Caffeine and No PMO

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  1. Plusjamais

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    Hi,
    Does anyone know any study on caffeine and its effects on body and mind? All you can find is biased websites praising coffee like it's only benefits. But though it puts me in a good mood and I'm more effective, it can create urges, especially before sleep because of the energy. And I'm a better fighter, more aware, against PMO addiction without caffeine.
    I'm also interested in insights and experiences feel free to share. Thank you!
     
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  3. Daryn

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    decreases urges & gives that extra dopamine for motivation in my experience
     
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  4. Plusjamais

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    Decreases urges? Pretty shocking I mean even when going to bed? Cause I share that urges do decrease but just for the day, and at night there's a chance I'm all excited in bed because of it and it's 3 times harder to push the urge.
     
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  5. Anonymous86

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    Caffeine gives dopamine??
     
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  6. DaleEarnhartJr

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    Maybe hold off on the coffee before going to bed? That might be a good idea regardless on quitting PMO or not.
     
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  7. Plusjamais

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    Oh but I always only take one coffee in the morning.
     
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  8. Pizzer

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    Recently I've discovered that caffeine makes me overly angry on top of having all this extra testosterone, I get short tempered, so I've kicked that too.

    It's a drug like any other, not created by the body, it's not required, your body can give you what you need, you just need to treat it right.
     
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  9. Plusjamais

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    I like to think that way too but I know that my body and mind are not at 100% without caffeine... Unless I have to sober up from it for weeks before I wouldn't need it?
     
  10. Caffeine messes with me makes me anxious and wanting more dopamine. I stay away
     
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  11. Pizzer

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    I tend to recover in about a week, or so.
     
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  12. Plusjamais

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    I'll definitely try. Any tips on how to keep a decent level of energy and focus? I can't wake up in less than 3 hours and can't focus until night without coffee.
     
  13. Pizzer

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    Unfortunately, you're just gonna have to suffer with it for a few days, it'll pass, and drink plenty of water, it'll flush your system a bit quicker.

    Trust me I know it sucks, I've kicked caffeine so many times it's not even funny, you'll get some headaches (pretty much 100% guaranteed), so if you're not one of those people opposed to taking painkillers, keep some nearby, ibuprofen and paracetamol/Tylenol combo works great for me.
     
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    I'm a total coffee\caffeine addict. It's pretty much why I get out of bed in the morning, especially in this time of covid restrictions. I use it currently as my reward for getting and keeping pmo in check (only a couple of relapses in the last 2 years and what feels like real progress now towards a life free from pmo) So the next challenge I am planning is no caffeine. I have 1\4 of a jar remaining and will not replace once I've finished it. I'm more scared of giving this up, my one pleasure left in life than I was of quitting pmo! Lol Is there a nocaf movement I can join where I can set a counter and share experiences. My life is fine, reasonably functioning, inasmuch as it does consist of a bit of loneliness, depression, low mood, anxiety, hyper sensitivity and ability to addiction. I seem to have been set up with a disposition towards these, but I'm a bit on the older side and have spent more than a few years actively seeking self improvement, starting with the basics, diet, sleep, exercise, as well as improved general life style choices (using Buddhist 8 fold path and some stoic principles as a bit of a guide). I'm hoping that with a bit of determined effort and not too much discomfort I can get caffeine free and see if it brings a bit more clarity and equanimity in to my life, we'll see!
     
  15. DaleEarnhartJr

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    must have misread your original post. Are you saying you drink coffee in the morning but it lasts Til before you go to bed?
     
  16. Plusjamais

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    Exactly. I mean, the immediate effects of caffeine, the increased heartbeat and the excitement only last for a couple hours and I'd have leftovers at night. It is like my brain knows I'm going to bed, crates an excitement, an urge, enhanced by the morning coffee. They say coffee is fully absorbed and removed within two days.
     
  17. Plusjamais

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    Oh I’ve spent most of my life without caffeine and I know the headaches. The most difficult thing for me is the impossibility to focus and the unbelievable fatigue throughout the day
     
  18. Pizzer

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    Trust me, you'll soon find a new source of energy through doing this.

    I reached a point where coffee did nothing for me anymore, constantly napping and tired, wasn't even doing anything strenuous. Since doing nofap though, energy levels have improved a fair bit, and once I get back into keto and fasting, I'm sure energy will be through the roof.
     
  19. Usually they say the effects of coffee last for about 6 hours in the average adult. Hence the common guideline not to drink coffee after 2pm, to ensure sleepiness around your usual bedtime. From what you're describing I get the sense that you might either be a) unusually caffeine sensitive, b) making your cup of coffee too strong / using a very strong or cheap bad quality roast, c) a teenager, or d) making a wrong assessment of the reasons for your late night energy surges.
    The caffeine in coffee is absorbed very quickly via the circulatory system, hence the immediate results of an increased heartbeat and excitement. It's almost impossible to still have an energy boost at night from a cup of coffee 12+ hours earlier. Caffeine only has a half-life of 3-5 hours; that's how long your body needs to break down half of it. Even if you feel the effects longer than that they should definitely be gone after the 10 hour mark.
    You might wanna try what's called a "half-caff" and see how that works for you. It's coffee that is half caffeinated and half decaf. Or try black tea, green tea and/or matcha tea. The caffeine in tea is distributed through the nervous system and has much less of a punch or spike to it while at the same time keeping you sharp throughout the day.

    Also...in an earlier post you mentioned you could only find pros for coffee online...which surprises me. Science has been going back and forth on that matter and if you just google the two words "coffee bad" you find a lot of articles that do mention some things to consider, including risks and disadvantages of coffee.
     
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  20. SaturnDaytona456

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    I've given up a lot of drugs and habits in my life, and let me tell you... Coffee is perhaps the stupidest drug. It spikes dopamine and cortisol (stress hormone) for a brief stressful high followed by a crash and looming anxiety that most coffee drinkers just get used to. After a week without coffee I didn't miss it at all, I was waking up like a kid on Saturday morning and I had maybe 40% less general anxiety and frustration in my afternoon and evening routine. The beverage industry preys on people's routines and identities. I have worked in the beverage industry for six years and it's eerily similar to the porn industry. It's predatory. They aim only to create long term habit driven customers. They want you thinking it's normal, but it's a subscription and a scam. To make matters worse, coffee drinkers have a tendency to sit there for an hour every morning "waking up" then they go around boasting their coffee preferences like it's some sort of identity. I used to be guilty of the same stupid shit. I drank "Tanzanian Peaberry"... I was a schmuck. Fight to recognize when industry is preying on you, then run like hell. There is a lot of money to be made selling the masses a beverage they "need to drink" every single day. Don't even get me started on the other beverages. It's all so fucked. They're just marketing habit after habit.
     
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