of of person I´d like to become). To be honest I kind of know why I am still single - because I simply want to. I dont want to move on. I have a fear to move on. Yes, sounds crazy but this is what my inner me, the real me, is telling me. I have been working on it and you guy are giving me so very needed push!!! Thanks for that!


    Believe me, I do my best. Sometimes, I just fail on my knees and the way up is sometimes a struggle. Anyway, thanks for you support man!!!

    Dont worry I wont do that. I dont want to chase anyone anymore. With those two girls I have been meeting with I experienced the more I dont give a shit, the more they want me... I know about the problem with my ex, I guess I have no more possibilities then "just" move on.

    Thank you guys for your replies. I know all these things that you said. Sometimes when the weak days comes, I need someone to tell this and someone to says me exactly what you did! Great job guys!
     
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  11. cud

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    what do you mean by that?
     
  12. nrque

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    Recticular Activation System. It's a part of the brain. Ever felt really uncomfortable or unstable when a hot girl talks to you? Or just like the way you had to talk to your boss. Maybe you must have started to sweat or something of that sort. RAS-system is the cause of that. So the more you strengthen and give it stimuli, it gets stronger. This is also the part of the brain that helps you make quick decisions. ps-meditation helps to strengthen it as well.
     
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    Yes buddy, congratz! We can do this, keep going :)
     
  14. cud

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    Ok, i did short research on the RAS-system. Tell me one thing, how should I apply this into my life - how did you mean it. I certainly has RAS, and it certainly works, but i dont see what you point is. Should I make any statement that I will get over her or something like that...Thanks
     
  15. Asgardian36

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    hey man! I like this thread, glad to see all the posts because I also some sort of online relationship and then she left...i needed moving on too! :)
     
  16. cud

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    I guess whole life is just about moving on...as the whole nature is the process of constant changing. Although it is quite diff to pick this up...
     
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    Fuck yes!
     
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    Man, I have been thinking about what you said again and i wanted to say this:

    I dont think I depened on her actions and thoughts. I was ashamed for my emotions to her and I didnt know how to express them. So didnt and I kind of feel that FAP was a problem that time - i felt stressed about that I am not able to express my deep feelings to her - so went to fap and then I was ok. But the thing grew bigger and bigger. And now I am sad i screwed up so much. That this beautiful girl is not here anymore. SO that where my bad feelings coming from.
    I have been working on myself as hell last few months and see that everything what i did in the past was just a bullshit. And this transformation is fucking huge thing which to be honest hurts a lot. Yeah, and one thing I am trying to embrace is to love myself first, but I need to get rid of this feeling of guilt.
     
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  19. Cud, I deeply empathize with your situation since I've been through many of the same emotions. Here are my 2 cents. Some of this is tough medicine- I'm not saying I am able to follow it hundred percent myself but I know there's wisdom in it.
    1) the fact that you feel deeply for your ex is a good thing, and that you wish her well is noble, and that you want a complete connection of love before you have sex is sensible. This is your heart- listen to it. There's a lot of cynical pick up crap out there that is soul-deadening and you'll waste a lot of time in your growth process going down that road. But, while all the I mentioned is good, you just have to accept that a relationship with a woman, any woman, however wonderful is NEVER going to make you perfectly happy all the time. A relationship is a life experience like any other- it will have pleasure and pain. It has to be skillfully managed. It teacher us to control our emotions and drives for the greater good. Excitement and infatuation last at most a few y
     
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  20. Oops sorry -that went out sooner than I intended. As I was saying, excitement and infatuation in a relationship last at most a few years. Then you have to live with this person,with all their pluses and minuses. Talk to your married friends- for most people it is no cakewalk. At times when you see the girl you adore so much in an angry mood as a termagant, and you're facing a divorce, you'll really wonder what attracted you to her in the first place. Been there done that. but I am not cynical. Marriage is a good thing- it makes you grow. After all that I still fell in love with another woman- very deeply. Some of this is deeply ingrained in us.
    2) Romantic love is only one kind of love, highly unreliable and over-glamorized by the media so we all think this is the only shit out there. Love takes many forms. THere is love of parent for child, platonic love between two friends of the same gender, love for people you may share a hobby with. EXPAND your notion of love. Don't compress it to one person. That is terribly limiting.
    3) To receive love you must first be prepared to give twice as much.
    4) If you truly love someone you must be prepared to set them free and let them go seek their true bliss. You will only have the courage to do this if you know where true bliss is. It is inside YOU. It is not outside.
    Although I was raised a Hindu I know Jesus Christ said 'The kingdom of God is within" - not without. There is great truth in that statement.
    5) All our experiences with romantic love are only teaching us to tap into ourselves and explore and know our deepest innermost recesses to answer the fundamental question "Who am I"? The answer to that in all the faith traditions is given. So cultivating one's spirituality, faith, or religious side- call it what you want- getting in touch with the real You, or placing faith in God (same thing really), will teach that relying on someone external for happiness is not a sound plan for continuing peace and bliss in life. Not saying people are not important, but if you are grounded deeply in yourself and truly giving, you'll find beautiful people of all types flocking to you, rather than us chasing them.
    Just my personal opinion. Good luck!
    YB
     
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