cant stop relapsing, you should never relapse need urgent help

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fluets_2, Mar 11, 2020.

  1. qwertyy

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    If you're like me, urges way too strong/ can't think about anything else than sex whole days it's just torture, almost impossible . Stop putting yourself down sexual urges are natural and try easy mode, most people here will say its bad but just my experience to help you ,

    never watch porn again and MO once when you can't resist anymore(for me its like every 3-7 days), without artifical stimuli.

    You will have benefits, maybe less than hard mode but a lot less stress and way easier to do, don't MO multiple times in a row and don't do it in the morning or you will feel like shit all day, best for me is doing once before sleep and move on with my life, then i can think about something else than sex and fantasizing all day its pretty good
     
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  2. Fluets_2

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    So its actually a way to lessen the usage of porn, i see.

    I've been thinking about the hole no PMO, Porn - Masturbation - Orgasm.. MO is quite natural and normal but when you add the P to it, it becomes unnatural and artificial.

    Thing is i've done that in the past, i am starting to think i am not in such a terrible situation and just need to stop bickering with myself and accept the fact i've relapsed and i can control this, just gotta decide to do so and right now am half way in and half way out... Something inside me is attached to porn becomes it remedies my anxiety, depression and other negative feeling states that i just want to escape from.

    Its my drug, i never smoked or did drugs and i never will, ever. But i use porn in a way that effects my life probably worse than any drug addict.. Thats HOW I BELIEVE IT IS... and now when i look at it... EHH i kinda lessened my porn usage over the past 4 years tremendously, so looking back - the only way now forward is to just keep swimming ha?

     
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  3. You are not alone in this, and at least you display a good understanding of the complexities of this problem. There are absolutely no easy answers and everyone is a bit different. I have had a rough going recently too, no doubt partially due to being at home all the time. But don't wallow in bad feelings or shame. Completely useless emotions. However, you might get a bit angry at yourself. Sometimes, when I am by myself, I will say, "Fuck you, porn!" And I will say it a lot. It has helped me. I also contrast that with some mindfulness. Finally, sometimes I look at the clock and say, "It's 3:15. Can I get to 3:30 without watching porn?" And I continue as needed.
    But whatever you do, do not quit trying. At any rate, you are probably watching less porn than before.
     
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  4. MrYang29

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    First thing first. you should pray in the name of Jesus.
    secondly. focus on your work, when you focus on that life purpose. the lust has less chance to enter. and even though they enter you should observe it and let it be there for a moment, don't react at it. and it will go.

    the more you try to think to not masturbate, you're more likely to fail. it's all about changing our thought and focus.

    and you're married, right? instead of fapping to porn why don't you making love with your love ones?
     
  5. The way I am

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    Well, this state of mind is not very far away from which I was in the last day and honestly the last four years since I have been aware of that I was addicted but here is the vicious cycle that any heavy pornography addict is involved in, there cannot be any complaints bro, I am not saying should not be, cannot be!!

    The main reason that we are not aware what we are missing at this point, maybe this battle against pornography will take a lifetime and probably it will even if you are off porn, your addicted mind will always crave plus we have this instict and lust innate. We cannot fight, we cannot defend, we can only change the way we see...

    You know, what you are doing is actually like constantly hitting hard the wall even if you see this is nonsense. Another mindset needed
     
  6. Fluets_2

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    You god dang right, where we are today is far better than where we started thank you for those kind words!
     
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  7. Fluets_2

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    I over focused on my work, it doesn't pay off. I neglected my thesis and research for work tasks, we make out quite a lot but cant have sex atm and its okay (she's still recovering from the delivery) we have lots of intimate moments, that's whats weird. I never had ED except maybe once cause i fapped 3 times before sex.. But other than that high sex drive! crazy eh

    I tried reading the bible before (in English) and the Torah (in Hebrew) and am sorry both of those religious scriptures just seemed so lame to me, i even tried watching those tv programs with the professional christians, muslims and Jews that milks all of the audience money, it just didn't speak to me, it seemed like.. Like how i would use Windows 95 today with windows 10, its just didn't click.

    The only religious book that ever made me feel anything was the Koran, and it blew me away, i read it because i wanted find contradictions in it to prove my friend is a jackass for believing in it.. Well that book spook to me on so many levels and i became a devout muslim for like a few months.. Till i realized i can't follow any of these stupid religions with their existing stupid followers of dipshits people.

    Honestly, whats the problem? why cant god just send a real legit angel or a prophet? why do i have to pretend to believe or pretend its all important metaphors.. If god came and drowned the Egyptians as they chased the jews, and helped Jesus Christ raise the dead, heal the blind and turn water into wine (and according to the Koran, speak fluently as an infant).. Was it all just elaborate Alien CGI that tricked primitive humans or true miracles or supernatural powers?

    Just makes me reiterate my points before. God is a disappointment and the moment you depend on him he just lets you down.
     
  8. Fluets_2

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    Perhaps. Its an endless battle and am starting to think Alexander is full of shit with his counter.. Am a conspiracy theorist and i think Alexander probably relapses all the time and just tricks us into believing we can fight off porn.. NAHH just kidding.. Porn companies are vile garbage that need to be eradicated from this planet. They poisoned our minds and clouded our views and perciption of sexuality.

    Shit needs to go and you are right, a new perspective is needed
     
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  10. MrYang29

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    Bro, i feel you, i understand what you think about Christian pastor that you watch on tv, and why they milking the congregation money, few prophets in the bible already prophecy that event. when the shepherd does not care about the sheep, and use them for his own benefits.

    GOD already sent many prophets bro, and Jesus is the last prophets. now we don't have prophets, but the teaching from 12 great disciples of Jesus is truth, and the teaching stays still until this day. we just need to find it.

    Alien CGI? alien is limited beings. and GOD is almighty and omnipotent.

    And if you ask what is the prove the bible words are real. the answer is simple, just see all the prophecy, they occur, regardless of metaphor or direct speech.they're all happen. that's mean bible GOD is real.

    may i know why you think the bible scriptures are so lame? in my opinion, there's a lot of wisdom there.

    I pray the best for your journey brah.
     
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  11. goodnice 3.0

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    probably a few reasons i’m guessing
    -because he hasn’t read much of the new testament
    - some of the verses he does know, are taken wildly out of context so he has formed false or misguided beliefs about the bible. For example, he thinks the bible supports slavery, which i’ve seen many atheists erroneously claim
    - He has read a lot of the old testament which understandably seems much harsher than the new testament, but the old testament represents the way things would be without a savior to blot out our sins. Jesus, eliminated the old way of things
    - God has not opened his eyes. Some people even if they read the whole bible just don’t get it or take in much meaning. That was me when i initially read some random parts from the bible before i was radically changed. The bible initially seemed to make no sense. God shuts the eyes or closes their minds so that they don’t see

    But fluets, try reading the new testament, any of chapters Matthew Mark luke John Romans

    Try it again and maybe you will have a new perspective
     
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  12. Fluets_2

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    None of you said are relevant to me because i don't care about copy pasting points from some where on the internet.. I read every chapter you mentioned, it just doesn't connect with me. I am very practical, that's all.

    They say when you witness a work of art you don't think of the artist.. That's how i see the world - you see the creation but can't see the creator (god or whatever you wanna use the term to describe him) and its a big universe. I truly want to believe - there is nothing wrong with finding spiritual relief.. And i kinda found mine in meditation i just forgot about it.
     
  13. goodnice 3.0

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    When you see a great work of art, you want to know who did it, so you can credit the artist. If you witness the work of art, you know some one made that art

    In the same way, if you see the sky, nature, the moon, the sun, the way our bodies function to keep us alive, you know that someone must have made all of this.

    So what you said disproves the big bang theory that something came out of nothing. It also acknowledges that someone must have created the universe: God
     
  14. domsi

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    the big bang theory is the christian explanation my friend. it is the theory of a roman catholic monk and maths and physics professor, and pope pius xii declared that there is no conflict between it and the christian theory of creation.
     

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