After a year, i'm falling into porn again...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by arkad1, May 18, 2019.

  1. g2stop

    g2stop Fapstronaut

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    What do you like about porn? Watching other people having sex? That’s creepy man
     
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  2. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    We can talk about that, but that is totally another issue, different than the issue i was talking about: "Does nofap give you any improvement\advantage?"
    For what is my experience nofap result are ridicolous, and there's a big business growing around it, like selling books, youtubers "coaching" kids, promising them "superpowers".
    And also sites like yourbrainonporn are actually not so serious and they also promote, in a more discrete manner, that "Superpowers" are real.
     
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  3. g2stop

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    If you don’t get any advantage from nofap then it is reasonable for you to continue to fap. I feel many benefits such as a clear head, less guilt, more self worth and therefore more confidence which leads to meeting more people and more girls and having many more opportunities for real intimacy and love etc. Some people call this “super powers” but actually it is what everyone is born with but porn has robbed many people from normal emotions and normal experiences and they don’t even realise it.

    If you want to get better at real life you have to spend more time in real life, if you want to get better at fantasy you need to spend more time in fantasy.
     
  4. g2stop

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    I think it is actually the same issue.

    Watching porn is a form of brainwashing. You watch a woman you are attracted to but you watch someone else having sex with her therefore it is giving you the subconscious training that you are not worthy to have sex with women you are attracted to. If you go deeper into the brain washing it gets worse and more severe leading to subconscious feelings of worthlessness. This brainwashing is reversed by nofap
     
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  5. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    Yep, read all of those things a thousand times and more in the last 13 months.

    The thing is, i never see those advantages/changings in this time.
     
  6. g2stop

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    So you are saying your life was better when you were fapping? Because that is exactly what you are saying if there was no benefit. If your life was better fapping, then why would you come to nofap?
     
  7. arkad1

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    I'm triyng to understand if this is placebo or what.

    For now i think there are some very small advantages, but they're like 1% of what the NoFap promote.
    A real advantage for example is pied improvement, for who have that problem, which i don't.

    For the other side, withdrawals are terrible, and terribly long.

    Anyway, 90% of the improvements the NoFap talk about is bullshit and placebo.
     
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  8. g2stop

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    If you prefer to objectify women and have low self esteem then porn is a good choice. If you can’t see that you objectify women less (or don’t really care about that) when off porn and also have an improved feeling of self, then nofap is not for you. Nofap is for the people who experience a better life without porn. If you feel you have a better life with porn I would suggest you stick with that. Personally I have a better life without porn. If you still have withdrawal symptoms then you are still an addict.
     
  9. vengeance

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    Bro, you're better than this. You're a champion. Don't be the beta male watching the alpha male having sex. Don't waste your vital energy with pixels. It'll not give you any benefits.
     
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  10. arkad1

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    I don't think you know what you're talking about.
     
  11. g2stop

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    I am a doctor, so know exactly what I am talking about. Withdrawal symptoms do not happen in non addicts. It is caused by overstimulation of certain receptors and when the stimulation is withdrawn the effects manifest. The lack of motivation you describe is a key withdrawal symptom of addicts from porn to alcohol to any addictive substance. It is simple brain chemistry.
     
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  12. arkad1

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    There's people who suffer from withdrawals fir even 2 years, that's why i said you don't know what you talk about.
     
  13. Indurian

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    The superpowers may be exaggerated but with most people there are at least some positive changes.

    However, instead of focusing on what you are not getting through Nofap you could look instead at how Nofap benefits others in the world? Nobody viewing porn means no porn industry and so on.

    Ultimately abstaining is helping you as you are not strengthening pathways etc. Something I also keep coming back to is that it takes alcoholics sometimes a couple of years to recover and see real changes
     
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  14. Jimb0

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    Instead of looking for NoFap to cure your issues, try doing things that you think will make you happy. What are you seeking?
     
  15. IR254

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    You made your standpoint pretty clear in the past, that you think NoFap doesn't bring benefits. Nevertheless, you're now asking for help with stopping porn again. So let me ask this simple question: If you don't see anything good in NoFap, then why do you even want to stop again in the first place? That doesn't make any sense to me.
     
  16. arkad1

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    I'm tyred of seeking...
     
  17. arkad1

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    Yep, nofap gave me what you already know. Tried porn 3 times in the last month, didn't feel better, beside the first time.

    Maybe i'm just so ruined that nofap can't cure me or give me benefits, if i had an answer i would tell you.
     
  18. IR254

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    You don't need to tell me. You only have to tell yourself. Obviously, you don't know what you really believe. It's probably not before you figure that out, that you will feel a change.
     
  19. arkad1

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    What is that? A spritual thing?

    Man, we're not talking abut spiritual things and answers. Either nofap don't work (and it's sure not the magical crazy thing most talk about) or else i'm one of those who need 2 years of withdrawals before seeing any benefits.

    That's it, i don't have to figure out something that will magically make me feel a change...
     
  20. For each year you were pmoing, multiple it by 2 then you'll have how long you need to go hardmode.
     

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