Casual sex is as bad as porn

Is it impossible for you to be lawful because you will go to jail if you commit a crime? No, its just incentive. Besides, its not just Christians who are threatened with eternal damnation, its everybody (non Christians may not believe this, but is doesn't matter). We have this principle in Christianity called forgiveness, in which, if you confess your sins to God and repent, you are forgiven. There is no "three strikes and you are out" thing. Also, you forgot the positive aspect. Might I not as well say, "it is impossible for Christians NOT to be moral since they have the gift of eternal salvation given them"? Positive or negative, the incentive doesn't matter, its the actions that count. We are just as capable of immorality as any other religion/nonreligion, we simply have motivation to behave.

"Secular ethics are actually pretty straight forward. If an action is a violation of the non aggression principle, it is immoral."

This is somewhat a failure of an argument. Where did the non aggression principle (nap) originate? Without religion there would be no law or morals. Religion is essential to developing a social morality code. You secular people didn't come up with the NAP on your own, it is based on the morality of religion.

 

fair enough, I mainly meant the kind of lust that goes with pmo

 

sex is not a form of masturbation, masturbation is its own form, sex is sex, but after having sex it well heighten your sexual energy so you better hope that person is still there the next day to be there for you an the next an next, cause you well have higher sexual energy then you were use to causing instant pmo relapse ,but i find different sex partners have different chemistries an energies, im still documenting it,

 

poeple have a bad habit of putting a negative spin on natural things just cause they had a bad experience with it, calling lust sinful an bad is like banning fire cause it burnt your delicate fingers, if it werent for lust there would be zero people on earth

 

my point is without religion the world would be completely different, if we have no one to answer to and there is nothing that holds us accountable, than there is no telling what would happen, i like to think i am a good person, but if i didnt have a love for God or biblical morals, and the knowledge of what i do will come back to me, than there is no telling what type of person i would be in that situation, because humans are creatures of sin, and without Gods grace we would be a lawless world full of unchained depravity.

 

lust is sin, the bible says, But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. Lust is only acceptable when it is directed twords your wife, for marriage under God is sacred.

 

everything goes back to religion

 

you always have a choice to be good or bad. God teaches us what morals are, without his teaching there would be no right from wrong, just humans doing whatever they please, because they know they have no consequences without God in the picture, without God in my life there is no telling what unspeakable things i might have done, i am just as good of a person as anyone else, but without biblical consequences and Wanting to please God, than no one would be good, we would all be savages doing whatever the hell we want. Without God i would keep looking at porn, i would give into every sexual desire i have no matter how nasty it is, but i am a christian and i know that if i am to follow God i must cast those sinful desires away and follow him, i am not perfect but i am doing my best for Jesus. If we have no one telling us right from wrong than how could we possibly know what is and isnt good or bad?.

 

I wouldn't call marriage bliss as well if I were you. In decades past, people kept married because of religious pressure and were often extremely unhappy about it. Nowadays, whole jurisdictions thrive on divorce rulings and settlements. But by all means, wait 30 years being a virgin, marry someone who you think is right but in the end turns out to be the wicked witch of the west and stay married until death because of eternal damnation otherwise.

Personally, I'd still go for the option to love someone in every way someone can be loved and, if things don't work out in the end for whatever reason, be able to each go their own way to find happiness in life.

 

god an religion are completely different things, religion is mans creation while god , just is ,the english language contains incantations an spells. if one was to base theyre whole life on the bible id be more carefull id learn the latin langauge an read from the original latin scriptures the bible originates, if you want to dabble with words such as sins youd know lazyness an loathing is a sin also an your committing it now by not memorizing the whole bible an learning the latin langauge to transcipt for yourself an family so lets put the silly words such as sin away for now its a dangerous word

 

this life isnt about fucking all the time, if you never get married and die a virgin than that sucks but heaven is the end goal, life is so temporary.

 

No choice? We chose to be Christians, there is no coercion. And not only that, but we can sin just like any other people. We are not being forced into anything. Everything we do is our choice. That is universally true (discounting physical force). At some point we were not Christians, and then chose to be.

That is irrelevant. Try to stop seeing it as an if-then situation. It is our choice wether to sin or not, and wether we get damned or not has nothing to do with morality by itself, but instead has to do with how we treat it. I get your point, but I disagree because of: A, we chose Christianity. B, even as Christians we can choose to sin. C, no one is forcing us one way or another. Threat (both+and-)≠force.

That is a false cause. Crime has to do mainly with economy, not religion (I don't care what some atheist study "proves"), not counting religions where crime is encouraged, and Christianity is not one of those. Particularly a religion where peace is encouraged, there are millions of Christian programs that aim to reduce poverty/crime. I'd also like to point out that historically the Christians were the victims, not the aggressors.

Well now, where did you get that idea? It would seem to me that the nap is more of a rule explaining an already existing code of morality. Surely there was morality before the nap was ever dreamed of. The nap is just a rule explaining the morality of religion, minus a few points and God. Every morality goes back to religion. The very concept "morality" would not exist if not for religion.

Yes, it was. When you disabled your computer. You willed yourself not to watch porn, the means don't matter.

We aren't doing this and God didn't remove any option. Its all about willpower.

no worries brother.

 

your joking right?, not memorizing the whole bible is a sin, thats like saying not memorizing a dictionary is a sin, or not memorizing every single school book, not learning every mathematical formula known to man, not learning every language ever invented, see how stupid that logic is?, but i guess common sense doesnt apply to everyone.

 

*cough* crusades *cough* RC indulgence *cough* inquisition *cough*

Sorry, got a nasty cough...

 

crime has to do with humans in general, it has nothing to do with poverty or religion, its about people doing what they want. Like i didnt use to smoke weed because of religion or poverty, i did it because i wanted to even tho its illegal.

 

Stop being silly! Do you really think I'd be on this site on this site if I wanted to avoid unpleasant practices? Hey! Rebooting might be easy and pleasant for you but it's not for me! I'd say quitting porn is a lot harder than saving your self for marriage! And again I'm not opposed to saving oneself for marriage, it's no big deal. I'm just against a simplistic, uneducated approach to scripture. Are you really satisfied with your knowledge of the Roman empire and Roman sexual ethics?

 

The Crusades were evil and a failure in obeying the greatest commandment but to say it has nothing to do with ridiculous! The church thought it up! Anyone who studies this subject knows this. People were giving religious incentives to take part in them. The Crusades were rather complicated but one thing that isn't complicated is the part religion played in it!