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Almost 3 years of flatline - few thoughts & a message of hope

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, May 20, 2020.

  1. So here we are guys,
    i don't know from where i should start, i wish i was writing a success story instead of this but that's not the reality.
    Basically i've been (as the title suggests) into flatline for almost 3 years (31 months actually). I've been suffering with all the symptoms others flatline sufferers reports but mostly with severe anxiety and depression for all this time.
    I am 25 and i discovered porn when i was 9 (only 9!!), little did i know about the damage i was doing to myself (it was even something i kinda went proud of) and in the following years i became really, really addicted to it.
    Yesterday night i was realizing how much porn took away from my life, basically everything (friendships, enjoying life for what it is and for what i had, etc etc....)but the biggest thing it took away from me it was basically myself, everything about me was distorted by porn and being honest i was basically a shitty person!
    And here i am now suffering with all these symptoms for almost 3 years (since i quitted everything), it may sound weird for lots of you thinking"oh it can't be a 3 years flatline you must have other underlying problems" and honestly i wish i had because so i would had already solved them in another way, but unfortunately this is the brain healing from that addiction, i feel it.
    These 3 years have been a nightmare (which i won't go through it now) but also full of relapses (mainly without porn). I know i didn't have to relapse and that's not an excuse but guys suffering with all this stuff for 3 years is no joke and many times i gave up, last time was just few minutes ago.
    But why am i writing this message?? To talk you about all these negative stuff?
    No, it's because even if i am going through all of this, even if i relapsed so many times i am still here after all these years losing a battle after another battle and standing up and retrying again and again and again because i won't give up till i will completely win this war! And so you must!
    Once a really good friend of mine said me "If you resist and persist, you will reach and conquist" and that's my message and blessing for me and for everyone of you on this forum, don't give up, enjoy life! Peace
    A.
     
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  2. Hatseflats

    Hatseflats New Fapstronaut

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    Those relapses are definitely slowing your reboot down by a lot. Relapse is not an option if your addiction was severe.
     
  3. yes i know you're right!! But the thing is you know after one year passed streak and still struggling with all these symptoms you start to think this can't be porn withdrawal and so sometimes in the darkest points of my depression i lost all hope i had in the recovery and i relapsed! I tried everything, literally everything, going to a psichologist, cold shower, exercise,meditation, yoga, fasting, going keto and yes some of these things helped a bit and for a while but none of those cured me. These are are porn withdrawal and now i know for sure,on the internet it's plenty of cases like mine of people who recovered after 2 and passed year of flatline. That's the price we gotta pay for being such s***head when we were younger and stupid as hell.
     
  4. I have almost 6 years since I have discovered nofap and im still in the reboot stage like I'm stuck w symptoms and paws.

    School friends and family members of my age seem doing good in life such as having kids, getting married or working on what they learned at school.
    Me, personally, I went to make changes at age 26 while fighting to stay away from pmo. Unfortunately the addiction already blown my brain and it took 1 relapse to delay my progress by large margin. That's one of the reasons I'm still suffering to reboot.
     
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  5. for me it's 4, 1st year i discovered it was mainly a try , i would have gone maybe one day than relapsed then 2 etc etc, from the second year i took it more seriusly and there the nightmare began
     
  6. but the worst thing unfortunately it's neather for me nor you but for the future generations unfortunately...they're what scares me the most! i think we'll see even longer and worst flatline as time goes by with newer generations.
     
  7. LoveIsAllWeNeed

    LoveIsAllWeNeed Fapstronaut

    You were NINE YEARS OLD! How can you say you were stupid? Your mind wasn't even fully developed!! You're punishing yourself for something you did in a phase you were supposed to make mistakes. How could you know what would happen?

    I don't buy the idea that flatline is the price you pay for your past behavior. Science has proved that even in severe cases of brain damage our brain can make new neural connections and recover. Whatever P has done to your brain, it can be undone.
    What you could do is visualize your brain making new positive connections. Say to yourself for example 'I love myself for undertaking nofap' and at the same time see a new neural connection (pathway of light) lighting up in your brain. Do this a couple of times with different affirmations you really feel strong about and see what happens.

    The bottomline: Change your way of thinking, be considerate to yourself and others. Don't judge or be aggressive, you're learning how to be a better person, not just changing your fapping. Give yourself credit for that.
     
  8. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I needed it so much, i really appreciated your comment! And... i will start doing that exercise starting from tomorrow morning :)
     
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  9. MyWish

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    It just shows how strong you really are, fighting this for so many years(even if you're not reaching the success yet) is amazing on my eyes and you should higly appreciate yourself! Keep fighting, keep trying! I know that you could reach it, it's something that worth your fight for and we're here for you to listen and hopefully help you reaching it! I wish you an amazing day and life as well! Don't give up, your will-power is truly something you should be proud of! :D
     
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  10. llortaton

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    • Go to a therapist.
    • Take daily Vitamins - This will quicken the healing
    • Change your diet for the better, so you get the most nutrients out of it.
    • Use your computer and phone, only at the library.
    • Ask god for help, and pray a lot.
     
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  11. AspiringVitality

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    3 year long flatlines do happen, but in most cases it's because of relapses.

    All these things you mentioned that helped a bit, pick these things up again and stay at it. And stop relapsing forever.

    You will get there :emoji_muscle:
     
  12. Thank you so much!! really, wish u all the best too!!
     
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  13. I will, thank you!!:emoji_muscle::emoji_slight_smile:
     
  14. serhpy

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    These faltlines are cause of relapses bruh..

    BTW can anyone please read my latest cause I need some advice and I'm new to NoFap and I'm only 14 years old
     

  15. Well my friend it seems like you are going threw a pretty rough part. I honestly didn't have a flat line that elongated for that long. Especially when I quit way back in 201.

    You know what I actually do to tackle these flat lines is simple. Work on your chakra's and meditate my friend. Especially your emotional and self esteem areas like your Sacral and Heart Chakra. I remember I did this for about two weeks back in 2017 on my heart and I felt significant changes. I started seeing numbers like 1:11 2:22 constantly in times. I even challenged myself I would get a girlfriend and focusing on this area for a while. I had achieved my last wonderful relationship until today that lasted 2 years.

    Definitely work on your Heart my friend and the flat line with subside. My theory is that your stuck in your Sacral and its healing from this period of time of low self esteem and love. Of course your body is in that state because of the withdrawal. Almost like it doesn't know what to do in the "dead zone"and countering it with the flat line. Anyway I hope this helped you some what. Just from my past experience and what has actually helped me.

    Good luck. :)
     
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  16. Yeah man that's crazy what you are writing me! Thank you so much, i will put an extra effort in it!! You know one of the things that helps me the most is doing yoga (i don't know how the hell it works, just by stretching your body, i can not understand it...but it works, i feel slightly better when i do it). And you know what, it's been a month or so that every day, every single day when i watch the clock i always see numbers as 20:20, 13:13, 15:15 and this happens 3 5 7 time a day!! In the first days i was thinking "oh wow what a nice coincidence" but then after weeks, every day this happens and i'm like "ok wtf is happening here, this is so strange it never happened me this before". Just yesterday i was googling about what this does mean and now you are speaking about it in a post...that's crazy!!
    May i ask you what kind of exercise you did for you heart chakra (and your chakras in general)? My daily routine (i may skip a day or 2 but i try to be consistent) are in order as i do them: 5 minutes of Nadi Shuddhi, 5 minutes of Wim Hof respiration, 40 minutes of Vinyasa yoga and then sometimes in the afternoon i do simple vipassana meditation for 20 minutes.
    Thank you so much!!!
     
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  17. If I were you I would stop anything that got connection with yoga, meditation, "self help/ self improvement movements". I speak from my own experience, these things will not help you, they even got the chance to make things worse. About Wim Hof respiration, it is bad. What you doing with Wim Hof breathing? You over breathing, then you does not take any breath. It will activate fight / or flight mode in your brain, then your brain go into fainting mode. Just like when an animal being hunted by a preditor, and caught. It even got the possibility to cause nerve damage. Guess why it gives you high feeling, because you trolling with your nervous system.
    Cold showers are same, they activate fight/flight more, maybe contrast showers are ok.

    If you does not believe me, you may google what kundalini syndrome mean, induced by yoga, meditation. If someone tells you those things will pass, you just need to meditate more, then run! That is a big red flag for bullsh!tism.

    If someone tell you meditation is all healthy, ask them about this study:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5443484/

    If you looking for something that can really help, in my opinion then I suggest looking into the red light therapy/photobiomodulation topic. I suggest looking up the possible side effects from that too, if you try it.
    https://www.theenergyblueprint.com/red-light-therapy-ultimate-guide/
    https://www.selftestable.com/red-light
     
  18. Thank you for sharing your opinion man! I absolutely disagree with you for lots of reasons...but thank you anyway for your comment! :)
     
  19. yw! I can only hope you will not explore the road I did, so you can be saved from a lot of unecessary suffering.
     
  20. Well honestly i've always meditated through my all life and it always helped me a lot under different aspects, recently i started doing yoga and it also has been impactful in a positive way for my life...
    i see these things (meditation, yoga etc) as a tool (like a knife) that if u use it correctly you can heal and improve lots of aspects in your life but that also if u use them unproperly you can "cut yourself"...
    You know today's medicine is showing us that 80% of ailments come from food but from there to saying that food is dangerous for you there's a lot of distance.
    Even fasting is super beneficial...but if u fast for too long you die ahahahah
    By the way if u wanna share your experience i will listen to it with an open mind
     
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