Almost a year, no concrete advantages, i think nofap is placebo...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by arkad1, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    Scared of finding yourself after a year as shitty as before right? If nofap doesn't set your life you have no other hope right? You must hope it works, with all yourself...

    Reality will kick you hard in the nuts kid...
     
  2. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    It's already working and I'm experiencing huge benefits . Benefits you could only dream of if you go back to pmo .
     
  3. Xander_

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    Ey, calm down guys.

    I believe you have to do what works out for you personally. We are all same, but at the same time very very different. I do not understand the point of some people taking it too personal and trying to argue.

    Here's the way i see it lets assume that NoFap is a placebo, and lets ignore all evidences that imply the contrary ... Lets say NoFap is a placebo, if such placebo effect is so strong to help me improve quality of my life beyond any imaginable level(and hundreds if not thousands of other people's too), i would still not discredit the NoFap, because thanks to its placebo effect i would still manage to improve something that wasn't right in my life. That's a good thing, aint it ?

    You are the one who defines NoFap for yourself. Some people do not watch porn, but masturbate, some have sex but do not watch porn and masturbate, then there are people going complete hardmode, combinations are limitless. Why ? because you're the one that decides what's best for you. We're not the same.

    Perhaps its not NoFap being a placebo, perhaps not. You should be aware, it has been said many times for you to completely recover properly you must give up complete artificial stimulation. That includes porn, masturbation to pics of other girls etc.

    Each to its own, but arguing about stuff like these is pretty much useless.
     
  4. skibum71

    skibum71 Fapstronaut

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    Dude, stop making this crap up. You make yourself look like a dumbski. It's exactly this sort of unscientific bullshit/wishful thinking that is a huge disservice to the community.
    From scientificamerica:
    "Yet to demonstrate definitively that pheromones are at work, researchers need to point to the molecules responsible, which they have not yet done. To date, scientists have collected evidence for possible pheromone effects but have not definitively identified a single human pheromone"
    Like I said - stop making shit up.
     
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  5. jarvyjarvison

    jarvyjarvison Fapstronaut

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    I went on a 6 mo. streak last year. I didn't experience any super powers, I was still depressed, I felt like shit. Women weren't magically attracted to me. The only things that changed were internal for me: a renewed sense of self-respect and more respect for women, which is nothing to sneeze at. There's a lot of guys on here who are more skeptically minded like me who think nofap is 99% bullshit. Personally, I think Your Brain on Porn is pseudoscience. It sounds science-y but it's really not. That's just my experience. YMMV.
     
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  6. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    True. Pornhub is a click away. Why are you wasting your time in our bullshit forum when you can fap to pornhub all day like an alpha man?!!
     
  7. arkad1

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    I totally agree with that, the thing is, when and where does nofap improve the quality of life beyond imaginable levels?
    The majority of success stories i read (and in a year i probably read all of those available on the internet :D), about 80% are about some smoky not concrete advantages, with also some disadvantages. the other 20% is people who said they have improved their life, but they're also into self-help books, good diet, excericising etc. And then there is say a 0.5% of stories of guys that report that womans are jumping on them.

    The thing is, for what i learned in this year, most of the advantages of nofap are actually due to other things, self-help, better diet, excercising, meditating.

    After a year, from what i learnt, i can only say it's very smoky, the thing i can say for sure, there is no improve of life quality beyond imaginable levels, i would like that, but that is just not real.
     
  8. arkad1

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    About this part, i have done monk mode for 6 months, than i had sex say, 12 times from november and masturbated probably 8 times, 4\5 on pics of girls sent me.

    I don't think that 1 times sex and 8 times jerking off in 5 months (after 6 of monk mode) would denied me any incredible change in my life i would have witnessed without it.
    If woman attraction is true, i would probably have seen a sparkle of it.
     
  9. Infinite spirit

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    Here is the benefits of nofap:
    Good quality erections.
    High libido.
    High testosterone.
    Confidence .
    Good mood.
    Being able to enjoy the little things in life.
    Stronger body.
    Female attraction.
    More time.
    Sharp mind and focus.
    High energy.
    Not objectifing women
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    Here is the "benefits" of pmo:
    Erectile dysfunction .
    Premature ejaculation.
    Changed sexuality .
    Objectifing women.
    Low energy.
    Brain fog.
    Social anxiety.
    Depression .
    Suicidal thoughts.
    Weak body.

    I'm not a crazy ass person..i can choose what's better for me.
     
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  10. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    Thank you, really, you have a lot of patience with kids.
     
  11. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    I don't care if I get trolled as long as I'm convinced with what I'm saying . If i scream the truth then I don't fear anything or anyone. The truth is the truth.
     
  12. jarvyjarvison

    jarvyjarvison Fapstronaut

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    This is a matter of opinion, not truth.
     
  13. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    I know he is just lying. He didn't done nofap. He is just a porn addict.
     
  14. Xander_

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    Alright, if you think you found out what it's really about, maybe its time to move on and incorporate something else than NoFap that's going to help you out with dealing and fixing the negative stuff from your life.

    When i said improving life quality beyond imaginable levels, this is very subjective view. What you, me and the rest consider living a life "beyond imaginable levels" is a very different thing. Therefore, to you it may seem as something not real, but to me it may as something that's possible to live through.

    Anyways, in the end i disagree and agree with you about some things you said, you're the one in charge of your life, therefore if you think or know that NoFap is just a placebo and are convinced that its not what its represented to be hopefully you will be able to find ways to fix the negative aspects of your life that bother you, in some different way.

    Cheers.
     
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  15. Infinite spirit

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    So do you think that porn is not bad as a matter of fact but rather arguable?!!
    Please answer me.
     
  16. jarvyjarvison

    jarvyjarvison Fapstronaut

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    Yes, it's debatable.
     
  17. Infinite spirit

    Infinite spirit Fapstronaut

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    How ?!. Porn fucks the brain natural sexual response and causes erectile dysfunction . Porn twists your view on women and makes you objectify them as sex objects . Porn industry is immoral and most of the pornstars are raped and unhappy with their life they are addicted to all sorts of substances . Internet Porn contains all kinds of weird and fucked up fetishes and genres very destructive to the human mind and will promote you to do weird things in real life.
    Porn is bad .sir. It's not arguable.
    Can you watch porn again in your Life ?!
    If the answer is yes. I'm sorry. You are headed for a lot of suffering before you eventually came to the same conclusion ..porn is pure evil.
     
  18. jarvyjarvison

    jarvyjarvison Fapstronaut

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    I would say a little porn here and there isn't so bad. It's when it's taken to excess that it becomes a problem.
     
  19. arkad1

    arkad1 Fapstronaut

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    The guy is sick, i think he has some really deep issues.
     
  20. Infinite spirit

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    No. Thats untrue for two reason :
    1-the principle itself..watching other MAN having sex with a woman you like while you sit there and fap to him..do you know what this is called?!
    Do you agree about using women as fuck objects like how they do it in porn . Women are human beings and porn treat them inhumanly . If you support porn the you support objectifing women .period.
    2- porn is addictive and escaltive .there is no porn in moderation. If you allow yourself to watch it then you will allow yourself to binge on it. Like heroin. There is no such thing as heroin in moderation .thats Palin stupid.
     

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