Can I still masturbate if I want to give up porn? Masturbation triggering desire for porn.

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by asdaprice5, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. asdaprice5

    asdaprice5 New Fapstronaut

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    I'm trying to give up porn (for the 60th or so time, smh) because I can no longer masturbate without it and real sex can be hit and miss/isn't enjoyable because it doesn't turn me on... It's day 7 now of no PMO and I'm sure I could orgasm without porn because I'm so turned on all the time! I suspect that if I do I'll really want to masturbate again and this will lead to looking at porn because the 2nd time round I'll need the porn to get aroused... Of course there's a voice in my head saying "Just do it- you can handle it, you deserve this..." Can someone confirm that the only way to get over my porn addiction and PIED is to quit PMO (for 90 days?). Also I'm going back to University in a week where I tend to have sex a fair bit (despite the fact that I rarely orgasm I still enjoy the intimacy you know). If I really want to beat (no pun intended) this thing do I have to quit porn, masturbation and sex??
     
  2. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    P leads to M. M leads to P. (I may be simplifying somewhat, but not by much.) It's called a vicious circle.

    I'm not saying the only way to beat PIED is the monk mode, but it may be the fastest and surest. Myself, I've quit P completely, cut down on M by about 99%, but if anything I want to have more actual sex, hence as long as I get them my O's as a result of sex with my wife, the more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned!

    That's what fits my circumstances, and I don't mind (too much) if it means my recovery takes a bit longer.

    You will have to figure out what works for you, and what you need to do to get healthy. Unless proven otherwise, I think you should assume that cutting out everything is a safer bet than dabbling in some of it.

    As to whether it takes 90 days or some other time span, who knows? It's a largely arbitrary number, I don't think it's grounded in vast amount of empirical research. I'm going for 100 days myself, and I'm now almost half way into it, and all I can say is I've made progress, but I'm not there yet. So it could well turn out that somewhere around the 90-day-mark I was back to normal. Or not. It doesn't really matter, though, because as far as P is concerned, I'm done with it.
     

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