After NoFap, will you masturbate?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by seth, Jan 4, 2016.

After NoFap, do you intend to masturbate occasionally?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Uncertain

  1. seth

    seth Fapstronaut

    I've heard many debates about whether your NoFap journey should involve abstaining from porn or abstaining from porn and masturbation.

    I have tried both streaks, and found when I break a no PMO streak, I relapse completely and fall back to my bad daily habits. However, when I'm purely doing a no Porn streak (allowing for masturbation) I have some control. Half the time, I'll masturbate everyday in a week, but the other half of the time I'll masturbate just once or twice a week.

    Please share your thoughts.
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  2. smokin_joe412

    smokin_joe412 Fapstronaut

    I am going to go without masturbation for as long as possible. I think it will build up the sexual tension with my wife and make every time we are intimate special.
  3. Ser_G

    Ser_G Fapstronaut

    Not this fapstronaut. Personally I view masturbation as a cheap, selfish quick fix for sexual gratification. I have reasons of belief for complete abstinence, and so that when I get married the only thing that gets me off is my wife. I know several young wives who's husband's still masturbate (no porn), and it makes them feel like somehow they aren't enough. Most women want to be valued and treasured by their men, giving up masturbation is one way that I can show her just how much she means to me.
  4. Zinc

    Zinc Fapstronaut

    I will..after 4 years.. just once..
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  5. Heffe

    Heffe Guest

    I'm with @Ser_G on this one. I'd like to give up masterbation forever. I think (this is my opinion) that masterbation is a quick fix to a real need. I think that it's kinda like chewing a stick of gum when you're hungry. Sure, it takes the hunger away for a short time but it's not meeting the need. The human need for physical touch, intimacy, and love will never truly be satisfied by masterbation or pornography. These basic human needs of physical touch, intimacy and affection can only be satisfied by another person. I have strong reasons to believe that this is the way we were designed, but again, this is my opinion.
  6. seth

    seth Fapstronaut

    Important question: Are any of you concerned about not being able to last long enough during sex? In the past, if it was in my control, I'd try to masturbate at least day beforehand. If I haven't had any release for a few weeks, I imagine the difference would be 5 minutes vs 30 minutes
  7. I'm done with masturbation for good (and porn). I've had enough years doing it. It's time to stop. I'll be retaining my semen for good. I'm not even that far in yet, and I can already feel my mind changing. It feels so good.

    Even though this is for life now, my short term goals are 90 days, and then 200 days, and then the rest is history...
    There's no reason to even ejaculate, as ejaculation is not even connected to orgasm. I've had orgasms without ejaculation before, many times.

    I will do everything in my power to never ejaculate again. The only time I might do it, is if I'm having sex, and it becomes just too intense to hold in, but that is a worse case scenario. I still plan to hold. The only time I will definitely ejaculate is to make a child. Other than that, there is actually no need for it. It is just a loss of life force each time.

    I'm very excited about this journey, more than I can express in words. I feel very focused about this.

    I wish you all the best on your journey.
  8. It's not a step too far if you can actually have orgasm without ejaculation. Ejaculation is a loss of life force. These aren't opinions, they are facts. However, what you do is up to you.

    Ejaculation and orgasm are not connected. You can have one without the other.
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  9. at this stage, I will be realistic and say yes I will probably fap after I see improvement in my sexual response with real people. Personally I see nothing wrong with it if i is not causing you issue in other aspects of your life, it'll just be something that is done very rarely, and in cases, where I'm literally frothing at the mouth like a rabid beast...
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  10. maybe once every other leap year. or once a decade.
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  11. I'm not really here to debate either, but if you say something I'm doing is a step too far, I will defend it and say it isn't, with facts. I'm sorry. As I said, I didn't state any opinions. I didn't exactly say others have to do what I'm doing.
  12. Loss of life force = You feel depleted afterwards, less rejuvenated. Keep semen in = have longer sex, for hours if you want, feel more rejuvenated after sex, please woman better, have multiple orgasms = FACTS.

    I'm not here to argue with you. I'm not presenting opinions, theories or philosophies, but facts. I'm not sure what the problem is here.
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  13. Masquerade

    Masquerade Fapstronaut

    It depends on people. For some people Masturbation is more addictive than watching porn. So if they are doing NOFAP to reduce dependency on masturbation then starting to do it after reboot( say 90 days or more) may bring them to the addiction cycle again. So its better not to and find some other way to satisfy urges.
    Some people feel masturbation( with or without porn) depletes their energy to do their daily tasks and feel less motivated. So such people can also abstain from masturbation afterwards.
    If you are feeling control on your habits then to continue or not is your choice.
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  14. IGY

    IGY Guest

    I understand what you say in general (I think) @AlltheRageBackHome.

    Notwithstanding, on what basis do you assert that: a man that does not ejaculate pleases a woman better? :confused:
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  15. Red Eagle

    Red Eagle Fapstronaut

    I though about starting to masturbate again but i don't think I will do it. There is no real point. The only real reason why I would do it is to last longer should I have sex.
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  16. FreedomIsHere

    FreedomIsHere Fapstronaut

    No, I consider NoFap as a lifestyle and something permanent. I don't feel like masturbating at all or watch porn ever again, have done it for enough time and I feel it's something that I would be fine with if I was still younger. But I'm 19 and feel like this kind of stuff is a waste of time and effort especially after understanding this addiction more and more.
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  17. NoBrainer

    NoBrainer Distinguished Fapstronaut

    Yes, that is indeed an important question. My answer is: absolutely. :eek: I'm terrified of ejaculating prematurely the first time I have sex. As I do not pleasure myself any longer I have become extremely sensitive down there. I feel like any stimulation at all could set me off (with orgasm/ ejaculation). And it is the sort of thing you would need to discuss with a partner beforehand, therefore opening up a whole can of worms as to the reason why I'm so sensitive and haven't masturbated for so long. Ughh... :rolleyes:
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  18. Because he can generally last longer if he doesn't cum quick, or at all... Not sure how that is hard to understand.

    Women are known for having multiple orgasms, usually easier than men. A woman can have more orgasms, obviously if the man is hard longer and doesn't ejaculate.

    If you want, I could also go into detail about how using this method of retaining the semen while having sex significantly increased sexual pleasure from my end, but sometimes even more so for the woman.
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  19. Yea, I agree. I think everyone should masturbate for some time when they are younger in order to explore, and masturbation is healthy and a part of practically everyone's lives at some(or most) point/s. Saying that, I mean masturbation by itself, porn is the problem. Eventually when you do get into a sexual relationship or just start having sex I don't think solo masturbation is completely necessary and one could definitely go without it as they have another form of release, and a healthy form at that.
    There have been a few quote that I have seen around but one was from C.S.Lewis, and it said that when a man masturbates and fantasises he forms an ideal woman in his head that no real woman can match and that because of this he will never feel the need to leave this imaginary woman and find a real one. So basically what porn does, only porn does this a lot better. I think trying to stop doing it is a pretty good step towards taking responsibility for your own life and living in reality and making the best of it, rather than becoming trapped in the comfort of your imagination.
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  20. SnowWhite

    SnowWhite Fapstronaut

    Well, if it gives you more control, then why not ?
    In general, you need to find your approach, and the whole process out of the addiction goes step-by-step anyway

    However, for me, an orgasm through masturbation is very different to an orgasm during sex.
    Therefore, I don't like to masturbate.

    A masturbation-induced-orgasm flushes totally to my head, and leaves behind a cold emptyness.

    Orgasm during sex is completely different, because you have a partner, you are touching each other, talking, laughing, both of you are orgasming, it goes slower, more in waves, you are cuddling, and so on. It's a totally different experience, a much more "holistic" experience, it gives you not only pleasure, but also bond and self-confidence.

    Masturbation is pretty much like directly injecting a drug. It gives me a quick high flush, but then leaves a cold emptyness, and therefore, it is very addictive.

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