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Any partner with success a year+ after disclosure?

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Deleted Account, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. Looking to hear stories of partners/wives who have successfully navigated the pain and successfully got their relationship back on track (intimacy, no sex outside the marriage, no porn, healthy sex life).

    Anyone out there willing to share what helped you re-build?
     
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  2. WifeInTheDark

    WifeInTheDark Fapstronaut

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    I just replied to your response on my husband's thread (@i_wanna_get_better1 )
     
  3. THANK YOU!
     
  4. i_wanna_get_better1

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    I'll be the first to get the ball rolling. My story didn't have a clear discovery/disclosure event but there was a clear rock-bottom moment.

    I have been an addict since I was a teenager and my escalation had a usual trajectory - magazines, VHS tapes, scrambled Playboy channel, dial up, then broadband internet access. While I was dating my wife she asked if I had ever watched porn or masturbated and I casually lied and said of course not. At the time I just thought it was a bad habit that would go away once I got married.

    But after we got married the problems only got worse. I was capable in the bedroom but my wife found me mentally absent, secretive, and emotionally unavailable. She knew something was off but couldn't put her finger on it. We went to marriage counseling but I was reluctant to talk about my problem. I lied, concealed, and shifted blame and eventually the counseling sessions failed.

    Eventually I went to individual counseling and the therapist said I had obsessive compulsive traits related to masturbation. At the time it wasn't recognized that this was an addiction. I went through the therapy and started medication but that didn't work. During my treatment I disclosed my secret to my wife. At first she was relieved that it wasn't something much worse. At least now she had answers to her questions and everything fell into place. Unfortunately my heart wasn't ready to change and I fell back into my old ways.

    I made any discussion about my problem off-limits. I shifted, avoided, minimized, justified, and evaded any discussion that my problem was getting worse. Eventually ALL conversation became risky because it could at any time turn to my problem. I became more and more withdrawn. Sex felt like work. I blamed her for being mad and upset at me and I mistakenly viewed myself as a martyr. I have no excuse... I was an a-hole for most of my marriage. I couldn't think straight because of the delusional thinking I had adopted. I was in love with my addiction. Over 10 years passed before things changed.

    Things hit rock bottom over a year ago. My wife threatened to move out, take our kids with her, and threatened to tell anyone who asked the real reason unless I changed. That was my rock-bottom moment and I quit cold turkey that night. I researched my problem and discovered that it was an addiction... something I didn't know about when I first went to counseling. Finally I had MY answers and everything I had done and tried fell into place. I was doomed to fail because the things I tried would not work for an addiction.

    I continued to read. I talked to an elder in my congregation to get spiritual help. I joined NoFap to connect with other addicts and to follow my wife's progress. I started an online and personal journal. I started playing games with my children. Eventually I got through my detox and moved through all the other phases.

    I also knew I had to address the problems in my marriage. I had to take ownership and responsibility for all the harm I had caused over our 17 year marriage. There were a lot of unresolved issues that I had avoided. Every night for the first 30 days we would talk. Sometimes I would share what I learned, sometimes we talked about how I felt, sometimes I shared what I wrote. But we always carved out time to discuss something I had done in the past that hurt my wife. She would only put on my plate what I was able to handle that day. I would think about it overnight and the next time I talked I would give a heartfelt and sincere apology. Sometimes I would remember something stupid I did and would ask her how it made her feel. Gradually we worked through the backlog of unresolved emotions. I know that it didn't completely take away her pain but at least it was no longer an open wound.

    Today I am more likely to listen without reacting angrily. I more present emotionally and mentally in general and during intimate time. I try to make eye contact more and acknowledge what she is saying instead of just grunting. I am more likely to bring up when I am hurt or angry instead of stewing over it. We connect more than we ever have. The tension that pervaded the marriage has dissipated. There aren't any emotional landmines out there anymore.

    Unfortunately getting rid of the addiction didn't solve all our problems. It merely got rid of the topmost layer of dysfunction. All the direct symptoms relating to PMO went away but there were some secondary ones that are still persistent. There are also problems that aren't addiction related. Being open to change allowed me to entertain the idea that maybe my idiosyncrasies had a common cause. I possibly have High Functioning Autism or a touch of Aspergers. It's a disappointment that some of those symptoms will never go away. Some things I need to learn to cope with better.

    All in all our marriage is miles ahead of where we used to be. We still have our bad moments but the toxic elements have been removed. We're back to real people having real problems. It wasn't easy to get here but we found our way out of the hell we had been living. I might have done the work over the past year but my wife had been patient with me for years before I woke up from my porn coma. It takes two people working together to battle this addiction and save their marriage.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2017
  5. Sounds very familiar.

    Yes, we did too, but I didn't know about his problem at that time. Blame-shifting - yes. I'm certainly not perfect, but he would do anything to get the spotlight off him or take ownership.

    I wish my husband would give me a voice.

    A while back, I rec'd an emailed apology after I begged for months that he'd take ownership.

    I think right now, my husband cares more about his unresolved childhood issues. (Of course, that is important.) I, however, feel that we need to focus on healing and moving forward as well.

    He has started a journal of his sex history. Maybe he needs to process all that. Fine. Yet, I want to focus on moving forward and rebuilding B4 I spend another 23 years in emotional pain.

    That certainly adds another layer, and I've worked with young people with this issue, so I am familiar. Many people suspect my husband has the same issue. @i_wanna_get_better1 - you are excellent with expressing yourself in written form!

    I'm here. I'm trying to support him and focus on us moving forward and rebuilding. I often feel I care more about working on this than he does. He's a year out from porn and prostitutes (he says). That's great. Since his bottom was a life-threatening psych breakdown, his recovery is slower. He is just starting to wake up regarding the porn & prostitute problem (its effects on our marriage). Sometimes I feel like he is just trying to placate me with minimal effort. Or maybe he is just a baby-stepper. I hope I'm not in the cemetery by the time he decides to make a new commitment to our marriage. He didn't even tell his therapist about the porn and prostitution until I strongly encouraged him to do so. Avoid, minimize, etc.

    We don't fit the typical mold, for sure, b/c of hub's serious psych breakdown. He recently told me he disclosed the prostitutes to "hurt me." Not sure if he said that out of anger or if he meant it. I have no idea where that came from. All I can do is *hope* that he will eventually wake up more and more. Yes - he's a year out - and that's great. But he is *just* starting to appreciate how much this issue impacted the marriage. He's always been more about himself than others (including, me, the wife).

    Congrats to you and your wife on the work you are doing!
     
  6. PugMom

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    I love your story. I actually thought maybe my husband wrote it until I saw how long you were married ;-) It sounds as though you are hyper aware of the pain you caused and want to help ease the pain my talking. I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear a man open to talking. I found out almost two years ago. There are times when I find old emails where I would beg and plead to know what was wrong with our marriage that I had sent to my husband. I have so many questions, even today, two years later. I know a lot of it is my nature as I am very analytical. However, after reading your response above, I realize there is sincere ownership in your tone. I think that is the most important part, owning the issue. I am happy that you and your wife seem to have worked past your discovery. I truly believe that part of the problem is that this is such a new (not the act itself, but, the illness that has come from it) epidemic and there just isn't enough knowledge out there at this point, let alone support for both parties. When my spouse went to SA meetings, there were only two near us and both were very far away. I am hoping over time that will change.
     
  7. Me too. Understanding this issue from a "scientific" perspective (the addiction and such) helps me "get it."

    I hear it, too, and good work @i_wanna_get_better1

    Seems that way to me as well. Actually, it seems as though there is much, much, much more guidance for the addict and barely anything for the spouse/significant other (and some of the "help" for the spouse is actually very harmful). Sigh.
     
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  8. stacey

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    We are brand new. But I feel like we are on a great track for healing. I found out everything 2 weeks ago. Within 48 hours he was takin full responsibility. He still didn't understand the full
    Implication la of what her done to us. He's still learning that. But every day we talk about it a lot. He journals and is really working on self discovery. He shares things with me. He apologizes maybe too much. He's so worried about my own health and checks in with me regularly about how I'm feeling and how I'm doing. I see a full recovery for us.
     
  9. PugMom

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    Stacey, I realize I haven't replied in awhile, I haven't been on until today. However, this is such great news. It sounds like your SO is going to be fine and you guys will come out of this stronger. I'm so very happy for you.
     
  10. 12years2kids

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    Thank you.
    To both of you.
     

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