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can i see girls wearing bikini or bath cloth

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Hurted, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. Hurted

    Hurted Fapstronaut

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    i mean, that isnt porno.... i feel i will get crazy if i cant see a girl , 2 months ago , i feel bad about porn and i left that, but know i feel better and... i have that question...
     
  2. GripLess

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    I believe thats what is referred to as "p-sub", porn substitute. It will not help your cause and will likely lead you back to porn. I would suggest going to a park, mall or something like that and people watch. Get your brain used to seeing women as they are un everyday life.
     
  3. Jesb

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    Do without subs. Instagram, dating sites, ect.
     
  4. From my personal experience, no, you cannot do that because it will create the same chemical brain response, which will be directed toward fantasy women, which is the opposite of what you want.
    I totally support the idea of getting used to seeing and experiencing women as the are in social situations like ones you might actually have.
    What you want is connection. That will get you much healthier. Check out this video.
     
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  5. Mistakesweremade

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    Sorry to break it to you but the moment you start thinking like that it usually means your doomed for failure. All you were doing was holding off how many days you can go without pmo but your heart wasn't truly ready to accept the change that is why your getting these urges & coming up with excuses/or loopholes in your head that would lead you right back to pmo.
     
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  6. You will fantasy and dopamine will flood your mind like you watching porn. Dont do it .
     
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  7. FEEL

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    Personally, for me, I wouldn't mind viewing some pictures of girls in bikini (underwear, bra, and all those stuff)
    as long as it doesn't trigger you to search for nudes and porn or to touch yourself (that's what I do whenever I'm bored)
    but you're taking a big risk by doing that so it's up to you.
    It depends on how strong addicted you were to PMO.
    I'm on day 31 and I have never fantasized because of it
     
  8. PMO addiction is PMO addiction. If you start searching to view girls with bikini this means your brain make games to take dopamine. This is important stop it. If you don't stop one two three relapse will be sure.
     
  9. FEEL

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    Nah, a single picture of a girl who wears a bikini has nothing to do with porn.
    Yes, it might trigger you to search for porn and to masturbate (and that's why I said that it is a risky thing to do)
    but it's not porn.
    That's why I'm against people who delete their Facebook & Instagram accounts and block sites like Youtube.
    Of course, I'm not judging anyone here, you can do whatever you think is right for you
    but you should also understand that you CAN'T hide from p-subs forever, it's freaking everywhere!
    (unless if you're living in North Korea).
    Instead of trying to find ways how to escape from it - learn to live with it.
    The harder you try to escape from it, the harder it gets.
    That's just my point of view.
    Good luck anyway

    P.S -
    I'm sorry if I sound cocky to any of you, I'm just trying to deliver a message here.
    I wouldn't make it to day 31 without realizing that.
     
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  10. Blade-rnr

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    What you are feeling/desiring are normal cravings. The fact that you are asking if you are allowed to see it tells me this. I've been there. For me it was Netflix series shows that had sex. "It's not porn" is what I would tell myself... right before I would start skipping forward to the sex scenes and masturbating. I would look for more explicit shows until eventually ending up on hardcore porn because that's how the addiction works.

    You ever notice how you always seem to want more and more but are never satisfied with what you are currently viewing? That's the nature of this particular addiction because it plays off of the natural instinct men have to mate with as many women as possible. That desire needs to be redirected to respond to REAL girls... not virtual ones.

    If dating is a possibility, putting your attention into someone you are attracted to could help with that rewiring process. Just watch out for the Chaser effect... it is real.
     
  11. My last bout with PMing was looking at pictures of girls with ponytails. I can tell you it was exactly the same thing for me as looking at nude women. It is a trap to do it, and will certainly not help you in you objective to have a healthy brain, social life, emotional life, and be free.
     

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