can single people practice microcosmic orbit??

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  1. Sakhi

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    I see on a website that suggest doing microscopic orbit by manthak Chia. There they said about sex transmutation and cultivating sexual energy.. my question is this that Im single and 23 years old who is still virgin and recently really excessivly masturbated. Right now I have hair fall and weak body... if I practice microscopic orbit, will it be useful for me???
     
  2. Solidium

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    Stop abusing your body with endless masturbate will help you faster. Visit yourbrainonporn.com if you need further information.
    p/s: I do know something about microscopic orbit, it's damn hard as I've never really finished one, and I don't know if they're real or not, it's just some feeling.
     
  3. Sakhi

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    You mean I should stop masturbation?
    But as you see microcosmic orbit is taoist method that is very trust medicine and Also its not harmful to be practiced. Nothing wrong will happen
     
  4. Headspace

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    I read the book "Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" by Mantak Chia and the microcosmic orbit meditation, which starts from your head and ends in your head made me feel increasingly weird. I read somewhere that you need to bring the energy down to your stomach in the end, but this isn't said anywhere in this book. I've had enough of it anyway. If you want to do it nonetheless: Chia says that you should not have ejaculated for 30 days before starting it.
     
  5. Sakhi

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    So I think all we can do is stoping masturbation. That is all yeah??
     
  6. Solidium

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    I haven't read the book yet, but in taoist theory: masturbate is a "waste of energy" which produce no new life.
    And don't underestimate it. As taoist may seem healthy, some mistake will lead to devastating destruction to your nervous system. You're not going to death, but headache, strange noise, trauma, disorder etc... is likely to show up if you done it wrong. So you should find a taoist master to teach you first.
    Just remember that event the taoist master may not be the real one, there's no way to make sure if they are or not.
     
  7. Solidium

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    For a second, I think you're upset cause you're about to find a way to cure and still keep masturbating at the same time, yet people keep telling you to stop M. Am I correct ?
     
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  8. Sakhi

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    Actually I have realized that masturbation is really harmful about 90 percent Im sure. The chinese say masturbation is harmful.. but the US and European say it is not harmful. . That make me confused
     
  9. Solidium

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    And somehow you change your avatar to an European scholar after that ? Quite an accident, mmm...
    The reason why you are so confuse is because your mind know that's bad but your little devil still told you to find a "good reason" to fap again.
    And the answer is: Fap is not bad, get addict to it is bad.
     
  10. Sakhi

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    Man its been a long time I quited masturbation addiction and its not up to you to identify me how my mind is.. my confusion is because what the goverments and and countries do to there people. When we dont fap we also dont watch porn.. as im thinking the reason why fapping is seen as a normal thing there is because doctors and phesicians are paid by porn industries to be silent... I tell you fapping is 100 percent harmful that kills you slowly
     
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  12. Headspace

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    It is all I will do for now. This doesn't mean it could not be different for you. The book is about actively using your sexual energy to transform yourself, which involves having an orgasm without ejaculation. I know that it is possible; a woman once told me that her husband is able to control it, and she wasn't into esoteric stuff at all. Chia claims to have lived without ejaculation for about 10 years. He only did it twice: to make a child with his wife and, before that, to get rid of the old semen and create fresh one for this purpose.

    It's not only about masturbation, but about all ejaculation.
     
  13. Solidium

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    Sorry for what I said.
    Here's my oppinion: Fapping consume a lot of energy and extremely addictive. So the best choice is don't do it.
    p/s: there's really some rumor about guy dying from M :/
     
  14. It's not some conspiracy by doctors and physicians. The porn industry doesn't pay them to keep quiet. It's just internet porn is a very new thing still, and we haven't got to the point where the dangers are widely known about. Only 20 years ago, a lot of the people who didn't watch online porn themselves, didn't even know such a thing existed. Now it's a normal thing that almost everyone watches at some point in their lives.

    Hmm, now what could this be similar to..

    Oh right. Cigarettes.

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    Those are 1950's ads for cigarettes, and they're two of hundreds of ads they ran, where they said smoking was healthy, and had doctors even recommending it. It was only later on that people started to really realise how damaging smoking was.

    We're in our own 1950's, but with regards to porn and such. People are still touting the purported benefits, because we simply haven't yet got to the stage where the negatives are widely accepted. The research is gradually getting out there, but it could be another 10-20 years before the general public admits it's bad.

    Also I'm not sure 100% what this thread is getting at, but if you're asking if masturbating without ejaculation works just the same as sex without ejaculation, absolutely NOT. Masturbation without ejaculation is called edging, and is more harmful than regular masturbation for various reasons. Sex without ejaculation is a whole other deal, and something that you may want to explore when you get a partner.
     
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    Just making clear again that the technique we're speaking of is about having a special kind of orgasm without ejaculation. It is not about stopping masturbation or sex before climaxing. It's about a higher, deeper kind of climax unknown to most men that requires a lot of devotion, practice, concentration and, yeah, meditation even to learn.

    The microcosmic orbit meditation is a preparation for learning this and it does involve sexual energy, but not masturbation. You don't move, nor do you touch yourself, nor do you fantasize. I think this meditation can be used in a non-sexual context as well. If you do techniques where you touch yourself, I wouldn't call it masturbation nor edging as it's not about getting aroused, escaping from the world or any sort of self-indulgence. It's still a meditative practice which requires a lot of seriousness and focus.
     
  16. Sakhi

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    But in 1950 the medicine was not that much backwarded not to have identified the harms of smoking.. how could have that been possible?
     
  17. It wasn't something that was taken seriously or studied very much. It's the same now, science could very well prove the negatives of PMO time and time again, but only a handful of researchers have taken the time to do any study into it, so there isn't much discussion of it. So the amount of studies into it is minimal, and the amount of attention it is getting is still relatively small. Plus matters are further complicated by the fact that many of the same folks who oppose porn etc do so merely for moral or social reasons and so immediately any attempt to look at its dangers is just seen as "Oh it's those people who thought we should ban alcohol doing their thing again with porn".

    There were people as early as the 1600's talking about the dangers of smoking tobacco, and some doctors and scientists as early as the 1700's who acknowledged the dangers.. and yet it wasn't until 1964 when enough evidence had been gathered to convince governments to start cracking down on its advertising, and start putting warning labels on cigarette packaging etc.
     
  18. Thug Life

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    I know a guy who knows a guy who can get you microcosmic orbit for $15 a hit.
     
  19. Sakhi

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    Do u think that works well with the body??
     
  20. Solidium

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    That's 100% fake dude.
     

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