Almost a year, no concrete advantages, i think nofap is placebo...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by arkad1, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    So, i started nofap at the end of may 2018, hard mode till november, then had sex 2 times a month and masturbated probably 10 times.
    I started using a dating app on january, and masturbated on pics girls sent me there. Beside that, i never watched porn in this timespan.

    So, after a year i didn't see any of the incredible advantages people talk about, i don't fell any woman attraction thing, i still have social anxiety, i'm not different in any way.

    The only advantages i noticed is hat my backpain has gone, and my skin cleared up a little.

    So, for now i just think nofap is 95% placebo...


    I was almost forgetting, i never had any problem at lasting 15 20 minutes at least in bed, sometimes a lot more. Now that i'm on nofap it's sometimes difficult to last even 3 minutes, it's really terrible, i can't even enjoy sex this way...

    So, little advantages, and a big problem about lasting in bed, not a good deal i think...
     
  2. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    It's because you haven't done nofap in the first place!!
     
  3. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    What are you talking about?

    Did you read anything of what i wrote?
     
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  4. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    Yes . You are masturbating to pics of girls !..wtf is that if it's not PMO?!. Maybe it's not officially porn site. But does it really matter .?.whether t's porn site..or pics on some app..or even a magazine ..if it's artificial then it's pmo.period.
     
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  5. arkad1

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    You probably didn't read well.

    I did hard mode till november. Started having sex 2 times a month. Then masturbated 10 times from january (only 4 times on pics girl sent me).

    No advantages, even in 6 months of hard mode, you probably didn't get that...
     
  6. Infinite spirit

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    The last period (from November till now) is not even nofap..you are fapping to images and you are having way too much sexual discharges wether from sex or from fapping .
    As for the first six months.. let me ask you what benefits did you expected to get?
     
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  7. arkad1

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    All the advantages nofap is promoted with, didn't you ever read about them?

    Why are you on this forum?
     
  8. Infinite spirit

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    Yes. And you should experience them as well. Because I'm on day 47 only and I have high energy and high libido and more confident and motivated .
     
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  9. Infinite spirit

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    Keep in mind that social anxiety is a complex issue and there is more to it than just doing nofap .
     
  10. arkad1

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    yeah yeah, experienced that, wait till you are on day 200.

    This say, not everybody is equal, and from what i read here, and what i experienced in almost a year, nofap is not more than placebo.
     
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  11. Infinite spirit

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    It isn't . When you abstain from porn your brain becomes more sensitive and you feel more motivation and energy . Also when you don't ejaculate for long periods..the semen gets reabsorbed into your body making you energized and strong. There is a reason to everything. Nofap is not placebo. Check out "your brain on porn " for more information .
     
  12. arkad1

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    You probably don't understand well...

    I've read the entire ybop site, a lot of times, i said i'm on nofap from may of the last year, do you realize that? Do you think i accomplished that without reading anything? I obviously read all the shit and watched all the videos ted talk you name it around.

    Please, i know you are 21, but use your brain, don't pollute the thread anymore.
     
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  13. IR254

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    I respect your experiences. However, you might have to adjust your expectations and how you look at NoFap.

    NoFap is not a magical pill so to speak. It doesn't make you special or anything along those lines. The only thing it does, is to "reset" your mind to "factory settings". So, if you never developed problems because of your porn use, NoFap won't do anything for you. In other words: If there are no problems to be solved, NoFap obviously can't solve them. It also won't help you greatly, if you have some problems but they are not related to your porn use.

    Also, to believe that not looking at porn alone will benefit you greatly while your entire lifestyle stays the same, is naive at best. You have to work on your life in total. NoFap only gives you the momentum to get your act together and start improving yourself. But if you don't act upon the momentum, nothing will happen. NoFap isn't really the solution. It is more like a tool to start a process.

    But even if everything you say is true, and NoFap is "only" a placebo, what then? The placebo effect is a well documentated phenomenon. We don't really understand how it works, but we know for sure it exists. If we believe we will get better, and we do as a consequence of this believe, isn't that what matters afterall? Why we get better or how this mechanism works, isn't really all that important in the end.

    Maybe you should try out some variations of NoFap. Maybe try to masturbate every once in a while and see how you feel & how long you last in bed. If your sex life improves that way, then maybe that's a better solution for you.
     
  14. Infinite spirit

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    I'm not polluting the thread . This is a puplic forum and I can do whatever I want as long as I don't violate the rules of the administrator .
    I know why you are here ? To convince us that "nofap is bullshit"..fine you are free to claim that..but you have to be able to prove it and to argue with me about it. If you can't ..then you aren't worth to be looked at anyways.
    Peace.
     
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  15. arkad1

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    Ok, i would like to ask you, what benefit did you expect from nofap? What are, for you, the real expectations one should have about nofap?

    And another thing that make me go nuts, is the eople who said that nofap alone does nothing, and you have to pair it with the right lifestyle. But that doesn't make any sense!
    It's like i told you that you should pinch your butt every morning to make your life better, but it work only if you read self-help book and change your lifestyle :D :D that doesn't make any sense! In this way you never know if nofap is useful or not :D

    To make things clear, i read a lot of self-help books on the last 5 years, change my diet, tried a lot of those things, and they work beacause THEY work, nofap has nothing to do with that :D


    This said, i've also been reading this forum from august of the last year, and the majority of people just experiment terrible things in nofap, and the advantages are always very vague, many times mixed with advantages due to other self-help disciplines.

    It's all very smoky, very unclear, and i talk with a 1 year experience...
     
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  16. IR254

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    @Infinite spirit, you know, that I don't agree too much with your opinions in general. But you are always very impulsive and get heated very easily. You also violated the terms of service multiple times, when you called me all kinds of things. That's clearly against the forum rules.

    Maybe you should work on your temper and try to stay calm. You always go into "fight mode" as soon as someone doesn't agree with you. Also, I noticed that you are online a lot. Everytime I check the forums for a couple of minutes, you're online and posting something. Maybe you should try to not preach to others so much, and instead do something in real life. Of course, it's good to be active in the forums, but maybe you're overdoing it.

    I'm not saying this to offend you by any means, but maybe you should think about it.
     
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  17. arkad1

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    Prove it? I'm bringing one year experience to this, you're bringing 45 shitty days, what are you talking about? proofs?
     
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  18. Infinite spirit

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    That's the proplem. I'm only on day 45 and I feel on top of the world..how come you are one year on nofap and you don't feel any different ?!scientifically speaken. You MUST feel difference .beacue your reward circuit becomes more sensitive when you abstain from the drug(pmo) for so long..so either you are lying ..or you haven't been addicted in the first place..or you don't know what to expect.
     
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  19. arkad1

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    Or, another thing is, you don't know anything about nofap, you don't know that you can start having terrible withdrawal symptoms after 80 days of feeling great, you don't know that you can have withdrawals symptoms up to 2 years on nofap, you don't know that some people just don't fell good at all even after a year on nofap.

    You don't know nothing john snow, thanks for your participation in the thread.
     
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  20. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    You said it yourself ..maybe this is what is going on with you and nofap is not placebo. So Shut the fuck up and keep going.
    You're welcome buddy!
     

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