Can PM mode cure pied?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Bigdog1776, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Bigdog1776

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    Have u spent a lot of time rewiring with ur gf??
     
  2. Alex__13

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    In my opinion, it does not help, the only thing that helps is to stay away from all that means sex. Your brain has been bombarded for years with this so we don't have any reactions. Erection with manual stimulation is a spontaneous reaction and comes from the spinal cord not from the brain.This is how I get erections but I need ed meds to be as stable.
    But this erection if not supported by the brain is very weak and does not last long. And the orgasm is an explosion of dopamine exactly what we lack this destroying the seed of recovery.
    And who knows what happens ... what can explain the lack of spontaneous and morning erections ... and dead dick syndrome that I often feel.
    It takes a long time ... months or even years of total abstinence to make sex again exciting for our brain.
     
  3. Bigdog1776

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    Yikes I’m scared of this whole process now. This dead dick phase I’ve been feeling for months has made me very depressed
     
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    I feel it for years .... only after 2 months hard mode I felt it again as before ... just got a few sex parties and flatline again ... that's why I recommend hard mode, or you can try like me sex once a week, very important !!! one single orgasm, can and will help.
     
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  5. thikk

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    Just forget about the dick and focus on being a whole person after the reboot. Getting worried about short term things like that seems like the brain fighting for a relapse. As regards the overall thread question... Just go hard mode for 3 months. All these complications or compromises people make just slow things down or worse still cause relapse. I understand people who have to O due to their partner but I think this should be with the partner's knowledge (and definitely not if you're hiding pills for sex). And in that case supportive women would just help you go no PMO for 3 months with trial sex a few times esp after day 30. Thing is our brains are messed up to the point that some neural links need to be broken. So if you choose to do no PM and allow O. The link between PMO has not been broken yet, so your brain is still keeping the PMO connection in tact even though you're just providing O. This will make healing take longer and increase chances of relapse. If you go hardmode everything resets. And that's why we need to rewire after a while. So basically, hardmodd for 90 days is usually the answer to everything.


     
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    Thank you for your response. I’ve already gone PM mode for 7 months and have had two long streaks of hardmode at 50 and 70 days each. I guess I’m just in for the long haul to cure pied which kinda sucks
     
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  7. thikk

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    Well, the other thing is that you really shouldn't really be going through many relapses if you're serious about change. Often than not relapse just me as that we have not fully committed to change. If you think about, the rate of successful pmo is not that high. But once people start getting diseases, black balls, vein issues, extreme pied even to porn, marriages collapsing, losing jobs etc... Then all of a sudden they are able to commit to nofap and change. They just needed a reason to commit to change. And there's no need to wait that long becuase it may be too late to change things. If you're serious you'd get help the moment you feel like your own will is not strong enough. Get partners, friends or professionals involved. Take a jog in the middle of the night if you have to. If you're not committed though, you always find a way back.


     
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    I mean I’ve been very committed and haven’t relapsed once. Just orgasms from my gf but it feels like I’ve been in a flatline for months
     
  9. thikk

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    I think you have all the answers. Someone just posted that they allowed O and it took long to heal. They concluded that only no pmo helps. We all know this, so if that's your choice be ready for delayed healing and higher chances of relapse. Also, I hope you're not using pills secretly or something to achieve these orgasms. The brain needs to break links between pmo. If you give the brain any of these elements prior to full recovery: then the links between pmo have not been broken so you're technically still feeding the pmo network. That's why it takes longer to heal. So be true to yourself. The truth is the answer to everything is always no pmo.


     
  10. Bigdog1776

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    Well how long should I expect recovery to be on PM mode? I was almost cured at day 70 hardmode and then one orgasm sent me back into a flatline
     
  11. thikk

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    No one will give you that kind of answer for pm mode. Even if they did, your pm mode could vary considerably from their's in quality and aims and the response would likely be inaccurate. Secondly, I'm not sure why you are against pmo. If you do it with your partner you only need to do 30 days then you can start trial sex every now and then till you recover. However, you have the figures from your current trys on pm mode. Use those as estimates if you plan to continue the journey and all the best.

     
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    Thanks for your help. I have done hardmode in the past and in my last streak I went 70 days no pmo and felt almost cured but then after reviving oral sex it sent me back into the flatline which is confusing.
     
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    That makes sense too, and I'm not sure why you concluded that that means hard mode did not work or whatever (you should have just continued the journey). It usually happens between day 40 ish to full recovery depending on how bad the addiction was. Several people report going back to flatline after sex, a bj etc. Normal or organic sexual activity. The main thing here is that after 40 or so days we need to start rewiring by slowly getting back into real sex and relationships. You don't hit 70 or 90 days and voila! The world is yours! (This counting days mentality is what makes people relapse even after successfully recovering - the journey does not end. Nofap is a change of mindset towards porn, not a simple 90 count. And until you decide that you'll find a way to relapse.) Many people report having to slowly go back to sex with their partners which helps the brain to rewire to normal sex. And this is usually necessary in most cases. It doesn't mean hard mode does not work, it means you messed it up in those cases. Your brain played tricks and you fell. As a final statement, just know that the answer is full pmo for 90 days. And however difficult this is its the easiest way to do it: it's even easier if your partner knows so this makes me think you're hiding it. And if you're using pills secrerlty too then definitely consider waiting 1+ years and have to deal with anxiety of getting off pills. Plus also, your chances of relapse are high as long as your brain isn't fully healing. So be true to yourself. Don't wait till you have diseases (black balls, vein issues), pied even with porn, losing your marriage work etc. Those will definitely give you the motivation to decide to quit the clean way. But would it be worthy to lose everything?


     
  14. Bigdog1776

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    Bruh what? “My brain played tricks and I fell?” Nah I was hooking up with my gf and she wanted to give me head? How am I supposed to say no to that when I’m fully hard
     
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