Can Pied be cured by just quitting M and P

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by ConMan, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. Coffee69

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    I cannot really tell exactly on how many days that I felt 90% cured. It is kind of on and off condition.

    I started having s*x again with my wife on days 60 I think and it felt good. I can tell that I got a good boner even though it not 100% rock solid but enough to have s*x. I can last a little bit longer and ejaculate. It is a big accomplish for at that stage.

    Before this I can only have a boner for 5 minutes than my di*k will goes soft. No penetration at all. You can imagine my situation.

    Then at days 140 I think, my ED came back. I was a little bit afraid and confused why it happened again. But I still continue my PMO journey.

    Then I realize something for my condition. During s*x, if you start to focus and worried about your performance.. if you were too busy thinking whether you can satisfied your wife or you are too focus on yourself and not your partner/wife, then you will have a problem getting your di*ck hard.

    Try to have fun. Really enjoyed the experience with your wife. Have fun. Relax and have a foreplay.

    But of course this can only be achieved if you have done the nofap first. All the reboot and rewiring of your brain must be done first.

    Well, on the last couple of days, I can now managed to have s*x for 2 times, I mean after ejaculate for the first time then after 45 minutes I can have a second round.

    This has never happened to me before. I never expect that I can achived this before. For someone who had ED and PE and a really bad one. Although on PE I still have a long way to go. Now I can stand around 10 - 15 minutes of intercourse before ejaculated.

    Hope we can realize how bad your brain has been affected by porn.

    I still continue my PMO journey. Untill today no relapse. Avoid porn and masturbation. For me this is my recovery plan. For someone who had PMO for 20years. (18 - 38 years old ) and only had real sex at age 33. I mean realized I had ED and PE at 33.
    Thank you Nofap and YBOP.
     
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  2. Goingtodothis21

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    What happened to you sounds very similar to what happened to me man and it really scares the shit out of me. I think I’ve suffered for so long from ED because of porn that it’ll take me years to get back to normal, if ever! About 3years ago I kicked porn on the head and got a girlfriend but if I’m brutally honest with myself I know it wasn’t 100% when having sex with her, more like around 70. Definitely to the point where we had to talk about it. I’m new to the site anyway and already I think it’s making a massive difference...
     
  3. Goingtodothis21

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    That is inspiring for a guy like me who’s suffered from PIED for about 10 years and I know that even though I’ve given PM up before that I’ve never had sex as good as when I was around 20-21...that’s a scary thought especially when you’re in your mid 30s. But I’m definitely never going back to porn again. I’ve wasted too much time fucking up my brain to the point where all I can feel before sex is anxiety and worry rather than what it should be..joy and excitement
     
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  4. nofepfepforlife

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    Yeah we're in a similar situation. I think for guys like us we seem healed after aprox. 6 months (give or take) but after sex/orgasm dozens of times we fall back into PIED. I believe for guys like you and I we need to reboot for at least a solid 12 months, absolutely no P, M or even O...that means no sex :( Imo that ought to give us a reboot that will have permanent or at least very long lasting effects. The single most important thing we can do though is NEVER go back to P. Going back to P at any level will completely throw us backwards. I learned the hard way now I'm rebooting all over again.
     
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  5. Goingtodothis21

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    Absolutely man, it's very naive to think you can go back to P now and again after a successful reboot. It's definitely NOT happening this time!
     
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    Yep, sadly I had to learn the hard way.

    Yeah hardmode is the only way to go.
     
  8. overclocked

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    I say yes but if you want to do it the most effective way (I'm not saying the fastest way because that would make you impatient) is to go hard mode until you feel there is no improvement to be made. Then start going out again. Again, you will improve from your experiences up to a certain point. If that plateau is reached, try hard mode again.

    Hard mode, rewiring, hard mode, rewiring... this is how I made progress.
     
  9. Coffee69

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    I am not sure about hardmode for more than 6 months.. in my case, as i am married i need to have sex with my wife.
    This could also be a factor to expedite the healing or rewiring process to our brain as we interact with a real person.

    The most important things is we cannot turn to P and MO because of P. This is a big NO. Because we are addicted to P in the first place.. never ever find P again.
     
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  10. nofepfepforlife

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    If I were you I'd go 6 months no porn, no M and no O and then slowly return to O with your wife. No M for at least a good solid year. I worry you could end up like me in a situation where you seem fully healed then have sex a dozen times then suddenly your ED returns because the orgasmic load (lol) caused your dopamine to down-regulate.
     
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  11. I know it is implied and obvious, but I want to add anyway, no porn means not looking at it at all, no matter what you are doing or not doing with your dick. Otherwise your brain will not heal.

    The other thing mentioned in this thread I want to echo, I have experienced a "rebound effect" (not sure I am using the correct term) from having O with my wife. It led to a massive relapse.

    Lastly, I certainly cannot speak from experience of a long time streak, but I will say that I have talked myself into an M session without P in the past, and it also led to looking at P again very quickly. This happened arter a relatively short period of abstinence.
     
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  12. nofepfepforlife

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    I concur with this tbh.
     
  13. I love porn 69 69

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    Guys I am currently masturbating 3 times a week mostly at night and for a few hours at a time I find it amazing and don’t know how to stop because honestly I love porn and I love to masturbate it makes my problems go away and tbh this is a joke to me porn addiction isn’t serious your not addicted to heroin or crack that you actually need help it’s porn just don’t watch it it’s simple as that so yea if you haven’t noticed I may have a problem to most of you but to me I don’t if you want to reach out I’ll wntertain it
     
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