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Can the unborn be under the wrath of God?

For Fapstronauts of the Protestant Christian faith.

  1. Jan 5, 2021 #1
    Mr. McMarty

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    Wow what a crazy statement!!! Technically according to the bible we ALL are afflicted with original sin from Adam and Eve. Is there a Baby Heaven for all babes or the unborn who have never sined? Are we ever not guilty of sin?
     
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  2. Jan 5, 2021 #2
    soldier_of_ephesus

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    Certainly not. Even a young infant has no accountability for their own sin. They do not even grasp the concept of it.

    I think the death of King David's first born of Bathsheba can attest to that. Now contrast that to Absolam's death.
     
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    Mr. McMarty

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    Psalm 51:5 is often used to defend the idea that humans are sinners before they are born.

    Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me (Psalm 51:5)
     
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  4. Jan 5, 2021 #4
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    we are born into sin because of the fall of Adam.
     
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  5. Jan 5, 2021 #5
    soldier_of_ephesus

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    So what does that have to do with their final destination?
     
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  6. Jan 6, 2021 #6
    Mr. McMarty

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    if we are guilty of sin from conception then we are under God's wrath from conception and in need of a savior from the time of conception. But how can one accept Jesus as savior before being born?
     
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    Mr. McMarty

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    Thank you brother for taking an interest in talking to me about this BTW
     
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  8. Jan 12, 2021 #8
    soldier_of_ephesus

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    It can't be more obvious to me. David's child died and he's not mourning anymore. He will go meet him with the Lord in heaven.

    2 Samuel 12:23 (ESV): But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.”

    Compare that to his reaction of Absolam's death. David knew that son's fate was hell.

    2 Samuel 18:33 (ESV): And as he went, he said, “O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! Would I had died instead of you, O Absalom, my son, my son!”
     
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