Any atheists/agnostics here?

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  1. Roy G. Biv

    Roy G. Biv Fapstronaut

    As a new member, I've been reading a lot of posts lately, and often I'll get to a part of the post where the person starts quoting scripture, and it loses resonance for me.

    No offense to the good people here who feel they need religion for whatever reasons--I used to be one, so I totally get it--but I would like to focus on posts by people who believe that they themselves are the source of their strength.

    So I was wondering: are there any atheists/anti-theists/agnostics/humanists here? I would be most interested to follow the progress of like-minded people, I feel that would be most helpful to me personally.

    Thanks! And again, best wishes to the religious peeps in their journey.
     
  2. HatePorn

    HatePorn Fapstronaut

    Who is humanist?
     
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  3. Roy G. Biv

    Roy G. Biv Fapstronaut

    Sorry, I don't understand your question.

    If you're wondering what a humanist is, maybe look it up?
     
  4. HatePorn

    HatePorn Fapstronaut

    Naaaa...too lazy....
     
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  5. Roy G. Biv

    Roy G. Biv Fapstronaut

    Ha! ;)

    To me, a humanist is someone who believes in humanity.

    As opposed to a "god" that may or may not exist, but which no one has ever seen.

    I feel that by placing our "faith" in such a massive uncertainty (an invisible being for which there is no proof), we are gambling with our very species. Already we are approaching the brink of self-destruction.

    If we could instead turn away from ancient superstition and put our faith in ourselves, as actual living human beings with great potential to do good, maybe we could transform the way we see ourselves as a species: instead of "guilty, sinful servants of an angry deity" we might see ourselves as intelligent, self-actualized beings with tremendous potential for learning and growth.

    From that perspective, I think we could achieve much greater things. Had we been practicing that all along, we might have colonized our solar system by now. Instead we're fighting amongst ourselves and missing our chance to save the one planet we do have, for the sake of a few extra millions.

    Our self-identity as a species needs to become much more enlightened if we are to survive.
     
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  6. Menta_Na

    Menta_Na Fapstronaut

    Well, i am agnostic, but i am not opposed to spirituality or it's teachings....
    i don't really feel it matters i'm not concerned with anyone else beliefs and some very intellectual people give me reason to think i have a lot more to study when it comes to these things.
    Regardless of which i don't follow any spiritual doctrine, definitively agnostic.
     
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  7. Fortitudo

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    Among with rational considerations I'm an atheist mainly cause it makes me feel better. At least, other more serious considerations took place in my attempt to do what I liked. I believe people are fundamentally different from each other. Some of them still need to believe in something supernatural and it looks to be good for them. My politics is to never mess with others' choises when it leads to useless, vain debates.
     
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  8. I am an atheist too.How you guys doing?Any of you still on NoFap
     
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  9. Diderik

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    Hi muhagg,

    I, too, am an a-----t. I'm doing well, thanks, and you?

    I am, and plan to remain for the foreseeable future, on NoFap. I might only be an orc in the Lord of the Rings Challenge, but I made myself a promise that I would stay p&m free forever, and I plan to succeed. (Besides, I am married so I have an advantage: I get to have as much sex as I want!)

    Kick a$$ at this, my friend, and so will I!
     
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  10. Diderik

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    The group, and I myself in particular, are my sources of strength.

    I consider myself a naturalist, rather than a humanist, because I think Humanism is a little bit speciesist, a little bit too centered around our own species. I suppose that to some this seems like splitting hairs, but to me it is important enough to mention. If I believed in a Higher Power, it would be nature; however, as "Higher Power" is taken to be spiritual or religious, I do not claim one. To me, there is nothing supernatural and no need to believe in it. We are better off without any of that, I believe. I know I am.
     
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  11. I guess I would consider myself a naturalist too. I always found the outdoors a source of strength and can experience that sense of awe walking through a forest or hill top. Usually once that same "spiritual feeling" happens to a religious person they automatically attribute it to god and become more entrenched in their religious beliefs which can be quite limiting to personal growth in my opinion. Ironically they usually feel sorry for or can't comprehend why others don't believe in their god.
     
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  12. Diderik

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    @The Threefold Path
    I fully agree. Most people see an awesome aspect of nature and then attribute it to a supernatural entity, a g-d, a----s, et cetera. There is no need for these attributions. Nature is powerful in itself; it did not need someone or something to start it.
    We do not know everything about the laws of nature or the universe, nor do I expect we ever will, but we need not ascribe the mysterious workings of nature to a g-d or other supernatural force.
    I joined a few humanist organizations recently because I can find no naturalist organizations that accomplish the same things, and these humanist groups, like American Humanist Association (AHA), Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AU), Humanists International (formerly International Humanist Ethical Union, or IHEU), and others, do what I want. They work for separation of religion and government, advocate for many causes common to most nonr-------s people, and generally do the world a lot of good without g-d caused strings attached. Every dollar I give goes toward the causes, not to proselytizing or promoting a belief system.
    Anyway, I have a far better life without g-d belief than I did with it.
     
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