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Are you guys here for the reboot, or are you done for good ?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by johnmicormick, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. ANewFocus

    ANewFocus Fapstronaut

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    While the world needs more recovery tools, it needs ones that are affordable and effective. Too often the best therapy programs and recovery programs are only available to the wealthy.
     
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  2. Angus McGyver

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    I will of course try to make the tools as affordable and effective as possible and I am sure that it will be to the vast majority of men out there. I would say that +90% of men will be able to afford it (on the paper) but they also have to ask themselves the following if they are serious about changing and transforming themselves and their lives:

    -If I am not ready to give up a petty 30-45€ /month for a service/tool that will lead to my liberation from PMO (if followed and applied correctly) and that gives me all of the essential tips, info and advice that I need to know on a silver platter, am I actually serious about my recovery/reboot and my own personal development?
    If someone took the risk and quit his mundane (and secure) job and instead started to dedicate hundreds (if not thousands) of his awaken hours to create a great tool that thousands of PMO-struggling men worldwide would have use of (unpaid as well), isn't it worth paying that amount for the use of that tool?
    I know it might sound like a lot of money for some but if you think about it, those 30-45€ / month could easily been withdrawn from other unnecessary expenses such as junk-food, cigarettes, booze or something else that people purchase, consume and is detrimental to their health. It is a question about priorities and if you aren't ready to make that little fiscal sacrifice in order to dramatically improve your life, you are probably not serious about it and the tool might not be for you.

    The thing is that the initial income from creating that tool would later be reinvested in the business to create even greater and more affordable tools later on that can reach out to even more people and that initial income might be important for gaining that momentum.
     
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  3. I come for the reboot at first, but I am in it for the long haul.
     
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  4. CuthbertRogerson

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    I'm looking to reboot and then re-evaluate from there. I want to be rid of P for good, but I’m not sure about M. That will be something I’ll have to consider more carefully, assuming I manage the reboot.
     
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  5. Do not give up skibum71!
     
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  6. Both, for good and reboot.
     
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  7. Angus McGyver

    Angus McGyver Fapstronaut

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    May I ask if you have started to replace your bad habits and thought patterns during that longest streak?
    If you haven't, I strongly recommend doing so because if you want to acquire all the massive benefits of Nofap, it will require changing so many aspects of your current/former lifestyle. Simply, because changing these habits will raise your vibration to the next level whereas you will barely notice it if only quitting MO alone (although it raises it too of course).
    I noticed myself after I had been on hard-mode for five months that the moment I started to slack on my good habits for a single week (eating unhealthier, exercising less, not reading as much, not challenging myself) I soon started to feel bad, miserable and gloomy and the relapse was very close.
     
  8. skibum71

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    I was in a really bad place mentally last year. I'd been on antidepressants for a long time, and they treated my depression but suddenly it was like they stopped working. I made a commitment to myself I was gonna fight the depression, I declared WAR on it and started doing everything I could to defeat it, started yoga/meditation, started running, changed sleep cycle, started psychotherapy, even cold showers. And nofap. And I was put on new medication. After a few months I hardly felt any better, and I was close to giving up. Then when my meds were put up to 225mg things got better, it was like coming up from suffocating under water and breathing for the first time. Oh and if anyone wants to try and lecture me about the horrors of antdepressants, save your breath. They are insignificant to the horrors of clinical depression.
    To be honest, pmo was always a consequence of my issues - mostly lack of self esteem, particularly when it comes to women. I wasn't depressed cos I was pmo'ing, it was the other way round. This is why i was still depressed after i started nofap, because i was treating the symptoms not the cause of my problems.
    I think the benefits of nofap are absolutely relative to the size of the problem. When I read some of the stuff here, people getting drawn into really fucked up P stuff, hours and hours a day pmo'ing, losing sense of self etc..., Yes for those people nofap can and should change their lives. But very casual users like me, for whom it was never really a huge problem, don't experience any magical improvement from nofap. And that's why I feel I can dip into it every now and then just for shits and giggles, I will enjoy it, probably feel a bit meh for an hour but the consequences are really not significant.
    I suppose im like the kind of drinker who can have a few glasses of wine every now and then. Sometimes they might feel a bit groggy the morning after but i only do it 6 or 7 times a year so it really isnt a big deal.
     
  9. SuperiorMan95

    SuperiorMan95 Fapstronaut

    I think I'm here for a reboot and then after this I may masturbate once a month if that. Maybe never again. Maybe I'll just keep my sexual gratification for real encounters only. At 40 days I feel better than ever!!!
     
  10. juniormelville

    juniormelville Fapstronaut

    This is very important to me too. After bad P binges my social world was obscured by lurid sexual hallucinations. I felt like a monster pretending to be human.
     
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  11. Steven5100

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    Completely quit. I’m convinced that porn and masterbating have ruined my life. I often wish I could go back to middle school and choose to never start. I don’t believe masterbating is necessary bad, but I did it such an unhealthy amount that it’s caused problems for me in my actual life. I’ve masterbated for almost a decade and thinking back to before I started, I was the happiest kid and made everyone’s day brighter. Now I’m moody and frustrated almost all the time. If you’re on the fence, my advice is to completely toss it.
     
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  12. Infrasapiens

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    I honestly don't really care anymore.
     
  13. I cant do anything addictive in moderation. The must simple solution is the most radical one - never again.

    Its sad Im like this, but its my nature. I remember as a 7yo kid when me and my bro received chocolade, I ate it in 30 minutes and my bro ate 1 piece at time for months. Thats the proof.

    I go shopping every day and buy ONLY food for a day. If I buy more, I eat it anyway.

    Its my nature. And Ive learned to work with it this way.
     
  14. henryhill

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    I never want to P or M again. I don’t see any real benefit though I feel that P is bad but M possibly just isn’t good for me but okay for others. O is good while having sex with my wife.
     
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  15. Little Prince

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    For good. Everyone here agrees P is bad, some, including myself, think M is bad and O, well I don't see a point in avoiding it but from sex not on your own. Then again, I never had sex...
     
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