Can we talk about productivity benefits? Attention deficits, etc...

I'm already feeling the benefits at day 18. Your mileage may vary...but 90days should do.

 

Look into Pranayama breathing techs for speeding up the rewiring process, drink milk, eat fruit, and don't watch porn at all.
Pranayama was key for me, im 100% rewired and feel like a new man. I've since been able to quit weed, and now ive limited my food intake a lot so my brain is running at a much higher level.

I also know quite a bit about the semen being detrimental to loose for men, it ruins your memory, willpower, harms the nervous system and immune system. I noticed better skin, clearer eyes, stronger, calmer, more confident and content being alone, more focus and motivation, better dreams and sleep, need less food, less recovery times from working out, and a lot more energy. I suggest never spilling the seed but that's not in everyone's playbook.
Since Nofap Ive become a brahmacharya. Loving life to the fullest!
Peace

 

I've always wondered citratox, you advocate how semen loss is so detrimental and so on, and I do partially agree, but medical sciences explain that excess semen that is unused, is disposed of by the body one way or another. For exmaple when a man goes pee, some semen will mix in and is discarded in that fashion, and even more, through wet dreams. Now these are the natural courses of action the body will take to rid of old, unused sperm, to make room for new, maturing sperm. In my opinion, I think the accompanying orgasm is what causes all the trouble, and not the semen, as old semen is disposed of either way. Just wondering what your ideas are on this.

 

I will answer your question even though it seems like you refuse to believe anything that doesn't come out of a western doctors mouth anyways.

I stated to make sure that you do not watch pornography. This is key. You are absolutely correct about the body getting rid of excess semen, but the key is to keep the body from creating excess semen in the first place.
Excess semen is only created because of your sexual fantasies and lustful desires. If your thoughts are sexual in nature, your body sends prana (energy) to your genital regions and triggers an increase in spermatozoa consisting of fluids from secretions of the testes, seminal vesicles, prostate, and bulbourethral glands. This mixture cannot be re-absorbed, it must go out. The energy would/could have been spent else where but has now been worked into creating this mixture.
When sexual thoughts and desires are subdued the body slows and stabilizes its sperm production, so when you are 100% rebooted and you go for a long period of time without ejaculation your body creates very little semen as of which is transmuted or sublimated and goes towards other bodily roles/functions.
The UPWARD Nadi channels and pathways (micro-cosmic orbit) that are responsible for transporting and transmuting the un-mixed seminal energies are mostly blocked when your constantly spilling it DOWNWARD and out through orgasm. The slow release and transmutation with Nadi's OPEN transport small amounts over time to the lower dantien, where it radiates like the sun inside of you eventually. More energy is produced for spirituality, martial arts, internal energy work, healing, and great health, etc.
Lets put it this way- semen gets into the ‘ejaculatory mode’ when man reacts to stimuli with desire. and then is has to be expelled one way or another. The trick is not letting it get into "ejaculatory mode".

The human body is the "tree of life". The spinal cord is like an upturned tree with mans hair as its roots, and afferent and efferent nerves as branches. The tree of the nervous system bears many enjoyable fruits, or sensations of sight, sound, smell, taste and touch. The apple in the center is the orgasm and is the key to the whole tree being either lit up like a Christmas tree, or dead like a burnt stump from ejaculation.
You don't have to believe a word that I say Beauty, I could care less. This is very ancient knowledge and is not taught yet in main-stream science, but it will be. It surely will be my friend.
Take care.

 

Of course I aim to believe everything you say citratox! I'm just torn because at times, some of your ideas do not logically add up. For example when you say "excess semen" being created because of lustful desires. This is untrue because being aroused does not create more sperm, it simply moves the sperm already present to get ready for ejaculation, like you said. Men create thousands of sperm every second, aroused or not. Lustful thoughts or not. And this sperm adds up over time, and eventually needs to be released one way or another.

But what I found interesting about one specific idea is that when a man is fully rebooted, the body creates less sperm, and that minute amount of sperm which becomes unused, is absorbed back into the body. Correct?

I don't know if there is any scientific evidence that could possibly prove that when a man does not ejaculate, or becomes, in our sense, "rebooted", he creates less sperm. Young men and adolescents are creating thousands of sperm per second, if they are sexually active or not. If they think lustful thoughts or not. This is why adolescents have numerous wet dreams.

However I do understand the underlying essence of your post. I wish to achieve the state in which my body creates less sperm, and uses the sperm for energy instead of getting rid of it. Not sure when I'll be able to achieve this though. Do you have any suggestions? Cheers

 

Its all about energy. We only have so much bio-energy available. When your body uses large amounts of energy in digesting food, it is taken away from energy spent on the brain.
I will never spill my seed again. No sex either.
The vibe your getting is just from me probably. Most people here think just like you do.
Good luck on your path

 

I mostly agree with citratox. It's ancient knowledge and it's for hardcore hardmode only.

 

Excess sperm is sometimes wasted by the body, but that is an 'accident' it is not a beneficial process. And the sperm that is sometimes flushed out with urine is not of true seminal character, it's not sperm cells, it's not life force.

 

Hey guys
A lot of bro science going down here. I have been trying to find reliable information about the workings of the human male reproductive system to understand the link between semen production and sexual stimulation. I do know that there are about 4 organs that contribute material to the constituent product called semen, which is expelled during ejaculation.
I am a yogi. I believe in a lot of the same things that "citratox" lays out here. I am practicing my form of brahmacharya, control of sensual impulses. The word that I follow is control, it does not mean abolition. I am in a monogamous relationship, I am now an occasional masturbator. I avoid all kinds of sexual stimulation. I only act out sexually now, when my body and mind arrive at the appropriate event. This, I believe, is responsible healthy sexuality.
So can anyone stear me to a factual resource that explains the hard science of semen.
"Citratox", I will discuss prana and kundalini with you in a separate forum.

 

Right on, I would totally limit my food intake if I wasn't an athlete. I don't compete or anything, I'm just a hardcore vegan athlete. I eat anywhere from 3500-6000 calories in a given day. Mostly organic and non-gmo food. Think Frank Medrano style training.

Meditation. Exercise. Limiting screen time. Spending time outdoors in nature. These are the best tools/choices for harnessing productivity and attention benefits.

 

Haha that's really funny man, I learned of Frank Medrano yesterday and found him amazing! I am vegetarian in the fact that I drink a cup of hot spiced milk in the morning but after watching franks video and also Jim Morris, Im sold on giving up all dairy (except for Ghee) and going pretty much vegan. I don't do eggs already so this will be an easy transition for me.

I also take back my comment about never again wanting to have sex. Ive learned that I can have sex but must completely learn how to control it, as in not releasing semen ever. The Taoists have it figured out!

I have been eating pretty heavily myself also lately and the wet dreams have finally resided! I think it was the 90 day marker that I hear greatly reduces the occurrence if not completely stopping them. .

Here is the thread that I found last night!
http://wisemenmovement.org/forum/index.php?topic=802.0

and the videos -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvsGXuyYgv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTniEYdetY

Frank- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvJHw64fxgQ

Good stuff man, Im so intrigued by Frank and his lifestyle!

 

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

I'm a mochi, a little different than a pierogi or baklava, and I'm abstaining from PMO for 90-days.

My sexual energy comes and goes. It's like a river that sometimes flows backwards and forms a whirl pool. I'm on a kayak and have to always take steps to avoid it. Part of me wants to give up and sink in to the whirl pool. I know that once I enter it will be harder and harder to get out. Each one stalls me in my journey to get down this river.

Onward I paddle!

- VM

 

This is the weirdest thread ever.

 

Why would you make an exception for ghee citratox?

 

Because it is very pure and I cannot give up my morning Chyawanprash! It contains ghee, and their are many benefits from ghee that I want. It is a great digestive aid, great for memory, for lubricating your joints, great for the eyes, empowers your herbs and spices, helps with allergies, and its great for brain and balance of mind. It also helps with weight gain, and I don't want to loose any more weight since I have already lost enough being a vegetarian!
Cheers

 

What on earth is Chyawanprash?! I have heard of chai tea, but this sounds extraordinary. I must look into this, perhaps it will help me get over coffee and energy drinks!

I admire Frank for sure. Although I'm more of a traditionalist/orthodox type person, and so I see alot of flaws and room for improvement in his workouts, from a traditional gymnast's perspective. But he sure is motivating to people, his videos are always awesome, so excellently produced & edited! I also am into traditional Chinese Martial Arts, and although I like to do alot of anaerobic & strength training, you simply can not expect to train that way into your later years. That kind of training is for when you are younger. Tai Chi, Qi Gong, and even Kung Fu can be practiced well into old age. And so my fitness regimen is incredibly broadminded.

You must tell us more about Chyawanprash!

I've dropped this link around the forum somewhere before, but beauty if you want to read about semen loss I highly recommend you take a look at the site semenloss.info. A ton of good info there.

 

That semenloss.info link contains lots of stuff from men of science and medicine dating all the way back to Hippocrates!

I'm a man of science myself. Although I'm very much aware of the current limitations of science, and realize that there is alot going on beyond our ordinary awareness that current day lab wizards simply are unable to grasp.

For instance, no scientist can claim they know the entire hidden workings of the universe (not to speak of multiverse and infinitude theories!) And highly esteemed physicists will surely agree with this! That's not to say they won't possibly grasp it one day in the future.