Chaser effect

Oden14

Fapstronaut
Is it alright to MO (without P) during the chaser effect to just get away with it?
I had the chaser effect and I MOd thinking it would just make my NoFap journey even harder, and the chaser effect rarely happens again right after it has already happened.
 
Well you aren’t breaking any laws... You aren’t doing anything morally corrupt.... it’s up to you to decide what’s acceptable and what isn’t. I have a feeling that you know what you did was wrong in regards to quitting masturbation, but you can always do better next time.
 
If you're attempting to abstain from porn and masturbation, then intentional indulegence in either activity is a relapse. Since you masturbated, you've relapsed.
 
I am trying the same method since I am doing ok for two days staying away from porn but I need masturbation.
 
@LiquidShoes I know I relapsed on MO, but in my opinion is was a strategic move to remove the chaser effect and start again without it

True abstaining is the ability to resist all urges caused by all triggers. Be it wet dreams, the chaser effect, the internet, unsatifying sex, anything. It was not strategic.

Don't listen to the above. Nobody "needs" masturbation in the slightest.
 
True abstaining is the ability to resist all urges caused by all triggers. Be it wet dreams, the chaser effect, the internet, unsatifying sex, anything. It was not strategic.

Don't listen to the above. Nobody "needs" masturbation in the slightest.
I wouldn't count wet dreams towards abstaining unless maybe you're having them every night. I'm not able to wake myself up when that happens unless the dream is extremely vivid or I'm semi lucid and I realise.
 
I wouldn't count wet dreams towards abstaining unless maybe you're having them every night. I'm not able to wake myself up when that happens unless the dream is extremely vivid or I'm semi lucid and I realise.

I meant urges you get after a wet dream. Say, for example, you were having a sexual dream, but you didn't orgasm or you orgasmed slightly. After you wake up and you're fully aware, you might recieve an urge afterwards to finish yourself off.

Just like how you could be going about your day and suddenly, you're struck with an urge. Getting a full-blown orgasm from a wet dream, I agree, isn't a relapse. But intentionally relapsing after getting one, I say is a relapse.
 
I meant urges you get after a wet dream. Say, for example, you were having a sexual dream, but you didn't orgasm or you orgasmed slightly. After you wake up and you're fully aware, you might recieve an urge afterwards to finish yourself off.

Just like how you could be going about your day and suddenly, you're struck with an urge. Getting a full-blown orgasm from a wet dream, I agree, isn't a relapse. But intentionally relapsing after getting one, I say is a relapse.
Oh okay, sorry mate I read that wrong. Urges after wet dreams or just after waking for that matter suck, I find them harder to deal with over the random ones through out the day.

But yeah, that would definitely count if you purposely did it afterwards.
 
I meant urges you get after a wet dream. Say, for example, you were having a sexual dream, but you didn't orgasm or you orgasmed slightly. After you wake up and you're fully aware, you might recieve an urge afterwards to finish yourself off.

Just like how you could be going about your day and suddenly, you're struck with an urge. Getting a full-blown orgasm from a wet dream, I agree, isn't a relapse. But intentionally relapsing after getting one, I say is a relapse.

Oh okay, sorry mate I read that wrong. Urges after wet dreams or just after waking for that matter suck, I find them harder to deal with over the random ones through out the day.

But yeah, that would definitely count if you purposely did it afterwards.
I remember last week Monday morning I woke up quite early and studied for some time and again went for a sleep. I had lucid dream of a female unnecessarily trying to make me cum in some sort of kingdom. And suddenly I was fighting some enemy as a soldier. I was happy I didn't had a wet dream but after I woke up I felt shitty. So, one has to accept the realty and move, as these things are temporary and you won't like to disturb your decent streak by intentionally relapsing.
 
I remember last week Monday morning I woke up quite early and studied for some time and again went for a sleep. I had lucid dream of a female unnecessarily trying to make me cum in some sort of kingdom. And suddenly I was fighting some enemy as a soldier. I was happy I didn't had a wet dream but after I woke up I felt shitty. So, one has to accept the realty and move, as these things are temporary and you won't like to disturb your decent streak by intentionally relapsing.

Yep, I hear you. Wet dreams can certainly feel like a relapse since afterwards, you get the usual feelings you receive when you've finished a session of PMO.

I guess I never really understood why people worry they should reset their counter when they get a wet dream until I experienced it myself. It certainly feels like a blow to the streak.
 
@Oden14 As stupid as it sounds, I think you are correct. I too noticed that the only way to get rid of the chaser effect after a porn binge was to MO once and then that would let me start a 'free' streak.
 
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