ADHD and sex addiction - anyone with similar?

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  1. whitelion41

    whitelion41 Fapstronaut

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    Hi,

    I have ADHD and i take pills. Problem is that pills enhance my porn addiction etc.
    Also, would be happy to know more people taht are struggling with ADHD and sex addiction - I think its unique and requires different strategies.

    Thanks
     
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  2. modernstore99

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    Addiction and ADHD are not very well understood in the present day, but it is known that patients with either (and especially both) have abnormal dopamine receptors and transmission pathways. I myself was diagnosed with ADHD several years ago when I began developing severe concentration deficiencies in university. I feel like it is either related to or caused by my porn abuse because I was extremely driven and attentive in high school (and was admitted to a top 3 public school in the US), but when I started university my porn abuse skyrocketed, and I was diagnosed with ADHD shortly after when my grades and motivation literally hit the floor. Adderall and ritalin actually had no effect on me, so I am taking another ADHD medication.

    If you're looking for support, there are tons of people on here who also struggle with ADHD and porn abuse.

    If you're looking for answers, there's not gonna be much out there besides evidence of correlations. The medical field is vastly uncertain about what causes ADHD and similar behaviors (with only about 25-30 years of research), the very porn addiction studies are still largely in the observation phase because it is such a new phenomena, and the synergy of both is completely out of the minds of researchers at this time.

    However, addressing both issues at the same time should help alleviate both, at least to some degree. Talk with your medical provider and eventually a pharmacologist about medication. Do a 90 day hardmode reboot and then begin rewiring to make it harder for porn to get back into your brain. Set up a regular exercise plan and socialize frequently to regulate your dopamine pathways and other hormones.
     
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  3. ElSabio

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    Yeah. I used to take Adderall for ADHD and it would lock me into porn like a vice. It's an incredibly powerful combination. I got off the meds. That's the only thing I can imagine working.
     
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  4. whitelion41

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    Ok, a bit of an updat.
    Btw, thanks for anserwing/replying

    So its been 14 days now. I think its one of the longest PMO ever in my life, at east intentionally.
    I am very confused since I know I cant be 'done' by my addiction, Ive had it for 25 years. I know that if I think Ive changed ill be back to my bad habits, but if i will not embrace my change whats the point of working so hard for a change if I cant recognise it?

    As for my ADHD: one of teh issues with ADHD is impulsiveness and borded. I can get very excited about something and then completely forget about my decision an hour after. I can get to stages where I can comletely forget about promises I told myself. But maybe the more significnt thing is I have never had LONG TERM GOALS. All my goals are susually short ones, I find it hard to discuss what want for the future, what are my goals. Issyes like family, or creative work project neber excist. My mind doesnt work this way, I just run away from any long term decisions.
    As for daiy tasks, its a struggle and without medication its really hars. Im 41 now, and started taking ADHD drugs when i was 30. It usually intensified my PMO addiction so I tried avoiding it for as much as possible. But the thing is, that I get very frustrated whith my ADHD and when i take the drugs im definetly more productve. I dont know whats better, but being frustrated from myself, not archiving goals and not completing tasks can also be a trigger to PMO.

    Anyway, it been a really tough few days but I feel better and strong but I am still very warry from teh future. Happy I can have an oppotunity to write about my feelings here, its just a good way to take things out.

    My foot is dancing in anxiety/ADHD now, its very hard for me concentrate to even finish this post and I cant be bothered checking my spelling mistakes (i.e., ADHD live).

    Ok, have to go,
    x
     
  5. ElSabio

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    Long cardio exercise does the same thing as ADHD meds. It's not as on-demand as the pills but it works. I took meds from the age of 34 until 43. I quit cold turkey. I thought I couldn't live without them but that was a side effect of the meds. My symptoms would be dramatically more intense and I didn't realize it was caused by the meds. Try cardio. Like an elliptical trainer. It doesn't need to be intense just at the point where you can't hold a normal conversation because you are breathing just a little too hard to talk continuously. Start with 20 minutes a day and work up to over an hour. It works. Think about whether or not the meds are actually doing what you feel they are doing. I loved them. They changed my life and I know they are useful but it turns out that they were doing things to me I couldn't see happening at the time.
     
  6. Psalm27:1my light

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    My husband did biofeedback/recommended by his csat. Very expensive and time consuming but definitely helped.
     
  7. whitelion41

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    This is interesting.
    Would love to hear more about it if you can in Private.
    Thanks
     
  8. whitelion41

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    Ok, will try it out.
    Cardio you mean jogging/running etc?
     
  9. whitelion41

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    Ok. I bit of an update.
    17 days without chats or voice chats or porn - great
    Had sex last night which was good, but not really the way I want it to be.
    This weekend was dangerous after attending parties, alchohol etc.
    But didnt do any drugs, slept during the weekend at friend's place in order to avoid being on my own after drinking etc.

    So its mostly positive.

    Thanks for all the info about ADHD. I really think this condition makes the struggle with POM unique. Would love to talk to more ppl about it.
    If you have ADHD and you want to group together - I would love to.

    Sending us all blessings of connection with ourselves,
    Ja bless,
    x
     
  10. ElSabio

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    Yes exactly. You don't have to go hard just hard enough so that if you were talking you'd have to stop to catch your breath. Long and steady at that pace.
     
  11. ADHD is not well understood largely because it can be multifactorial (multiple causative factors) and one of the major factors, mercury, can cause so many possible maladies that doctors have generally failed to recognize it for what it is.

    Mercury, once in the body, has a half-life in the body estimated at over 40 years. This means that 40+ years after the mercury exposure, half of it will have left the body. This half-life can be reduced, and the mercury eliminated more quickly, via special treatments known as chelation therapies--but by natural processes alone, it endures in the body for a long, long time.

    Mercury is fat-loving, and doesn't spend much time in the blood. It goes straight to the myelin cells, which are fatty cells surrounding the nerve axons in your nervous system. In the nerves, it breaks up tubulin, the supporting structure for the cell, causing the cells to essentially implode on themselves. This has the effect of knocking out communications, and all kinds of things can go wrong. A nervous tic (a muscular twitch) might develop, disorders like multiple sclerosis, myelinitis, loss of sight (macular degeneration included), memory loss, fatigue, brain fog, fits of anger, Parkinson's disease, nervous tremors, bruxism (grinding of the teeth), fibromyalgia, and many more abnormalities can all come in the wake of exposure to the toxin.

    Mercury exposure comes from many sources as well. Fish and sea foods are especially high in mercury, along with things like corn syrup which have been in the news for it. Dental tooth amalgams, usually called "silver fillings," are more mercury than silver by weight, and, contrary to the pablum dentists will tell you, the mercury vapor from these fillings constantly passes into the body as one eats and breathes. Many vaccines have thimerosal in them, a mercury-based preservative; and even the single-dose vials are known to have some mercury, albeit less than the multi-dose vials. Fluorescent and CFL lights are based on mercury vapor. And there are many more potential sources of exposure to this dangerous poison.

    A researcher in the eastern United States some years ago became famous as a martyr over her ignorance of mercury. She knew it was dangerous, but didn't know exactly how dangerous it could be. Her story, which is fascinating, can be found here:

    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article...-chemist-whose-poisoning-death-changed-safety

    That was just a bit over two decades ago. Many doctors are just as ignorant now as they were then. They don't know all of what mercury does yet.

    If you suffer from ADHD and are tired of the "no cause, no cure" type of pronouncements your doctor may have given you for it, find a certified/qualified toxicologist, one who is familiar with lab tests like the provocative urine test, hair-mineral analysis tests (HMA), and/or the newer computer-analyzed laser skin test (whose name I do not now recall). A good toxicologist will know of many forms of chelation treatments which can be used to bind to the toxins within the body's tissues and cause them to be excreted from the body. Your ADHD may be connected not only to mercury, but to other toxins like arsenic, cadmium, bismuth, tantalum, and lead. The toxicologist should be able to explain why these are considered neurotoxins.
     
  12. whitelion41

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    Thanks a lot
    Never thought about this aspect
    Have you urslf suffered from ADHD?
    Have you undergone such treatment ?
     
  13. I have never been diagnosed with ADHD. I did experience some mild learning disabilities when I was in school, and have brothers who likely had ADHD that went undiagnosed.

    My main experience with ADHD is in having witnessed the beneficial effects of chelation treatments on those who had it. (As I've said somewhere here before, I grew up among doctors.) ADHD is not the only symptom that can come from these toxins. Some people experience seizures (epilepsy)--that, too, can see improvement through systematic detoxification. Chelation therapy needs to be done by a qualified professional because the body's chemical balance must be carefully maintained throughout the treatments by replacing the good minerals that are also lost in the process. Basically, you lose some of everything, put back the good, and end up with a net gain against the toxins.

    If you've studied some chemistry, you might recall that certain elements on the periodic table are said to be in families, having the same valence. Much of the body's chemistry involves those valences. For example, beryllium (Be), at the top of the second column on the chart, is just above magnesium (Mg) in that same column, both having a +2 valence (charge). Beryllium is a toxin, whereas magnesium is an essential element in the body. If one is exposed to beryllium, the body will attempt to push out all of the +2 valence minerals, including BOTH beryllium and magnesium. This means when the doctor reads the analysis done on the mineral composition of the hair, he or she might see that BOTH beryllium and magnesium appear at high levels. A good toxicologist will know that the body is trying to remove beryllium, and the magnesium is lost alongside of it (collateral damage). A good doctor may then intuitively know that the patient is actually LOW in magnesium, even though the hair sample showed a HIGH level--because the body has been wasting magnesium in order to rid itself of the beryllium. This determination can often be supported by looking at the relative balances of other minerals in the report.

    It really is complicated chemistry, and even beginner toxicologists might not catch all the nuances of this during their early experience at reading the lab reports. It is good to find a doctor of some experience who has been able to grasp all of the inter-workings of the various elements in the body.
     
  14. ElSabio

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    It can also be as simple as an overprotective mother who doesn't let her child play rough or do anything even mildly dangerous during important developmental periods.
     
  15. Forgot to answer this part earlier...yes, I have had some chelation treatments, but in my case they were for arsenic poisoning. I remember feeling a little bit tired initially following the treatments, but my symptoms from the poisoning improved. Arsenic is bad stuff, really bad...but mercury is even worse. I'm thankful not to have had too much trouble with mercury over the years (compared with others who have had it much worse).
     
  16. whitelion41

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    You are right, I did discover some issues in this respect. But, besides acknowledging trauma what can you do ?
     
  17. ElSabio

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    I can only tell you what I did which is to shape a lifestyle which I can manage within. I live a VERY unconventional life because it's better than being stressed and overwhelmed all the time.
     

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