Almost a year, no concrete advantages, i think nofap is placebo...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by arkad1, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    The last word I will be saying to you .don't go back to pmo. You know better. Bye.
     
  2. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    You have never been the smart guy in the neighborhood, right?
     
  3. arkad1

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  4. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    Your game will fail eventually no matter what you say. Because the truth is inescapable .
    Good luck.
     
  5. IR254

    IR254 Fapstronaut

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    Well, if this is what you experienced, nobody can argue with it. That being said, I like to believe otherwise still. There is just too much scientific & anecdotal evidence, as well as own experience involved.

    The reason why you don't feel much difference might be, that you had good habits all the time. I know you'll be coming back with your argument, that NoFap (or not using porn) doesn't work then, but all NoFap is, is a so called "keystone habit". That means it's a change of behavior, that leads to more radical changes, which would not have been possible without the initial keystone change. Since you had good habits along the way, NoFap couldn't really spiral you upwards any more.
     
  6. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    That's just common sense but he pretend he doesn't get it when even a kid can understand this. I hope he accept the truth. I do care about helping him.
     
  7. Jonny1992

    Jonny1992 Fapstronaut

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    @arkad1

    Well, if it doesn’t work for you, it is so.

    But it doesn’t mean, that it works for nobody.

    Don’t give up. Search for your answers and find something that helps in your life.

    If you search you will find something.
     
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  8. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    That doesn't sound good to me...
    As i said, i got better result in life when i was fapping and watching porn than in this year of nofap...
    It doesn't sound good to me because if nofap doesn't work without diet etc. it is clearly just a placebo...

    The most overrated thing is woman attraction, i think that is just a really big placebo spread around by youtubers and kids.
     
  9. arkad1

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    I would like to ask you, what do you mean when you say that nofap works?
    What kind of advantages are you expecting? What changes in your life are you expecting?
    What do you think are the advantages that someone should expect by not fapping?
     
  10. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    What does this have to do with Anything?!. Life has it's own course regardless of whether you fap it or you don't . I could do nofap for a year and then get a car accident and break my legs and that will be a terrible year a for me..what the fuck does this have to do with nofap?
    That's the most ridiculous ..stupid ..naive ..childlish..insane argument to ever exist. Do you even have a brain?!..its like saying if lifting weights doesn't make gain muscle except if I eat protein ..then lifting weight doesn't work!!
    Please stop arguing with him..enough stupidity
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    It's fucking not. It happens even between animals..its called "pheromones " and it does attract mates from the opposite sex . When you retain your semen..your body has more pheromones to attract the females so you can ejaculate with them and reproduce to .thats how nature works.
    You make zero fucking sense.. You must be ashamed of yourself.
     
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  11. Jonny1992

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    I once read a book about depression, how to get rid of it. David Burns, Feeling Good.

    He said that there is not a single method, that can heal 100% of the people. So a therapy can help maybe 8 out of 10 people.

    For the other 2 people there are other methods, that will help them.

    NoFap works for me because it helps me feel better. More self control. Less depression and anxiety. For example I actually compare automatically with male pornstars, and have self issues. And I am objecting people.

    I don’t want that. On nofap, I am less on porn and have more time for good habbits.

    And what I expect for the future, that I can give my wife the feeling that she is good enough for me.

    This is what I want.

    I hope my answers are ok for you.
     
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  12. BigOne79

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    Yeah, and attitude, the way you dress, talk, speak also attract girls too. I have not looked into the pheromone details as well so not going to totally write you off about that. Now, my complexion has been looking better but quitting fapping has caused me to lose over 50 lbs and I have gotten some sun as well so that does help a lot as well.

    Any articles you have to share about the pheromone idea that you talked about ....

    Also, Arkad seems like a troll now with responses saying that nofap doesn’t work. He’s still obviously too young to relate to others been doing it for a decade or more..
     
  13. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    Yes and no...

    I mean, to me it looks like that nofap result are smoky, but more or less i got what you're expecting.
     
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    Maybe it is a placebo, maybe it isn't. The thing is: It doesn't matter. When people feel better, it doesn't matter how the underlying mechanism works. If you don't experience any benefits, there is nothing I can do to help you. I can only repeat what I said multiple times already. NoFap is mainly a keystone habit, that spirals you upwards and makes it possible to make other significant changes, that the average addict wouldn't undergo without it. If you were strong enough to make changes on your own, good for you. But I can tell, I would have never than the things I started after I found NoFap. This upward spiral keeps going and keeps getting better over time. I clearly feel it. When I went back to porn in my "fuck this crap"-phase, I felt this drive break apart.

    You're being extremely rude once again, dude. You need to chill.

    I'm not arguing with him. I'm exchanging experiences and thoughts about the issue. That's all. You should try that. It's way better than arguing.
     
  16. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    You shouldn't give him a micro second of your time after that last message. No sane person can say that.
     
  17. Jonny1992

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    Congrats. Good for your :).

    I will respect your decision. Go your way, its your right.

    Bye bye
     
  18. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    Did you experience those advantages about women yourself or you only read about it?

    Thanks for calling me obviously too young, at 33 it happens less and less.
     
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  19. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    You are the one giving me more attention by writing so much in this thread, why don't you just go away and give the thread zero attention?
     
  20. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    Because I care about clearing the confusion to people from your bullshit .poor people who will go back to pmo and destroying their lives.only if they are insane enough to believe this nonsense .
     

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