Being unemployed sucks but working a 9 to 5 also sucks ass

Guys... really?

I've been jumping from work to work and after some time I stabilised my situation. During that time I got a degree, married the woman I loved and got rid of my addiction. And in a month's time I'm thinking about changing my job again ('cause the money suck!). Am I someone extraordinary? Heck no! I'm a regular guy like you, but I don't whine and don't think of myself as some slave.

You don't want to have children, because you don't want them to be in the same situation? Are you seriously thinking that? It's not like they're going to have a terrible life! There's no telling what will happen.

Guys, don't be lazy about work. Listen to stories about people who used to "suck" and now are extremely experienced and, sometimes, even rich. Life isn't a fairy tale, but don't turn it into sad tearjerkers. Man up!

 

You have the chance to change the work as you wish. In many countries this isn't possible, and if you have one, it's a necessity to hold it tight, even if it's a bad work, especially in these days. Other does not even have the chance to get a work, and have to leave their country to get it.
In some places they treat you like a slave, even if you belive to be in democracy, other does not even pay you because you are forced to do a work ''under the table''. Isn't all flowers, happines, ecc..I mean, and I'm from a country that consider itself ''rich'' and made a boast with that narrative. In my region almost every young lefted this and moved in a better and rich region, even if it cost you to switch your language, your culture, your roots and your family. I'm in a rich country and I have to reinvent myself if I want to survive in this chaos, and the future does not seem as good as many advertise (but neither is that dark as other advertise).
And, is necessary to stay aware for unemployed people, because it could bring to stagnation: Tv, videogames, porn, ecc...instead of doing something productive, you risk to make yourself like a larvae. Not easy for many to be consistent when they don't have a work, it could also bring to depression.

 

That's... actually in line with my words, but more developed (apart from the part about changing the job as I wish). Thank you.

Yes, gaining a new perspective is good! And if you have a chance to get a job, take it. Maybe you'll spend a year or a few more in it, and maybe you'll begin to hate it, but you'll gain experience and money to go on. Be hopeful!

 

We are the same age and I can relate to you. That 9 to 5 grind, working for someone else's dream. No friends. It was a real low and impossible to recover from an addiction. But man, there is a way out. We all have opportunities in life no matter how much money you have or don't have. I think this is your wake up call. My advise, go out there and do something, even if it's not bringing you money. Go offer to walk someones dogs, go help someone in their small business, go volunteer at an event somewhere. Basically just put yourself out there. When you find the courage to do it, naturally you start to change because now you suddenly have to be more presentable to the world and face up to it, be responsible, on time and help others.

I know this is easier said than done, but for me, it's a hell of a lot easier to jump in and face the world than to be a bum. We are human beings with the power to create so much. It just takes a little push and some energy. My favourite lyric from Avicii "We've been laced with the power of creation, so when the sun sets you bet you must face them"

Good luck dude

 

Okay, then, I'm talking to you now. Because I surely CAN talk like that after going through hell of addiction, all the hardships and family issues. We're not some special cases in this world, but each of us can choose. Life sucks, I know it well, but you know what you have to do? Go on. Not give up. You're stronger than you think. Man up!

 

How I relate to this. The feeling-like-a-slave part. I haven't worked a whole lot and haven't worked for long periods ever. I'm in my late 20s. Whenever I've worked I fell this hole, the pointlessness, the void and I just couldn't take it past a certain point. But recently after spending a few years quite depressed and confused I just accepted that in the end I will suffer anyway. There is no point for me to wish things were different in this world today, because things aren't going to change and I'm not going to go live alone in the Alaskan Wilderness. So in the end two outcomes materialized in my mind: first option is to remain unemployed and live very frugally, which, if we fast-forward a little leads me to being a 50yo lonely and sad man living in a one-room apartment with maybe a cat. Option two is to embrace the pain of the 9 to 5 and find meaning elsewhere, so that I can have a fulfilling life, people alonside me, hopefully a wife, a family, more things to look forward to and appreciate. I can always enjoy my time off and have hobbies and things I'm interested in and not let my job just suck up my whole life. So yeah, it's either the pain of the job or the pain that comes with the consequences of not making an income. Drop the political stuff and wishful thinking, just be very rational and analyze what your actual options are and where they'll take you, because that's all we got man.

This sounds very straightforward and obvious but until recently I never took the time to really visualize where my choices would lead me, I didn't realize there was nothing coming to save me, some magic solution or opportunity that would materialize eventually. If I don't act I'll just be sitting in the pot like a frog until it's too late and I regret everything.

I think also from what you mentioned that you could improve your life a lot and make it a lot more interesting, so it's not all black. First maybe not working 50 hours and hopefully finding a better company with better people if that's possible. Then having hobbies or sports clubs to join in so that you would not spend your time alone at home, you'd have something you like doing to look forward to and people to socialize with, making friends or spending more time with the ones you have? Maybe also looking for a partner? Just a few ideas that came to mind. Take care.

 

I get the mccandless feeling too bro, I dreamed about it for years (especially the part where he travel arround the US, not the Alaska part I mean) I try to rebalance it with long trips with my bike. Try to work to get a decent bike and start!

The proble for me with works is that we are just bugs, Be a worker and build feel so useless..since there is no need of building and destroy nature, working in a office is boring and is better suicide.
Isn’t easy to work if realize you’re just a slave and you are not building because it is a necessity for the community but because some people are speculate with their business. Building is useless, we aren’t at war, there is no stimulus to build like a war destroyed everything, no one really needs it since there is plenty empty buildings and none wants to live in it.

Same thing for people, everyone is depressed and unhappy because this society kinda sucks, everyoje taking drugs like alcol, smoke, ecc.. and as we do with porn to suppress our consciousness and miss that we live in a shitty As I said the only good thing seem to leave for a trip and make some experiences, open your mind to other cultures...ecc...

 

Yeah well I agree but it's exactly what I advised him not to do. You see all this may be right but it's not gonna help at all. All it will do is destroy you, and on top of that you can't make much of a difference in the world if you're destroyed. I think I'd rather turn my attention towards what I can do ofr myself and others, work and have a life I can cherish, I can also still in many ways live differently than most people, not do the things I condemn, etc. Whatever this means for you, maybe consuming less, trying to have your own vegetable garden, not hurting, preying on and using other people like companies do and most of us, etc. All that being said if what you're doing is satisfactory for you by all means keep doing it, travelling is a great experience, but it just isn't for me anymore at this point.

 

I think there is a lot of truth to your post…

Something I often think about: if all the people would stop consuming stuff, and buying all this stuff for holidays, birthdays, entertainment, etc. …. Then a majority of these businesses would go bankrupt… and then everyone would be out of a job, and then we could all only work for the most important jobs (like grocery store, medical, etc.) - and there’d be so much excess workers, we could all work like 4 hour days

But the majority of society is too ignorant to ever achieve this ideal living scenario.

I’d advise you to quit smoking weed… when I used to smoke weed, I would quit jobs just like you. Now that I quit smoking weed about 6 years ago, I am overall more stable. I think weed is really bad for working a full time job

Maybe try and find a job that you work only 40-45 hours a week. Then in your spare time, go to the gym, and then make approaches to find a girl to live with you who also works a job, this would decrease the rent cost

 

I know how nightmarish life can be, but don't know exactly how everyone feels. So, you're right. I wish you get out of the nightmare.

 

Drive or deliver for Uber, DD. Better that than eviction...

 

The best thing is to stop using porn.
If you feel like a slave you have act like a slave.

Porn is the best way to make you feel enslaved (because you are).

And being rich should not take away your feelings of unluckiness.

 

No one here is a slave for work, you are not being forced to work. You can stop working and live on the streets as a free man, however, it would suck to be homeless and living on the streets.
Dig deep and work for one of these or a combination of these reasons: money, fulfillment, or earning a living pursuing your passion. Most of us work for money and find fulfillment and passions outside of work because it's hard to find work that does those things, but your life will be better if you are fulfilled and have a passion for something. Regardless of what you do some $ in your pocket is always a good thing, it's up to you to figure out how to earn it.
I was a slave to porn, nobody was forcing me to watch it, but the addiction made it almost impossible to not watch it. That's my version of slavery, and I'm here to become a free man.