AMAZING Read For For Those Which Question NOFAP

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Exit the Matrix, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. Exit the Matrix

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    Here is one clipped out quote to get your attention how amazing this information is and how fluid it will resonate with you:

    "The energy that is wasted during one sexual intercourse (AKA FAPPING) is tantamount to the energy that is spent in physical labour for ten days or the energy that is utilized in mental work for three days. Mark how precious is the vital fluid, semen! Do not waste this energy."

    Link to full read:

    https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/sivananda/brahmacharya-section-1-phenomenon.htm#6953

    Amazing website with multiple sections. Simply reading this website top to bottom will answer all of your questions based on sexual transmutation and the importance of semen retention and its pure benefits.


     
  2. Hastened

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    Quite honestly this is not a valuable source for anyone living in a western society and is either interested in- or is serious about retention or celibacy.

    Way too much Hindu / Yoga thought here. Way too abstract. You lost me at the word "sins".

    Why no mention of the concrete benefits? What about the calming of your mind, no longer run on bad habits? What about the benefits in concentration in everyday activities? What about making our extremely busy lives easier?
     
  3. Captain!

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    Seriously in western society they promote masterbation as healthy.
     
  4. Newbiezzz

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    You can't be focused, calmed or feel very easy to accomplish tasks all the time. Life is messy but we have to live in it anyway. Eastern cultures have completely different understanding of God,nature and oneself. They see the progress of an event as an continuous act, not a result of letting go of something. We humans are always improving with our ups and downs. There are no concrete benefits which will come to you simply because you quit something hahahahaha. This kind of thinking way is harmful and you shouldn't do something in order to get benefits just to throw them away later.
     
  5. Zeeshaan

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    The sivananda book on Brahmacharya is best book in the world.
     
  6. matt2k12

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    what does it say about wet dreams? those who you cannot control. in those cases, where the individual watches his mind and actions throughout the day so he wouldnt get any sexual thoughts.
     
  7. cd013

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    Shouldn't the same apply to sex more or less?
    From my research I found out that fapping is neurologically damaging while actual sex has a different effect on your brain. Also, it's good to empty your nuts every once in a while otherwise you go crazy
     
  8. Captain!

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  9. Exit the Matrix

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    It depends. Sex with or without the condom? Would the condom prevent 'sexual energy' to be transmitted from the female to male's genitalia ?
     
  10. I'm The Chosen One

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    Depending on ejaculation(not wet dream), mineral and vitamin loss is real and I have experienced this.(blood test).It makes me mad when people say that masturbation is healthy.
     
  11. Yeap. I know a guy who went celibate in his 40s, he's about 10 years in. He tested his blood and came healthier than a new born. He does some sports like basketball occasionally and lots of meditation where he's got many achievements as well. This practice is real man.

    You will NEVER find a proper (hardmode) celibate man or woman who's at least, say 5! years in, and talk negatively of celibacy. It's always other people. Or people who still watch porn or 'edge'/karreza or do something to release/relax/relapse.
     
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  12. What bloody intellectual nonsense is this idea bro. No the trepidation and stress to get it up is erroding on you. If you feel the dopamine and start sweating you're killing energy internally as well.

    If you want to talk about energy, this energy called prana is divided into 3 states. Ojas, prana, tejas. Ojas will be burned off just getting it up/getting an erection. You burn ojas just drinking coffee or digesting food. But minimal amounts. It is constantly replenished by the body. Getting a boner with dopamine rush you bet you are wasting energy man. Even just thinking of sex and kind of mentally soft relapsing inside you, or melting wishing you had it, ojas is disturbed.
    Even working out wastes this energy. But exercise it's alright. In 24 hours, because the body is healthier and requires ojas to function, you will have produced more energy than you had before you started the exercise. Assuming you sleep and eat well. Not sleeping and staying up late again burns ojas. Being unhealthy burns ojas unnecessarily - this is the key, not wasting more than you make. This is why watching porn leaves people terrorized and drained.
    Prana. This not burned off as easily and only goes out through orgasmic equivalent. SO this is what you feel as kinetic energy, or body heat radiating outwards onto others, or a PUMP in your muscles. The ojas^ feel like just vigorous. If you feel soft against things which cause pain, then you lack vigour or ojas. So watching porn can make you feel disbalanced but you still have the kinetic energy, although you are less rough/manly because you loose vigour or food energy and are left with only psychological type driven energy. Mind only, no body grounded.
    Tejas. This is even more subtle and it makes your skin shinny or beautiful like young children. This one is pure mental juice as opposed to something that protects the body and makes it suitable to obey the mind (prana+ojas). Tejas is pure mental strength. When you concentrate HARDCORE onto something and get absorbed that is the power of tejas. Actually most concentration exercises/practices out there are simply playing around with the energy, forcefully converting prana into tejas. This can make you more focused but the body is feminized and it's kinetic energy weakened.
    If you lust at someone on the street and are mentally soft and feel like you could get an erection from a simply look or ejaculate without even touching yourself, then you will end up leaking tejas. Usually the tejas goes to the other person if next to you physically and are absorbed on them.
    But regardless the tejas will have a weak, unrefined or mentally UNconcentrated quality as well as a sexual bias to it. Similarly watching porn will drain ojas not prana but the prana will be DISTURBED heavily, could take days to calm it down again through the body to flow smoothly as before or say, after a good, healthy workout. AND the prana might obtain a sexual programming to it which will need to be purified through mental concentration. But this means it may arouse you again later on.

    This is why celibates tend to be immune like despite having a full tank and wankers tend to be bloody chained to the bones into lust, unable to think normally even for 5 seconds!, despite having a totally empty tank and unhealthy, tired body. It is because the stronger people are not only filling up the tank but purifying with the sheer amount of VOLTAGE. Like pulling together many, many clouds into one spot, they become powerful, start to produce water, they then control the temperature and wind. This representational allegory equates to sheer mental equipoise, and mental toughness unparalleled.

    These 3 states are states of one and the same energy. Energy gained from food and breathing and it naturally balances across all 3 states. You cannot lack any one state of this energy because they each have unique functions in the body. For example body heating emanating into others is prana only, as well as general protection against rain and wind. Ojas can help to the body to heal faster from cuts/open wounds/etc.
    As such a wanker has very little overall energy and mostly focused as ojas. Normal, healthy people in society, such as your father maybe? :D, or local policeman, will have more energy overall than a wanker but mostly existing in the prana state. Similarly a chess-master player will have most of his prana focused in his head. A driver in his legs. The ojas and tejas kind of flow freely all over. Kind of. But the prana especially flows through what chinese call meridians or hindus nadis. Many people have weak overall energy and the prana doesn't have the sheer power to fill and OPEN or maintain fully open these nadis. It takes 12 years of continuous celibacy with no wet dreams, edging or other nonsense to accumulate this energy enough to allow its state of prana to fully open ALL the nadis. Then you realise the body has all the energy it needs and is fully 'animated'. You store any extra as tejas from there :). This is unseen, in normal society. Even Mike Tyson with his 5 years of celibacy (in his youth + plus an active lifestyle = a noticeable percentage more energy accumulated over time in his body because he wastes considerably less) is a small fry and a long shot to achieving the tejas state fully.
    When you achieve the tejas state you don't need to practice mental concentration exercises anymore and can achieve concentrated mental states that you simply cannot otherwise. These people could probably read a book while standing for 24 hours continuously without wavering !! And that would be considered an easy feat.
    Again, it will take longer than 12 years if you old, like starting at 70/80 years of age, don't exercise in some form, starve yourself, sacrifice, sleep,etc.
    So needless to say building a strong pranic field makes these people very magnetic.
     
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  13. I'm The Chosen One

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    After my first blood test, I started sperm retention and had a 2-month period, during which I taked vitamin and mineral supplements recommended by my doctor.In the second blood test that I had done after 2 months, my vitamin and mineral values had improved and some of them even exceeded normal values...When my doctor saw my first blood test, it was really funny that she thought I was someone who was oftenly eat fast food.(My diet consisted of healthy foods,not fast foods.) Of course I did not mention my pmo addiction to the doctor...Even a healthy diet cannot protect you from lack of vitamins and minerals from masturbation.Thats simple.God bless us all from this addiction.
     
  14. Hastened

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    I disagree with you on the "no benefit" point. There's loads of potential benefits but one has to remember that this is just a piece of a puzzle - in "the messy life" as you call it. What you can get is momentum which can spur you upwards to bigger changes. One chip at a time. For me however the benefits were and still are many, very concrete too. It also helped me gain traction to change a lot of other things in my life. And why should I throw anything away, now or later? If what I do gives me meaning and changes my life for the better? Why regress back?

    My fundamental disagreement with the OP citation is the fundamental viewpoint on division between "West" and "East". Why? Because of a sales-pitch that the Eastern view is somehow better? And what is the definition of "better" in this case? It's not "either-or", it's "both-and"! Reminds me of an anecdote: a New-age seminar with a teacher/leader and many attendees. A student gets to speak: "Teacher! I've become completely free! I don't need anything anymore! I've sold my apartment and all my possessions and now live in my car! I'm completely happy now!" The teacher smiles and answers: "Well if you are completely free, why do you live in a car and not in a castle?"

    TL;DR Don't look at the "Eastern" viewpoint as a form of escape from reality, just like other things. That can lead you down a dangerous road of passivity and in the end depression, if you are not careful. I know this from personal experience. Try out the "Western" way (the material). Set big meaningful goals for yourself and go on making them happen. It'll stir up all kinds of stuff inside of you. Including "spiritual" lessons and nuggets of wisdom when you least expect them.
     
  15. Captain!

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    This is great man, post more of this.
     
  16. Exit the Matrix

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    This was absolutely an amazing read man. Thank you. Very well written !!! <3

    Do you have any books you would suggest where you have attained this information ?
     
  17. Jack@18

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    Hello friends
    I have question?
    Does semen retention cure erectile dysfunction /ED / strong erection.??

    If anyone has answer
    Please tell me I am too much worried about My erection.
     
  18. obviously it does

    But the process will be 10x faster if you workout, at least a small minimum DAILY
     

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