Ayurveda, ancient knowledge on what semen actually is and how it is produced from food through diges

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Deleted Account, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. According to ayurveda Food,Sleep and Brahmacharya are the three pillars of health. Don't neglect anything,if body needs. All the others like exercises etc are for maintaining the Brahmacharya and distributing the accumulated energy.


    Edit: Brahmacharya is essentially Tantra. Tantra is defined as use of sexual energy for spiritual purposes/advancement. Tantra can of many, many forms just like eastern Asian qi-qong. However, the highest form of tantra IS Brahmacharya. We learn above Brahmacharya is not about building a damn but it is very much a mental practice, more than a physical one. This is because the brain (mind) IS a part of the body. However, how can the brain be at peak performance when the blood and lymphatic system is not flowing properly. When the breath does not circulate fully and the breathing organs are not engaged fully? When the heart is stressed from mere daily activities and toxins are accumulating in the body? If you feel your lifestyle is making you stagnate, you need to exercise, improve your concentration by concentrating on reading or doing work exclusively (deep work, fantastic book, real ninja practice) or by socialising a bit more if you have the need, or meditating to improve your concentration (pre-frontal cortex). If instead you decide to sit in bed all day and/or play video games while stressing your wrists and eyes and spine (whole bone structure really) and sitting on your ass for hours a day, then you are NOT doing the Brahmacharya part. Even if you sleep and eat fantastically. If you are angry at everyone and have many boiled emotions and thought patterns inside you, then you are NOT practicing Brahmacharya. If you feel lazy and sluggish and tired all the time and do not explode out of the cycle of lack of energy despite eating well and sleeping well and absorbing the food you consume to cultivate your body, then you are NOT practicing the Brahmacharya component Because you are Not circulating the energy. Instead you are bottling it up and it is making You bottle up. That is why some unfortunate and toxic-living Fapstronaut report that nofap is making anti-sociable or tired. Ha, the energy is merely putting awareness on their stinky corpse and now they realise how much their social skills lack, as they were relying on robot social gestures and lines said automatically without mindfullness.

    People saying nofap hardmode/semen retention does not work for them. But they fail to see their mental endurance has increased. Their composure is better. They constitution has improved. Let them run for their lives from the mexican cartels. See the difference after a month of one daily fap, at the end of the month and after another month of complete celibacy. They will realise mid-run or so, that energy is coming from their bodies, from inside. They will run and slowly feel stressed out but they continue and they find new stores of energy in them. Stamina. They keep going and circulate the new tapped into stores of energy. And then they realise, this is something they did NOT have a month ago.

    I know, so far I have presented it like it is quite an easy job to circulate healtihly. All it takes is to live PROPERLY. Not video games and TV for hours and other nonsense. But in todays age MANY people fail at basic living. For such people nofap and no smoking, no fast foods, etc. may very prove to be super challenging or near impossible.
     
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  2. uoma

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    Voluntary Self-Restraint is No Surpression

    There is a Western idea that sex is a natural urge and so free expression should be given to it. And if free expression is not given to it, the sex urge will become suppressed, will become repressed. And if it is thus suppressed and repressed, it will create all sorts of abnormalities within you and you will develop neurosis and various types of complex and you will become an abnormal person. There is partial truth in it. There is truth in it to the extent that if this suppression and repression is forced upon you by circumstances beyond your control, by social environment, by other taboos and deep-seated inhibitions within you, due to your father’s advice or mother’s dominance or family and all, then it can give rise to some undesirable inner abnormality. But this situation never applies if realizing the greatness of a higher goal and realizing the necessity of this important Sadhana of self-control in order to attain that goal, you make up your mind fully, willingly and voluntarily. Then there is no question of suppression. If with a full willing heart you enter into this course of self-discipline and self-restraint, then there is no question of suppression. No one is asking you to do it. You want to do it. You are yourself desirous of it. So, done with full willingness, done with great enthusiasm, it becomes a voluntary thing. Then, psychological situations will not arise. On the contrary, every time you succeed in controlling the sense-urge, you get a sense of elation, you get a sense of achievement you get a sense of inner satisfaction that you have succeeded. So, it is something that goes on giving you endless satisfaction and a sense of triumph, a sense of overcoming. Therefore it is entirely a positive process, a very creative and positive process, not a negative and suppressive process. So, regarding Brahmacharya, if you take the right approach and attitude towards it, then it is simple. It is a question of conserving energy, of preserving energy, so that it may be utilized for higher things which you wish to attain.
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    Modern Medical opinion


    • Eminent European medical men also support the statement of the Yogins of India. Dr. Nicole says: "It is a medical and physiological fact that the best blood in the body goes to form the elements of reproduction in both the sexes. In a pure and orderly life, this matter is reabsorbed. It goes back into circulation ready to form the finest brain, nerve and muscular tissues. This vital fluid of man carried back and diffused through his system makes him manly, strong, brave and heroic. If wasted, it leaves him effeminate, weak and physically debilitated and prone to sexual irritation and disordered function, a wretched nervous system, epilepsy, and various other diseases and death. The suspension of the use of the generative organs is attended with a notable increase of bodily and mental and spiritual vigour."

      If the spermatic secretion in men is continuous, it must either be expelled or be reabsorbed. As a result of the most patient and persevering scientific investigations, it has been found that whenever the seminal secretions are conserved and thereby reabsorbed into the system, it goes towards enriching the blood and strengthening the brain. Dr. Dio Louis thinks that the conservation of this element is essential to strength of body, vigour of mind and keenness of intellect. Another writer, Dr. E.P. Miller, says: "All waste of spermatic secretions, whether voluntary or involuntary, is a direct waste of the life force. It is almost universally conceded that the choicest element of the blood enters into the composition of the spermatic secretion. If these conclusions are correct, then it follows that a chaste life is essential to man’s well-being."

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  5. Davidphd1866

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    Truly brilliant insight. Plainly and clearly stated. VERY well done and a hearty "thank you" for doing so.
     
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  6. I can find more inspiring and educating reads, regularly as I find them.

    If people want.

    Maybe, I should make a thread for that alone?
     
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  7. suntannedsailor

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    Good idea, if you are willing to do that - I am really curious especially about combination of ancient and scientific explanations in parallel. Thank you!
     
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  8. What should I name it?

    Here or off-topic section?
     
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  9. Davidphd1866

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    Please try to keep it in this forum. The "off topic" forum sometimes gives people license to go off into any weird direction.
     
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  11. Ehh, biologicaly. Yin and Yang energies have different. That refers more to fe ales loosing blood on period and males semen in weakness [the sperm makes something like 4-5% of the ejaculated content in male creatures. I think those little swimmers are cheap. It is the semen that is a truckload of resources worth. It is the combination of juices from all the organs and tissues in the body. But it can work like that. If the female cultivates she can become male-like (not male) as her period will stop. This is called alaying the red dragon I think. And the male becomes boy|child-like. This is called slayingthe white tiger I think. Altough the females are said to have an easier time reaching enlightement and such].

    Also Yin-Yang are all about balancing them. It is celibates who lack cultivation of Yin - emptiness, who fail or become angry and irritated or lustful wrecks.

    I was thinking something like the tigers lair :D. Or sitting on the tiger skin in the lotus cave. As in hinduism, more south and west from the taoists, sitting on tiger skin is representative of being celibate. What do you think?
     
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    Here I found a bit more about the Beheading the Red Dragon and Slaying White Tiger: https://m.facebook.com/xiaoyaopaischool/posts/182212928634169
    They say that celibacy is the most effective and also most challenging of the ways to health, immortality and enlightement.
     
  13. No no, it's just a tool. Celibacy alone isn't it.. :).
     
  14. Sure the page catches some idea but it is seriously hippy on some. Shen is 4th and 5h dimensional? Where are these dimension? Someone was somking hard when they wrote that..Also they cannot deacribe it experientially becaue they do not understand it. It is the luster behind ones eyes. And it is not physical.

    Jing is atoms? REALLY? internet hippies usually deacribe it as semen itself. But that is the craziest Ive heard in a long time. Both are wrong. Jing, like qi, is noatter but a denser form of energy. The martial artist first learn to feel and/or sense (like see) chi. Then they move to jing and shen. Most never make it past qi and thus have never experienced it. For them, jing and shen are mere textbook mentions...

    Like I said, celibacy giving immortality? And enlightement !! By itself is quite...lots of green weed with snoop dog on a green monday, tuesday to sunday morning.
     
  15. I've made a new threat for new quotes :). Guess I will make one explaining the energetic component/development of celibacy another time. Wish this help You.
     
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  16. Woodstew

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    I have never heard such complete HOGWASH in my life (i have both a medical and holistic) background. Given this is the type of info provided here, i must be very weary of threads followed, and strongly suggest others fact check info before 'buying in'
     
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    And


    These two videos also describe the same in interesting way! Once watch it! Once I showed this video to my friend and added him to this nofap journey and convinced him that PMO was a bad thing for his health and life ! Do check it out!
    Be sure,it helps!
     
  18. Gurucito Rimpoche

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    Ok... so the benefits only appear without any lustfull tought and after absorving all the 'gross' semen?
     
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  19. The sun is the limit

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    I experience a big difference in doing sex without or with love. One is empty you the other is charging you
     
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    Paracelsus talked alot about the generative powers of semen, he reffered to it as ens seminis (entity of semen) and would also talk about the ens virtutis needs to be extracted from the ens seminis. Virtituous is strength, or power/virtue in Latin so he was saying that all virtue and excellence is developed from the force within the semen.
     
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