Hi, I want to be a bit open in this post about my life. I have always been a person that have control in his life. School was always great, family, friends, etc. But what we don't always understand that a persons life can change a lot in a very short time. (Before you read this, I was able to stop the addiction before it went too bad for me, but remember that if you try anything - you may or may not be that lucky).- I don't know if you who are reading this is a person who have ever considerd using nootropics (legal supplements). There are many different nootropics, some can remove social anxity, some can make you more alert, some can make you happier, some can make you sleep easier etc. I just wanted to share my story. To tell others to be careful with this (or any other nootropic or drug). I have used mood boosting nootropic for a long time, and I know it should not be used to often. And I fully understood that, when my life was stable and working out to be great. But the problem is, that a persons life won't always be stable. Sometimes you can go from being the happiest person with full control in your life, to become a person who lose control and get depressed (went trough other depressing shit during that time of my life too). So every small things that suddenly broke down in my life, became a lot to handle. To be able to work with school and at work while going trough all this shit, I started to take bigger doses of mood boosting nootropics, to get trough the day. I also used it more often. That is more or less me. I don't know how far the word "addiction" goes, when it comes to nootropics, but I know I was heading the wrong way. I used mood boosting nootropics everyother week or sometimes at partys. That was when I was stable and life was great. But then I broke up with my girlfriend, and I started to use the nootropic more often then recommended and bigger doses. I am lucky that I caught up to this before I got (too) or (addicted) - I have no relaised that I have to cut down, before everything breaks lose with this nootropic. I will cut down on the doses and often I use it every week (to make sure I don't get too bad withdrawl symptoms from it). I know this may have been something I could write in my own journal about myself. But I just wanted to give people a warning when it comes to any nootropic or drug (legal or not). You may think you won't be addicted now, because your life is good and stable now. But everything can change pretty fast - and so can the use of the drugs/nootropics be too. (Suddenly the nootropic you used for fun, can be a way to escape pain, for example when going trough hearthbreak like I did). Hope this made sense to anyone! -I am good now, already started the progress to cut a lot down of my use on it, feeling better everyday. (depression after the break up is getting better too and all the other shit is worked out). Note: The nootropic I used was fully legal mood booster, so for a lot of people they may think it is not that dangerouse, but it can be. I was lucky that I was able to understand what direction I went in before it was too late.
What was the nootropic you used if you don't mind me asking? I've only used only those nootropics/adaptogens which have been used for a long time, and they often require longer period of daily use to get the benefits. I guess there might be some new design drugs which can affect immediately.
No problem, the more open I am about the better I guess It was phenibut. I will still keep using it, but I have become a lot more aware of the addiction it may cause if I don't change how I use it. I will try to keep it once a week max. (The problem with phenibut is that build a tolerance over time. So when you use it too often you will have to increase how much you take to have equal effect). I have never had any problems with it, no symptoms so far - but I guess that is because I understood where I was going before I actually got very addicted. But a lot of my point is that nootropics should not be used as an escape from for example hearthbreak (that is a part of the reason why many fap - to escape). But using nootropics/drugs/fapping - does not solve the problem. (I think it is okey to use it, but it is important to know why you use it. Is it because you want to escape pain? Then you should not use it). Just wanted to make people aware, that even tho something is actually legal it can be addictive. I was lucky I saw where I was going, and got control over it now
Totally agree! I used it for a very short periode of my life to escape the hearthbreak and my problems. I was lucky that I understood that myself, that this is not a way to solve my problems. So I wanted to share, because some people may not be as lucky as me to understand that before it is actually a huge problem you have created. But I was stupid enough to not understand the addiction before I actually started to get some problems with hearthbreak in my life. Always had a stable and good life, and suddenly things fall apart, I started to try to escape with the use of phenibut. But what I understood was that I did not solve my problems at all.
I agree with you on escapism being a bad choice to handle emotions. The problems tend to accumulate. It's weird though that phenibut would be marketed as a nootropic, since it's effect seems to be close to benzodiazepines, and it's a central nervous depressant. Seems to be the opposite of noots imo. That's at least what i found on a quick googling.
It's only Phenibut you need to take care with and there is another one starting with M (cant think of it) and the rest I believe are fine in recommended doses. By the way, Phenibut is now a schedule 4 drug in Australia on the same lines as cocaine and heroin. I read a bit of the TGA report prior to the ban and yeah they have solid grounds to ban it. They have clear evidence from hospitals and addiction potential and it being used recreationally. I have a good amount in my cupboard but I wont be using it because I don't need. Anyone wanna buy it? Nah just kidding You where using Phenibut yeah? Anything else?
Hi, yeah ti is phenibut I am/was using. I still use it, but in a lot smaller does and not often. Now I use like 50 % less each time I use it, and I only use it once a week. Will try to cut it even more down. In my opinion I think it is weird that it is on the same lines as cocaine and heroin. I feel like thats two drugs that are a step worse. But I agree that phenibut should be more controlled and less available for every person.