Being satirical has to stop in NoFap Off-topic

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by modern milarepa, Jul 5, 2021.

  1. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Not really, we are just talking too much about it. My original thread is quite short.

    All I say is that being satirical is unhealthy for your mind.

    We are just trying to beat each other arguments that is why it can look like I'm overthinking it.
    It seems we won't come to a middle ground. I just wanted to show my point of view. I think now people, if someone read it, they can make their minds who is right or who is not.
     
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  2. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I'm not trying to win an argument here, I just really still don't get your original statement. You keep saying that being satirical is unhealthy but you aren't really explaining why in any serious detail beyond just it being your perspective (which is fine, but all the same more detail would be nice.) It seems more than a little odd to me to have such a hardline perspective on people telling jokes and being silly.
     
  3. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    I have spent plenty of time here making jokes and being silly here. Fun is good even sacred.

    Satire is a form of dark humor. I've given plenty explanations already on why is unhealthy maybe read again all the posts.

    I'm going to paste this which I lready said:

    This is something sarcasm can do it clouds your real you and the light of your mind, sure sarcasm can show creativity but is tainted with irony, negative abstraction and usually some type of hidden hatred towards something.
     
  4. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    When you are being satirical you are in a altered metal state, a distorted reality.

    It's not just fun. It's dark. Maybe I don't have the same mental power as you but I see this as a very destructive mental behavior becuase of what I just mentioned.

    Just like porn sarcasm is in the field of imagination and a dark enjoyment of fantasy. Specially for a porn addict I believe sarcasm is a reinforcement of living in a sick fantasy. Maybe they are not related and I'm forcing their communion. But all you do and think has an influence in who you are.
     
  5. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    Yes, but what are you actually basing all this on beyond it just being your opinion? Again that is fine but you seem to be coming at this as though it's some sort of objective fact that being sarcastic means something beyond just being sarcastic. Why do you think this?
     
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  6. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Right now I have to talk and treat some mental patients. I'll talk to you later guys
     
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  7. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Exactly, I think this is an important issue specially in smart men. The lack of empathy towards others. Empathy It's not logical and It goes out of the realm of logical thinking.

    I want to point out something out of satire topic that empathy and understanding emotions and create emotions in others specially girls is essential in creating attraction towards women.

    Satire is a logical, creative and clever endeavor, no empathy is implied in it. And only other satirical people or the satire person itself enjoys it. It's a social disruptive behavior.
     
  8. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    This is also why we don't come to a point of mutual understanding you are approaching this in a merely rational fashion to the point of almost asking me scientific prove of all I'm saying.

    Other people emotions, understanding others, social dynamics is not merely a logical process. And when you deal with people in real life or the internet emotions still exist.

    Man, I could point out scientific studies, talk in medical terms. But I don't, simply because most people find it difficult to understand, I don't care if I sound simplistic or illiterate. I prefer being understood with easy words for example this can be an act of empathy.
     
  9. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    Maybe I'm not as smart as you seem to be implying I am, because I still dont understand you at all. What does any of this have to do with attracting women?

    You're really losing me here. Shitposting on the internet is an act that lacks empathy? Is that what you are saying?
     
  10. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Exactly you are very smart only smart men don't understand this type of thing. It's the price you pay for being smart.

    I love this guy, don't mind his name he only uses it to gather attention. Here he explains it very well if you are interested

     
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  11. gordie

    gordie Fapstronaut

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    I respect your opinion, and there is a good quote from Balthasar Gracian that the man who is caught in the role of the fool is never taken seriously and therefore loses his respect. And I think you’re rightly identifying this, and maybe me and the boys have taken it too far and so I don’t mind toning it down.

    But there’s another half, and that’s that when stuff goes haywire the fool speaks the truth and jabs at the powers that be. There was a particular chain of events that set off so many users to bundle together and schizopost. I mean, even outside of our group, the post “I am a genius” got to 3 pages in a day before being moved. Then you have moderators deleting replies to their own personal and self-made dead threads to personally steer and edit others’ conversations in the way they want, which causes more teasing and irony to mock the absurdity of the situation. That is not a conversation; it’s using a forum for self-affirmation. And they aren’t even getting it; they’re killing conversation and pushing people away from the forums.

    Your point is, honestly, well-taken. I do understand where you’re coming from, and I’d definitely consider the irony-on-irony-on-irony gets to become obnoxious and exclusionary and I’ll work on it. But this didn’t start in a vacuum.
     
  12. Austin88

    Austin88 Fapstronaut

    There's a big difference between ironic sarcasm and making jokes where everyone is laughing. People that mock others through sarcastic comments or satire tend to be trolls themselves which is antisocial behaviour.
     
  13. BugsBunny555

    BugsBunny555 Fapstronaut

    I agree 100% with this.

    This is what I was trying to get at. There needs to be a balance.

    What happened in the Remember the Fall thread after we aired our grievance and then started looney tunerp shitposting was disrespectful and I take responsibility for that, however, satire is fun. We have done a lot of fun satire in the past.

    Satire is a weapon of redress. It can be used to criticized a power structure.

    But irony to the point of creating a new reality is taking it too far. For example watch Jregs videos to know that looks like.
     
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  14. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I'll check it out when I can and get back to you.
     
  15. MLMVSS

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    This thread is satirical.
     
  16. En?gma

    En?gma Fapstronaut

    Being meme addict can make you sick! Many people react to normal world with memes in their head.
     
  17. BugsBunny555

    BugsBunny555 Fapstronaut

    Imagine calling yourself a “dank memer” unironically
     
  18. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

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    Memes are the DNA of the soul.
     
  19. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    I just want to keep having fun, the schizoposting will eventually make us get banned to all of us and it gets just too toxic after a while. Just chill a bit. You know I like to have my fun with you guys otherwise I wouldn't bother in making these thread and all these replies.
     
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  20. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    Very interesting video, I never thought of it that way. I'm not really a relationship-motivated kinda guy honestly.

    You're satirical, OP is satirical, I'M SATIRICAL. Are there any other satirists I should know about?

    Well said. Being completely serious for a moment, I shitpost on here as a way of reacting to how poor the forums, especially off-topic, have become in the last year or so. Newer users don't realise how much you used to be able to get away with even back in 2019, and how much more stifling it has become. I've had 15 page arguments with people accusing me and Fellatious of committing identity fraud because (at the time) our profile pics were of real people. I've had arguments with others about prostitution and the ethics of it that went on for so long I literally forgot what the argument was even about. Nowadays both those threads would be shuttered by the second page of replies.
     
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