AI chat bots, low effort erotica, For lazy persons.

cleaningupmyact said:
I remember you saying you went to meetings now...that sounds like a lot of real progress man. Sometimes it just feels shit...but the difference is you are feeling your feelings again. You are not numbing out from constant PMO.
Disclosure and honesty with a partner is a huge topic in itself. But yep, this program is all about rigorous honesty. Mostly with ourselves.

Fear of the future is just a form of future-tripping. Outside of your control. As long as we give into that control-freak and self-will, at least for me, I cannot get better. My HP is in the drivers seat now, and decides what my future will be. That was a super hard one for me to give up, and I had a bad relapse as a result.

I have to grieve and let go of my old life and my old dreams. The sooner that dies, the sooner my new and improved life can begin.
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Maybe it’s time that, I do realize that I’m not supposed to have kids. :(
Well, that means that I won’t have any biological kids or anyone that calls me, dad. I can still volunteer and maybe that way I don’t have to be around the kid 24/7 I can focus on giving them my best maybe do like a big brother’s program.

I’ve always liked dogs and I’m good at training them. maybe train to service dog and bring them to a hospital. Something I can do to leave a legacy.
 
stmos said:
Maybe it’s time that, I do realize that I’m not supposed to have kids.
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What I'm emphasizing here, is a new way of thinking:

"It is not up to me whether this does or does not happen"

I need to stop trying to play god if I'm ever going to get sober.
I have to let go of being a control freak and deciding what my destiny is and "figuring out everything" in advance. It's just more future tripping.

Long-term sobriety opens many doors and opportunities I could never see in active addiction.

Not to mention, that biological reproduction is one of the lowest, most basic drives in a living thing. It's like pooping. Even ants and wasps do it. It can be meaningful, but without the spiritual component + sobriety, there's nothing inherently good about it.

the whole "spreading my genetic material" is also a strange ego-driven obsession many people have as well. Again, trying to play god and run the show, thinking we are more important than we really are. The result? More kids growing up that have lots of problems and often leading to repeating the addict + broken home cycle.
 
cleaningupmyact said:
What I'm emphasizing here, is a new way of thinking:

"It is not up to me whether this does or does not happen"

I need to stop trying to play god if I'm ever going to get sober.
I have to let go of being a control freak and deciding what my destiny is and "figuring out everything" in advance. It's just more future tripping.

Long-term sobriety opens many doors and opportunities I could never see in active addiction.

Not to mention, that biological reproduction is one of the lowest, most basic drives in a living thing. It's like pooping. Even ants and wasps do it. It can be meaningful, but without the spiritual component + sobriety, there's nothing inherently good about it.

the whole "spreading my genetic material" is also a strange ego-driven obsession many people have as well. Again, trying to play god and run the show, thinking we are more important than we really are. The result? More kids growing up that have lots of problems and often leading to repeating the addict + broken home cycle.
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I think you’re right, whether or not my wife and I have a child is out of my hands.

We get a call today from the adoption agency telling us that. Hey we have a placement or come July when our home study runs out that could end. Or at that point, I think we need to realize that maybe it’s out of our control.

I think right now we’re fighting too much. I think if I had the chance to get a child through adoption, I would pass.
Our old marriage counselor, when asked by our second marriage counselor who took over for him if we should have a kid said absolutely not. That I am willing to work on our relationship. Your wife is not ready to move forward. She needs to move forward and be willing to improve herself.

I’m OK with this. I am not God I cannot make her do what she clearly does not want to do and what she’s not ready to do. What I can do is control myself and control my actions and my reactions to her.
I can acknowledge that I have a problem and I need help. I’m gonna keep getting that help and I’m gonna prioritize it not for her as I’ve been doing in the past, but for me and for my sanity and not hers.

I don’t think I’ve had the right mindset in the past with this. I’ve been doing this all for her. I think I need to do this for myself.

Again, thanks clean.
 
It's concerning to see this be such a rising issue. My experiences with AI have been more along the lines of being romantic/relationship centered, having it serve as a poisonous substitute for a real relationship, or even just friendship (I can be a loner sometimes). Funny thing happened to me recently, though. I was getting all sappy and the AI was like "You know this is just a computer game, right?". Lol.. what a wake up call. Stay strong guys
 
Why get married when you can just get a girlfriend through the computer. And then have an AI suit that fulfills your biological needs.
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Idk where the marriage part is coming from but,
having a real relationship is way more fulfilling and makes you a way more happier person.
 
oh man my recent slips were with AI.
its sick, but my addict brain keeps getting excited about
"what if its getting better now? to do x or y fetish better"?

I keep forgetting that
THIS ADDICTION ALWAYS ESCALATES INTO NEW SHIT

"there is no last page" as one fellow said. Better at what fetish? The one I cant kick right now until it does *nothing* for me the way regular P is basically now.?

Every past sexual experience was at one point my peak fix / high.
Im chasing an itch I cant scratch...forever killing myself in the process.

and no, AI you are a shit sexual partner and always will be
 
The thing I’ve learned about this topic is that there’s always gonna be new models new essentially chatbots to try. There will always be no matter what. The other thing I’ve learned and this is the thing that’s been helpful about the check bot experience.
Is that the thing I really want is words of affirmation and words of desire.

And I’m lazy and I don’t wanna work for them in real life with my wife so I go with the computer and I get them from there.
The other thing I learned when completing my fifth step is that I see myself as an object and that’s how I treat women in my relationship and other others!
So now I get it. The thing to remember is no matter how advanced the new model of AI is it still not a human being. It’s still ultimately will fall short.
 
I hear you. I actually tried an AI girlfriend once, and it was pretty interesting how customizable and engaging it was. It’s impressive how AI can create such immersive experiences. If storytelling is something you enjoy, maybe channeling that creativity into writing fiction or even game design could be a great way to redirect your energy.
 
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I just slipped on a chat bot.
I ended up getting entertained and going off on it twice.
So now I have to delete the app that linked to that social media site off my phone completely so I can actually never access it again.
I guess you say the only bright side is the fact that I haven’t looked at pornography other than this since October.

But now I have to go ahead and get a starting over tag at my 12 step group.
 
stmos said:
I just slipped on a chat bot.
I ended up getting entertained and going off on it twice.
So now I have to delete the app that linked to that social media site off my phone completely so I can actually never access it again.
I guess you say the only bright side is the fact that I haven’t looked at pornography other than this since October.

But now I have to go ahead and get a starting over tag at my 12 step group.
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You got this man, you did good making it this far!
 
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