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Are we the same person throughout life?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Victimofcircumstamce9977, Feb 19, 2021.

  1. I guess where im coming from is, as we move through life, are the experiences that once had a dark grip on you at one point no longer as strong a hold as you get older? I dont wanna say what it is that i feel is holding me captive right now ive posted it many times i dont want to be redundant but Im finding myself being tortured at the moment because of certain experiences. Is the more i become further removed from these events and create new ones, the more im able to let go and no longer be held down by these things of the past? They’ll still be there in the past though, Id still would have done the acts, I cant change that. But i dont have to be that same person from the past i guess?Im asking these to myself kinda rhetorical, been communicating too much in my own head as of late, but if anyone has anything to add, please share, it might help freshen a perspective, including mine. Thanks
     
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  2. You, me, and everyone else is a product of their actions past and present. You can’t do anything about the past actions so you make the present actions as good as you can. Your ideas and feelings about who and what you are are just more actions. Focus on taking actions that increase your sense of freedom. Don’t worry so much about who you are and instead pay close attention to what you do. While it isn’t fair, who you are is largely decided by other people. It’s what you do that you’ve got the most control over. Helpful?
     
  3. Arnuld

    Arnuld Fapstronaut

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    I think the general outline of who we are is developed in childhood and it grows and expands as people age. People do change for the better and for worse. The addicted self wants you to believe that change is impossible. That way the addicted self can stay in the addiction. It wants you to identify as an addict. When I start feeling like my identity is my addiction I say the serenity prayer- “God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. This helps me snap out of my addict self and back to my real self.
     
  4. WHMvsPMO

    WHMvsPMO Fapstronaut

    There are times where a person may not even be much of a person - but not in a negative sense. Because when we're really immersed in certain virtues, like equanimity and compassion, it's not really a matter of personality. You might say there's a lack of personal bias. Although having said that I don't know how much it helps you in this moment, and those moments seem to be mostly temporary for most people most of the time - but the fact that they happen is interesting.

    I'm reminded of people who do a lot of cleansing physically, like juice fasts and such, which will have some impact on the mind though of course it's not a direct relationship and I'm not suggesting that anyone does that as a rule - hopefully people who does it know what they're doing. But it's interesting to look at it as a kind of metaphor, because you're not just trying to let go of the past or whatever accumulation you have in your system, physical or mental, but there's something healthy to displace it. Even if someone did a water fast they are ingesting something instead of food.

    With rebooting of course we're talking about rewiring our mind, and the same could be said as far as food for thought in some form. I really don't think it's a matter of just abstaining from PMO. Just like you'd get faster results if you adopt a healthy diet instead of just stopping really toxic junk food, the same goes for things mentally. Beating ourselves up with guilt and such may actually be keeping those patterns in our minds even if it's in an indirect way. The best way is if we approach everything as new.
     
  5. A8X

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    If the experiences you refer to has caused some sort of trauma in you, then they are most likely to affect you for a very long time. What helped me breaking the chains of the past is by open up and start sharing my experiences with others in a safe environment. In my case it was in a addiction therapy group. Besides lightening the load of carrying secrets, i got the help i needed to process them and thus being able to live more in the present, forging new pathways. If you want to share more details i can give you a more specific feedback.
     
  6. This is very true I needed to be reminded that. Helpful indeed man thank you.
     
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  7. I been tuning in to that inner spark of divinity we all have i believe as of late. It does help. That is absolutely the mindstate of an addict as you said, to keep you trapped in that identity. Im trying to take back control and hopefully the pain of the past will subside or even at some point I am forgiven and the experience is eradicated from my soul. Appreciate the 2 cents man
     
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  8. I wholeheartedly agree. Replaying those guilty and shame ridden thoughts is just adding more rubbish to the pile of shite you made yourself. The WHM is god sent and I am trying to maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle overall instead of just abstaining from pmo because your right, you get faster results and your cleansing the body of all toxins, psycho and physiologically. Approach it all as new. Thanks bro keep breathing!
     
  9. You gotta point, keeping it all bottled up inside doesn’t have a good track record for being the most effective way to deal with these things. I know what you mean, ive kinda lightened the load here and there but for me theres other ways ive released the demons that have benefited me. I have thought about seeing a therapist but these days whats even the point of that. Im sure even therapists need some alone time or someone to talk to in these telling times. I know the answers i seek are mostly within me and theres plenty of validation i can get from all the knowledge out there past and present and use that to help me out and create those new pathways as I go. I know for sure i need to just make better choices. Every choice has a consequence and im paying for said choices now. I need to make better conscious choices. Thanks man
     
  10. WHMvsPMO

    WHMvsPMO Fapstronaut

    Yeah and I don't know if you have a group or an AP but if people work together with all the tools we have just imagine what's possible.. Would call for a lot of coordination though.
     
  11. "Time heals wounds" is a bit overrated, but true if we remember that those wounds leave scars. Whenever you look at those scars you remind yourself of the past, but these are just scars, mere marks of all harsh experiences. You can always try to open the wounds, but why?

    Since I'm a Catholic, two things immediately comes to my mind:
    1 - every single person can change for the better, no matter what hell he/she comes from (I know I did!)
    2 - God has already forgiven you, so you just have to forgive yourself (and that's the hardest part)
    I'm not here to convert you or something, but I think that those thoughts describe every person, especially addicts: we can change for the better, but it's all our free will. Giving up is a choice, but is it worth it? Has your life already done?

    I hope you will find your peace. Stay strong.
     
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  12. Buzz Aldrin

    Buzz Aldrin Fapstronaut

    Yeah people change.
    PMO can make you weaker but for folks like me, you don't realize until later in your life.
    However it's your choice to change for the better once you figure about it.
     
  13. Indeed it is and I’m at that point now. I feel like I can have everyone in the world look at me and say we forgive you yet I still wouldn’t find it in me to forgive myself. But thats my cross to bear at the moment. Stay strong as well brother, peace.
     
  14. Coming from one of the only men to set foot on the moon, your living proof anything’s possible! Haha Appreciate it Buzz!
     
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  15. The only conclusions i can come to as to how i got here is that I fucked up and I was a vulnerable kid and growing up I never had much guidance nor knowledge of self combined with the personal struggles of my upbringing, I was susceptible to a life of depression drugs and eventually pmo which stems from my childhood being sexually abused made my whole mind warped. Man sometimes I still feel like im in dark shallow corner alone because of the fucking fact that my dumbass went and did what i did. I look at the guys i know in my life and I look at them with just a god bless em outlook because i know we all go through our own shit but at least they didnt do this sissy shit i did. Its pathetic and I know it. The only way I know i can come back from all this is through my actions aligned with my thoughts of consciousness, the righteous thoughts. Not those evil sick demented thoughts that have plagued my brain since i was 15 and no longer giving into em. I have to take my power back. I know exactly why i did what i did and how it lead up to that point. Thats where i find some kind of comfort. That i can pinpoint what it was that got me there. And the simple truth and it isnt me deflecting responsibility of my actions i take full accountability, but the truth is I’m not that same person anymore. I was literally in a state of hypnosis without a doubt in a trance. And now im learning to treat myself like i would someone else i care for thank you jordan peterson. I can come back from this. You cant change the past but you know what, I believe if you begin living in the present moment and have a vision of a better future, you can go back in your past and envision yourself doing certain things differently. We humans give up so much power to this world and our sick society but the real power is all within. I just ask everyday god or the universe or whatever to forgive me for going down a misguided path and enable me the strength to move on and live with that spark of energy i once had before my innocence was shattered. Almost teared up typing this. Advice id give is to make sure you dont keep all this bottled up inside like i have. Its okay to talk to someone or find an outlet to release that fire inside you. Dont lose hope and understand you’re only as wise as the ways you went down and where you choose to go decides all that if that made any sense. Sorry for long post. Thanks
     
  16. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    Obsessing about my past basically drives me crazy, so I can definitely relate. I'm best when I'm busy - skiing, being with friends, working on a creative project like some drawing I do, playing piano.

    So, I can let my past rule my life, or try to get beyond it. For me, it's a struggle even with what I've noted above. I go with a philosophy of One Day at a Time. It makes me feel it's all doable, and I try to keep just working on the present moment, what I can or want to do right now.

    Your day counter is at 164 today so, if that's current, you're doing great. Even if it's not current and you need to reset it, you're still definitely in the game, keeping score and you'll succeed.

    Best wishes and stay safe.
     

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